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People who drive 40 everywhere

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PeRiO · 23/04/2024 18:26

Sorry this subject has probably been done to death but I let it really annoy me today so just want to get it off my chest 🤣
AIBU to be annoyed at people who drive 40mph everywhere? Following a car home today, I live in a small village of which the road to it varies between 30/60. It isn't a bad road, fairly straight on the 60 bits but I appreciate 60 isn't a target speed but it riles me up when said car is happy to speed in the 30 bits but not willing to go a little faster in the 60 bits.

Anyone else?

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Shade17 · 28/04/2024 16:52

Teddleshon · 28/04/2024 15:52

Speeding is estimated to be a factor in around one third of all traffic fatalities in the UK so yes it causes accidents.

More like 15%

Teddleshon · 28/04/2024 16:56

Insurance industry statistics from 2022

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Caerulea · 28/04/2024 17:03

Ooo I'm glad this is still going!

Just got stuck behind a brand new Cooper S going 20 in a 30. Hit the 60mph two lane road & sped up to 25! The CARAVAN between us overtook him. We overtook after a while. Then the caravan proceeded to drive at 35mph & in the middle of the road. We got to the next 20mph village & guys, guess what...

Teddleshon · 28/04/2024 17:05

And according to the UK numbers exceeding the speed limit and / or travelling too fast for the road conditions contributed to 28% of fatalities

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RampantIvy · 28/04/2024 17:11

I think what some posters are failing to get is that speed doesn't necessarily cause an accident, but if the vehicle is travelling at speed the chances of a fatality are higher.

Research has shown that a person is around five times more likely to be killed when hit by a vehicle travelling at around 30mph than they are from a vehicle travelling around 20mph.

LlynTegid · 28/04/2024 17:14

RampantIvy · 28/04/2024 17:11

I think what some posters are failing to get is that speed doesn't necessarily cause an accident, but if the vehicle is travelling at speed the chances of a fatality are higher.

Research has shown that a person is around five times more likely to be killed when hit by a vehicle travelling at around 30mph than they are from a vehicle travelling around 20mph.

Thank you for making sure everyone understands. Hence why 20mph limits outside schools and in some other places are put in place.

Still think that whilst some of the responses are just people who want any inconvenient road user out of the way (probably those who hate cyclists as well), there are some of the drivers referred to who are hiding medical conditions.

PotatoPudding · 28/04/2024 17:24

Whattodo2024 · 23/04/2024 20:31

Sorry think YABU. Is someone is driving slower I assume they might not know the area or not be fully confident. Id always rather someone drive a bit slower and we all get there safely than them have an accident which then impacts me (by driving into the back of them) or someone on the other side of the road

So why would they be comfortable doing 40 in a 30 if they don’t know the area?

You must be one of those drivers.

Shade17 · 28/04/2024 17:28

Teddleshon · 28/04/2024 17:05

And according to the UK numbers exceeding the speed limit and / or travelling too fast for the road conditions contributed to 28% of fatalities

Yeah I was looking at stats a few years old, it was around 15% or below but now it’s 20%. Still not a third though.

PeRiO · 28/04/2024 20:41

Caerulea · 28/04/2024 17:03

Ooo I'm glad this is still going!

Just got stuck behind a brand new Cooper S going 20 in a 30. Hit the 60mph two lane road & sped up to 25! The CARAVAN between us overtook him. We overtook after a while. Then the caravan proceeded to drive at 35mph & in the middle of the road. We got to the next 20mph village & guys, guess what...

I feel your pain!

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SinnerBoy · 03/05/2024 15:07

I had one earlier today, 50mph dual carriageway. A car ahead was tailgating the one in front of it at under 40, in the right hand lane. The car ahead pulled off and the one in front of me went to the left hand lane. I went to pass and it immediately pulled in front of me and went at 35, for a couple of miles.

Eventually, she pulled over, I looked as I passed, which was when I realised that it was a woman. In a burka! 2 little slits to see out of - surely that can't be safe?

FourLeggedBuckers · 03/05/2024 15:27

It’s the people who think NSL means “drive at 60” regardless of the road which scare the crap out of me.

Round here, that’s mostly lanes - single car width, passing places, high hedges, blind bends, tractors, wildlife, walkers, cyclists and horse riders.

And yet absolute muppets - some of whom are probably posting on this thread - try to drive around them at 60. Even 40 is fucking dangerous. But no, it’s NSL so anyone doing 30 is dangerous 🙄

As for the poster who mentioned going around a blind bend at 59 and rear ending someone - that would not be the fault of the person doing 40, ever. If it’s a blind bend, you cannot drive around it faster than you can stop if there’s an obstruction. People driving slowly may be irritating, they may be legitimate (tractor / trailer / whatever) or they may be a shit driver - but they’re less dangerous than a fuckwit taking a blind bend at 60mph.

Not that this is relevant to the OP, because if you’re doing 40 in 30s, you’re definitely in the wrong and driving like a twit.

PeRiO · 03/05/2024 19:24

FourLeggedBuckers · 03/05/2024 15:27

It’s the people who think NSL means “drive at 60” regardless of the road which scare the crap out of me.

Round here, that’s mostly lanes - single car width, passing places, high hedges, blind bends, tractors, wildlife, walkers, cyclists and horse riders.

And yet absolute muppets - some of whom are probably posting on this thread - try to drive around them at 60. Even 40 is fucking dangerous. But no, it’s NSL so anyone doing 30 is dangerous 🙄

As for the poster who mentioned going around a blind bend at 59 and rear ending someone - that would not be the fault of the person doing 40, ever. If it’s a blind bend, you cannot drive around it faster than you can stop if there’s an obstruction. People driving slowly may be irritating, they may be legitimate (tractor / trailer / whatever) or they may be a shit driver - but they’re less dangerous than a fuckwit taking a blind bend at 60mph.

Not that this is relevant to the OP, because if you’re doing 40 in 30s, you’re definitely in the wrong and driving like a twit.

Totally agree with you there. There is another way out of my village which I try to never use unless the main road out is blocked etc. Which is mostly national speed limit and it is pretty much a single track road, 2 normal sized cars can go past at a squeeze but there are several blind corners and every single time I've used it I've either had someone come round the corner at me going way faster than they should or I've had somebody so close behind me egging me on to go faster at the corners which I refuse to do as the corners are so blind. There are regular crashes down this road.

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PeRiO · 03/05/2024 19:28

The irony, there's probably a thread out there somewhere about me. Moaning about the woman who slows down round the blind corners of a national speed limit road 🤣🤣

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RampantIvy · 03/05/2024 19:28

PeRiO · 03/05/2024 19:24

Totally agree with you there. There is another way out of my village which I try to never use unless the main road out is blocked etc. Which is mostly national speed limit and it is pretty much a single track road, 2 normal sized cars can go past at a squeeze but there are several blind corners and every single time I've used it I've either had someone come round the corner at me going way faster than they should or I've had somebody so close behind me egging me on to go faster at the corners which I refuse to do as the corners are so blind. There are regular crashes down this road.

It's the same in our village. I drive to the road conditions.

FourLeggedBuckers · 03/05/2024 19:43

PeRiO · 03/05/2024 19:28

The irony, there's probably a thread out there somewhere about me. Moaning about the woman who slows down round the blind corners of a national speed limit road 🤣🤣

Looking at some of the posts on here and how I see people drive regularly in real life, I’d bet there are also posts about me.

But I’d say that those people are probably not used to being vulnerable road users (pedestrians on country roads / cyclists / riders) or driving different vehicles (HGV/livestock/tractors etc) and have no concept of how dangerously they’re driving.

The trouble with driving to the road conditions is that it’s a judgement - if you know you could hit your mate’s kid cycling round the next bend, you drive slower than if you don’t realise people actually live in the area and use the road other than in cars. Or if you were hit by an idiot speeding round a blind bend a couple of weeks previously you’re probably going to be a bit cautious… despite what some posters on here are saying, that doesn’t mean you’re not fit to be on the road.

People just need to remember that their judgement isn’t necessarily more correct than the person they perceive to be holding them up. Sometimes they might be right, other times, they may lack local knowledge etc. It’s annoying to be held up, but it’s just a part of life.

(And still that’s not relevant to the original comments about people doing 40 everywhere, even in 30s.)

RampantIvy · 03/05/2024 21:34

@FourLeggedBuckers when I say I drive to the road conditions, that includes the type of users who use our roads. It's not just about the type of road or the weather conditions.

Our windy, narrow roads are used by cyclists and horse riders as well, so I drive assuming I might meet one on the road as well as other road users.

AngeloMysterioso · 04/05/2024 21:30

Popetthetreehugger · 24/04/2024 07:39

No I don’t . In honesty I don’t like even being driven on a motorway. This isn’t some game I’m playing , I don’t behave in this way by choice. My body reacts in a mad way , I start shaking , I can’t get my breath . I’m fighting not slamming on the breaks . God knows why I’m triggered by speed 🤷‍♀️. Iv been to the best people and spent a packet ( years ago ) I drive early to work and am looking to get a job closer to home so I don’t have to drive that far ( I moved ) I know I piss people off . But now I drive a car the size of a tank ( my daughter laughed her socks off and said I look like a drug dealer) people are less inclined to drive up my tail.

You have no business being behind the wheel of any car, much less a large, powerful one.

PotatoPudding · 04/05/2024 21:48

AngeloMysterioso · 04/05/2024 21:30

You have no business being behind the wheel of any car, much less a large, powerful one.

Couldn’t agree more.

Moreorlessmentallystable · 04/05/2024 22:02

People often do not know what's the speed limit so they just do a flat 40 everywhere. I dont agree with people in the comments saying it's ok to do 40 in a 60, perfect example is people doing 40 or even 35 some.times when trying to join a 60-70 mph road, it can cause accidents, they should be matching the speed of cars already on that road to join safely. Don't even get me started with the weirdos that won't move to the right hand lane when they see a car trying to join the road... completely unaware of their surroundings....

taxguru · 05/05/2024 09:01

Moreorlessmentallystable · 04/05/2024 22:02

People often do not know what's the speed limit so they just do a flat 40 everywhere. I dont agree with people in the comments saying it's ok to do 40 in a 60, perfect example is people doing 40 or even 35 some.times when trying to join a 60-70 mph road, it can cause accidents, they should be matching the speed of cars already on that road to join safely. Don't even get me started with the weirdos that won't move to the right hand lane when they see a car trying to join the road... completely unaware of their surroundings....

If they don't know the speed limit, they shouldn't be driving. It's not difficult to observe the speed limit signs and remember some pretty basic rules about speed limits when there are no signs!!

Moreorlessmentallystable · 05/05/2024 09:36

taxguru · 05/05/2024 09:01

If they don't know the speed limit, they shouldn't be driving. It's not difficult to observe the speed limit signs and remember some pretty basic rules about speed limits when there are no signs!!

Of course I agree 💯

Purplegrapejuicefan · 05/05/2024 09:41

Also annoys me when people do 20 in a 30 zone because they assume all city roads are 20 now. It’s 20 where it says it’s 20, not where it doesn’t!!

TimeForTeaAndG · 05/05/2024 11:22

Moreorlessmentallystable · 04/05/2024 22:02

People often do not know what's the speed limit so they just do a flat 40 everywhere. I dont agree with people in the comments saying it's ok to do 40 in a 60, perfect example is people doing 40 or even 35 some.times when trying to join a 60-70 mph road, it can cause accidents, they should be matching the speed of cars already on that road to join safely. Don't even get me started with the weirdos that won't move to the right hand lane when they see a car trying to join the road... completely unaware of their surroundings....

People already on the main carriageway do not have to move over for those joining. It is up to those joining to do so safely and to merge with the traffic.

Shade17 · 05/05/2024 12:25

TimeForTeaAndG · 05/05/2024 11:22

People already on the main carriageway do not have to move over for those joining. It is up to those joining to do so safely and to merge with the traffic.

No, but if you can it’s a nice bit of courtesy

BIossomtoes · 05/05/2024 12:53

TimeForTeaAndG · 05/05/2024 11:22

People already on the main carriageway do not have to move over for those joining. It is up to those joining to do so safely and to merge with the traffic.

No they don’t but I was taught to do so and am intensely grateful when other drivers are thoughtful enough to do it.