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People who drive 40 everywhere

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PeRiO · 23/04/2024 18:26

Sorry this subject has probably been done to death but I let it really annoy me today so just want to get it off my chest 🤣
AIBU to be annoyed at people who drive 40mph everywhere? Following a car home today, I live in a small village of which the road to it varies between 30/60. It isn't a bad road, fairly straight on the 60 bits but I appreciate 60 isn't a target speed but it riles me up when said car is happy to speed in the 30 bits but not willing to go a little faster in the 60 bits.

Anyone else?

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BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 10:06

There are roads round here that are NSL (because that’s the default) where driving anywhere close to 60 would be suicidal. Just because a road doesn’t have a lower speed limit doesn’t mean it’s safe to drive faster.

HappiestSleeping · 24/04/2024 10:07

PeRiO · 23/04/2024 20:26

I think that's what annoys me most the fact they clearly aren't aware of the speed limit signs at all if they're not speeding up and slowing down appropriately.
I had a school event to attend, I left work with as much time as I possibly could so was just bad timing that it really irritated me today. I feel better for getting it off my chest though 😆

I think it's only you and me who are able to drive properly, and I'm not even sure about you sometimes 🤣🤣🤣

Shade17 · 24/04/2024 10:07

VikingLady · 24/04/2024 09:40

@Shade17 I do. I even texted my old instructor to ask if I was doing something wrong when I first got the car. He laughed and said it's just the car, and I'd have to live with it. I change gears a lot compared to other drivers I know - you have to in a rollerskate, but it just has no oomph. It wasn't a problem in the 1.4 courtesy car.

But I know it and allow for it where I can.

Strange, even the slowest small cars I’ve driven can manage more than 40mph up a motorway slip road if you accelerate hard through the gears.

Misthios · 24/04/2024 10:08

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 10:06

There are roads round here that are NSL (because that’s the default) where driving anywhere close to 60 would be suicidal. Just because a road doesn’t have a lower speed limit doesn’t mean it’s safe to drive faster.

Everyone knows that. It's obvious. Today is bright, sunny, dry and warm. Would I drive the same way today as I would on a dark, wet and icy day in January? Of course not. Most drivers have common sense and drive to the conditions.

This whole thread is about drivers who do NOT adjust their driving speed to the conditions or speed limits, but just have 35-38 mph as their default setting.

Fairysteps11 · 24/04/2024 10:10

Misthios · 24/04/2024 09:55

If you're too nervous to drive - don't.
If you look in your mirrors and there is a big stream of traffic behind you and it's clear infront of you, you are holding up the flow of traffic. Pull in, or better yet, don't drive.

Agree with all of that. But the nervous and/or slow drivers don't do this. They huff and puff and come out with things like why is everyone in such a rush, boy racers, it's a limit not a target, THEY are the safe drivers, everyone else has the problem, it's impatient drivers who cause the accidents, nobody is so important they can't be 5 minutes later and so on.

Nobody ever just owns it and admits they're a crap driver.

It astounds me as 40mph isn't even an unmanageable speed 🙄 they're not having to drift round corners, burning rubber and leaning on two wheels. It's a straight road with a few large wide bends (that can easily be taken at 60mph, that was the previous limit for the road). My 20 minute journey can take 35 minutes in the morning. I dread it!

Fairysteps11 · 24/04/2024 10:14

Redherringgull · 24/04/2024 10:02

If you look in your mirrors and there is a big stream of traffic behind you and it's clear in front of you, you are holding up the flow of traffic. Pull in.

In a few US states this is 'unlawful'. In Idaho at least, if there are three cars being held up behind you, you must pull in to let them pass.

It's easier for everyone if you drive a little faster though. If there's a bend in the road, then slow down for that by all means, but otherwise step on that accelerator of yours.

Absolutely agree!!!!

Soigneur · 24/04/2024 10:22

Bobbotgegrinch · 23/04/2024 22:46

It entirely depends on the road. There's plenty of tiny little country lanes that are national speed limit, but you'd have to be an absolute nutter to do 40 on them, let alone 60.

Like this one - https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5915376,-4.0687904,3a,75y,110.43h,88.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9Ok_6pFwhxTwKz9nwGoWAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

You drive to the conditions of the road. If its narrow or winding, you slow down. If it's pissing down, or visibility is bad, or unlit, you slow down.

You might fail your test for driving significantly under the limit when there's no reason to, but it's perfectly legal and even desirable in lots of situations.

Oh, that's nothing, this is a 60mph limit road near me, note the sign helpfully saying "Unsuitable for motor vehicles beyond this point" right before the national speed limit sign.

People who drive 40 everywhere
Bobbotgegrinch · 24/04/2024 10:24

Soigneur · 24/04/2024 10:22

Oh, that's nothing, this is a 60mph limit road near me, note the sign helpfully saying "Unsuitable for motor vehicles beyond this point" right before the national speed limit sign.

Haha, oh that is fantastic!

Teddleshon · 24/04/2024 10:27

This drives me insane but the worst part for me is not the 40 in the 60 zone (although that can be infuriating) but the 40 in the 30 zone. I just can’t stand people driving past playgrounds in villages etc at that speed.

Soigneur · 24/04/2024 10:28

Oh, and this one, I would have loved to know what the Google maps car driver was thinking when driving up here.

People who drive 40 everywhere
Ladyj84 · 24/04/2024 10:33

My 2 bugs are drivers doing 30 all the way where we are and people who do not use dual and motorway lanes correctly

RampantIvy · 24/04/2024 11:24

VikingLady · 24/04/2024 09:08

Some of us have cars that take a really, really long time to speed up. I have a 1.2 and there are motorway slip roads I just can't/wont take because it's literally not possible to get up above 40 in my car by the time I hit the motorway. I had no idea of the limitations of a tiny car full of heavy people!

(In the same vein, I can only overtake on motorways on the flat or downhill - seriously. So I allow for that and just don't do it!)

Many years ago the local police offered free driving courses, so I duly went along to see if I could unlearn some bad habits. At the time we lived near a dual carriageway with a sliproad to join it.

I wasn't driving fast enough and the policeman told me that you should always join a dual carriageway or motorway at the same spred as the traffic on the inside lane. He said it was much safer to brake than to try and speed up.

It sounds like you are changing gear too early.

Allfur · 24/04/2024 11:36

Unless you're performing emergency brain surgery, you could just chill out and accept that's the nature of driving on over crowded roads, getting so impatient and angry is dangerous

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 11:39

All sliproads aren’t equal. I regularly use a very short one with very poor visibility - essentially you can’t see a thing until you’re virtually on the road. It’s a road heavily used by huge lorries. Basically you have to stop completely nine times out of ten or you’d get totalled.

YoureAGoodManArthurMorgan · 24/04/2024 11:44

Allfur · 24/04/2024 11:36

Unless you're performing emergency brain surgery, you could just chill out and accept that's the nature of driving on over crowded roads, getting so impatient and angry is dangerous

I agree with you that getting angry when driving is dangerous. It's natural to get frustrated by bad driving, but actual anger has no place on the road.

That said, I find driving at a speed you fancy, not making effective progress, and then saying everyone else should chill out about it shows an arrogance that shouldn't be on the road either.

taxguru · 24/04/2024 11:49

Soigneur · 24/04/2024 10:22

Oh, that's nothing, this is a 60mph limit road near me, note the sign helpfully saying "Unsuitable for motor vehicles beyond this point" right before the national speed limit sign.

But that's because there'll be a 30/40/50 restriction sign on the other side of the pole. ALL restricted roads must have a restriction sign on ALL side roads leading onto it, so where that happens they have to put another sign on the pole facing the other way to show the restriction/NSL. You make it look like someone has purposely decided that road is "fit" for NLS, whereas it's a consequence of imposing a restriction on the main road right behind the photography.

taxguru · 24/04/2024 11:55

BIossomtoes · 24/04/2024 11:39

All sliproads aren’t equal. I regularly use a very short one with very poor visibility - essentially you can’t see a thing until you’re virtually on the road. It’s a road heavily used by huge lorries. Basically you have to stop completely nine times out of ten or you’d get totalled.

Is the dashed line at the end of the slip road a single line or a double line of dashes? There's a difference, that lots of people don't understand/notice the difference. On motorways it's a single dashed line as it is on some dual carriageways. At junctions on other dual carriageways it's a double dashed line which means "Give Way" so stopping is actually usually the right thing to do if the major road is busy when there's a doubled dashed line as that means give way just as it would at a normal road junction where you stop and wait for a space on the main road.

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/04/2024 11:55

Bobbotgegrinch · 23/04/2024 22:46

It entirely depends on the road. There's plenty of tiny little country lanes that are national speed limit, but you'd have to be an absolute nutter to do 40 on them, let alone 60.

Like this one - https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5915376,-4.0687904,3a,75y,110.43h,88.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9Ok_6pFwhxTwKz9nwGoWAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

You drive to the conditions of the road. If its narrow or winding, you slow down. If it's pissing down, or visibility is bad, or unlit, you slow down.

You might fail your test for driving significantly under the limit when there's no reason to, but it's perfectly legal and even desirable in lots of situations.

Oh goodness! I'd probably do 35 on that. I thought you were going to show us something like this

Before you continue to Google Maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.2806702,-2.4500659,3a,75y,291.83h,82.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfx8nFXtsnv8kMP_GWozFMg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dfx8nFXtsnv8kMP_GWozFMg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D213.27486%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Bobbotgegrinch · 24/04/2024 12:02

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/04/2024 11:55

Oh goodness! I'd probably do 35 on that. I thought you were going to show us something like this

I was going for something more like that, but the one I was thinking of has actually had the limit changed to 30 recently, so I had to find another option.

The one I posted is probably fine at 35 for most of it, aside from one very sharp right hander that comes out of nowhere. I've seen a few people who've ploughed into the gate of the chicken farm because they've not spotted it in time.

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/04/2024 12:03

Misthios · 24/04/2024 10:08

Everyone knows that. It's obvious. Today is bright, sunny, dry and warm. Would I drive the same way today as I would on a dark, wet and icy day in January? Of course not. Most drivers have common sense and drive to the conditions.

This whole thread is about drivers who do NOT adjust their driving speed to the conditions or speed limits, but just have 35-38 mph as their default setting.

that's not quite what @blossomtoes was saying. She was saying that there are many NSL roads where it is unsafe to drive anywhere near the NSL road even on a bright, sunny, dry warm day when the road is dry and the sun is not in your eyes.

What bugs me is people pottering at 45 or less on a wide A road with good visibility, who then see the "Slow" sign at a bend and hit the brakes. "They didn't mean YOU!" I find myself yelling.

taxguru · 24/04/2024 12:04

Yesterday had this. Behind some moron who went through the 30mph limit village of Tebay at 40mph and then carried on at 40mph on the NSL straight road towards Kirkby Stephen. The road is the trackbed of the old railway line so basically straight with very good visibility for several miles. Oncoming traffic meant it hard to overtake safely. The road is as below. Absolutely no reason for any half competent driver not to do 60mph. But a half competent driver wouldn't have gone through the 30mph at 40, would they?

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4379359,-2.5905796,3a,75y,25.77h,92.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spTUG3llXs8tfUYFC-gm0ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Before you continue to Google Maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4379359,-2.5905796,3a,75y,25.77h,92.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spTUG3llXs8tfUYFC-gm0ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

dustyspring · 24/04/2024 12:09

VikingLady · 24/04/2024 09:08

Some of us have cars that take a really, really long time to speed up. I have a 1.2 and there are motorway slip roads I just can't/wont take because it's literally not possible to get up above 40 in my car by the time I hit the motorway. I had no idea of the limitations of a tiny car full of heavy people!

(In the same vein, I can only overtake on motorways on the flat or downhill - seriously. So I allow for that and just don't do it!)

I don't think that's normal, I have a 1.0 litre and I still manage to join the motorway at 70, or just under 70 if I have a lot in the boot.

MereDintofPandiculation · 24/04/2024 12:09

If you're too nervous to drive - don't That's not realistic though. nearly everyone is nervous when they first pass their test and do their first solo trip - the few that aren't are a menace). And between us in this democracy we have created a society where in most of the country a car is all but necessary. So if that's the way we want to play it, we need to make it possible for almost everyone to be able to drive, which means sometimes being delayed by slower drivers, by keeping a good eye on what other drivers are doing. and by being clear and definite in our own driving so other people can understand what we're doing.

pelotonaddiction · 24/04/2024 12:46

@dustyspring the one I am talking about is a short slip road up a hill
I genuinely rev to the limits of my gears and have had the car 10 years so I know it well!
I

Soigneur · 24/04/2024 14:07

taxguru · 24/04/2024 11:49

But that's because there'll be a 30/40/50 restriction sign on the other side of the pole. ALL restricted roads must have a restriction sign on ALL side roads leading onto it, so where that happens they have to put another sign on the pole facing the other way to show the restriction/NSL. You make it look like someone has purposely decided that road is "fit" for NLS, whereas it's a consequence of imposing a restriction on the main road right behind the photography.

Yeah, it's a 30 up to there, and then an NSL beyond. It isn't even tarmaced - it's basically foot-deep ruts and boulders and no-one drives up it unless in a tractor or a very serious 4x4. Great on a mountain bike or horse though.