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People who drive 40 everywhere

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PeRiO · 23/04/2024 18:26

Sorry this subject has probably been done to death but I let it really annoy me today so just want to get it off my chest 🤣
AIBU to be annoyed at people who drive 40mph everywhere? Following a car home today, I live in a small village of which the road to it varies between 30/60. It isn't a bad road, fairly straight on the 60 bits but I appreciate 60 isn't a target speed but it riles me up when said car is happy to speed in the 30 bits but not willing to go a little faster in the 60 bits.

Anyone else?

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Biggybigbiggles · 23/04/2024 21:27

These are the same people who will slam on the brakes at roundabouts despite it being clear.

The people who fucking faff and dawdle are the ones who cause accidents, not those quick off the mark.

WithManyTot · 23/04/2024 21:27

If it's straight enough for 60 to be appropriate, then you should safely be able to over take a vehicle doing 40. If it's too twisty to overtake, maybe 40 is an appropriate speed? I don't see the problem

Dabralor · 23/04/2024 21:30

This drives me insane.
Who are these people who are so cavalier on urban roads yet drive like snails in the countryside? It's madness.

Carnewb · 23/04/2024 21:31

ViscountessMelbourne · 23/04/2024 21:21

Do you also routinely speed through rural villages? If not then this thread isn't about you.

Wasn't about middle lane hoggers either but people are still talking about that.

I was putting a different perspective on the driving slower part, which I've done and the reasons why.

I'm allowed to do that and you're allowed to disagree, it's kind of how discussions happen.

I'm sorry if me contributing to the thread has in some way upset you, can't think for the life of me why but there you go, takes all sorts!

FrogTheWarrior · 23/04/2024 21:40

Bigcoatweather · 23/04/2024 19:35

I have similar irritation with people who try to do 60 on our narrow winding roads with umpteen blind corners because the speed limit says it’s okay, so it must be true.

Yep. Coming at you on your side of the road because they’ve taken a bend too fast. This happens every single day on my commute, bloody dangerous.

If someone is too close behind me trying to intimidate me to drive faster, I slow down. My thought process is if they are not controlling the stopping distance, I’ll do it by lowering speed then. Plus, I have a better chance of avoiding the aforementioned idiots who think they can handle speed on all roads.

Or, and this happens also every day, the utter twats who overtake dangerously who you then roll up behind at the next junction or set of lights anyway! What’s the point?! I sometimes give them a little wave.

Cluelessasacucumber · 23/04/2024 21:40

We call them the 37 club. Theyre infuriating. They are so unsafe! It's not that they need to hit 60 on every straight stretch ( not always appropriate for conditions of road), but their complete inability to read or adjust to the conditions of the road is dreadful. Speeding through villages and 20 zones, and crawling along straight dual carage ways.

YoureAGoodManArthurMorgan · 23/04/2024 21:41

Carnewb · 23/04/2024 21:21

I wasn't failed for hesitation because I didn't hesitate?
I don't hesitate now, I was for those first few journeys, more careful, I wasn't doing 20 in a 60 but maybe 50, 25 in a 30 etc.
I happily do 60 and 70 (although I won't break the limit because I don't particularly want to lose my licence, I've only got 6 points for another year) when it's safe to do so.

What would you have said if I'd involved you in an accident on that first journey because I got cocky and thought as I'd passed the test that was all I needed and didn't handle a situation as well as someone driving 20 years plus? Would you have preferred I took it a bit easier and everyone got home safe?

Hesitation is dangerous to other road users.

I'm not judging you making what you thought was a safe decision. But clearly you didn't feel safe on the road after passing, so it does sound like you should have been failed.

I'll be honest, I failed one of my driving tests for hesitation. I was really annoyed at the time, but I'm grateful for it now. I thought I was driving carefully, but actually I was making myself into a hazard. It was definitely the boot up the arse I needed to stop fannying around. I've certainly never done it since!

MississippiAF · 23/04/2024 21:41

Cluelessasacucumber · 23/04/2024 21:40

We call them the 37 club. Theyre infuriating. They are so unsafe! It's not that they need to hit 60 on every straight stretch ( not always appropriate for conditions of road), but their complete inability to read or adjust to the conditions of the road is dreadful. Speeding through villages and 20 zones, and crawling along straight dual carage ways.

and hard braking for any speed camera to drop an extra 10mph below, just to be on the safe side

RampantIvy · 23/04/2024 21:47

ThursdayTomorrow · 23/04/2024 19:26

It’s fine doing 40 in a 60.
Not fine doing 40 in a 30.
So you are half right OP.

But why would you drive at 33.33% below the speed limit on a straight road on a dry day with excellent visibility?

I know it is a speed limit not a target, but driving excessively slowly creates frustration and causes accidents.

There are signs on some of the roads in Scotland asking slower drivers to pull over and let faster drivers overtake.

Then these same drivers still drive at 40 through our village which has a 30mph speed limit. You would think that they don't know how to change gear.

Carnewb · 23/04/2024 21:52

YoureAGoodManArthurMorgan · 23/04/2024 21:41

Hesitation is dangerous to other road users.

I'm not judging you making what you thought was a safe decision. But clearly you didn't feel safe on the road after passing, so it does sound like you should have been failed.

I'll be honest, I failed one of my driving tests for hesitation. I was really annoyed at the time, but I'm grateful for it now. I thought I was driving carefully, but actually I was making myself into a hazard. It was definitely the boot up the arse I needed to stop fannying around. I've certainly never done it since!

You seem determined that I shouldn't have passed because I was aware of my own limitations and lack of experience and took that into account.

There's a reason people are more likely to have an accident in the first two years - lack of experience.

Maybe if more people were aware of their own limitations and taking it into account, there'd be less accidents all round?

herecomesthesun24 · 23/04/2024 21:52

They obviously don't use their mirrors either to see the queue of traffic stacked behind them!

YoureAGoodManArthurMorgan · 23/04/2024 22:00

Carnewb · 23/04/2024 21:52

You seem determined that I shouldn't have passed because I was aware of my own limitations and lack of experience and took that into account.

There's a reason people are more likely to have an accident in the first two years - lack of experience.

Maybe if more people were aware of their own limitations and taking it into account, there'd be less accidents all round?

Given that you've given a description of driving dangerously immediately after passing your test, yes I do think it would have been better for you to have been failed. It's perfectly possible to cause accidents by driving too slowly and cautiously, which is why you'll fail your test for it.

If you didn't even feel confident enough to do 30, that's very telling.

I'm not trying to offend you, but it's factual that you would be failed for not getting up to an appropriate speed if you'd done that on your test. It's not safe to dither.

oldgreysquirreltest · 23/04/2024 22:02

It's not about being in a rush. Driving at 40 in a 60 zone is dangerous too.

HauntedBungalow · 23/04/2024 22:08

Speedweed · 23/04/2024 20:55

People don't trust teachers, politicians or the police, but for some reason place blind faith that road speed limits have been properly assessed for each road, which is mad, because it's not the case at all.

B roads were just designated at the national speed limit years ago, when cars didn't go as fast. When they approach a residential 30 zone, the speed limit drops through 50 40 30, the speed limit being assigned through distance from the 30 zone. Smaller roads have never been assessed for safety at those speeds.

I have a road near me which is signposted 60. When it's sunny and in daylight potentially it could be 60 (the road isn't actually full width, but people unfamiliar with it wouldn't know as it has a line down the middle, so it has some very hairy blind curves so 45 to 55 is a better speed). But at night, deer and badgers leap out, when it's rainy the road surface is poor, it's unlit and the road markings are nearly gone in places - it's definitely not a 60. 40 is a much safer speed in those conditions. But few people seem to adjust for this, and assume 60 is still the right speed, because the sign says so. Madness.

I agree with this. Especially if you don't know the road, 60 just isn't appropriate for many B roads, especially given the state of many now - a lot have a long extended pothole along the outside edge. And like fuck am I going to be bombing along at 60 through the Howardian Hills, or on a dark road with no markings shaped like an elbow.

MereDintofPandiculation · 23/04/2024 22:10

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 23/04/2024 19:41

No it absolutely isn't fine to do 40 in a 60 🙄 As stated ⬆️, you'd fail your driving test for doing it so clearly not ok. If you don't feel confident to do 60 on a 60 stretch in normal conditions then you shouldn't be on the road.

Except there isn't such a thing as a 60mph road. There's roads that have a speed limit applied, and then the rest, which haven't been assessed, and therefore come under the national speed limit of 60mph (previously they were "derestricted" - that's why the sign is as it is, and not a "60" in a red circle)

bonzaitree · 23/04/2024 22:12

Im probs one of those people who are going too slow.

Thing is I learned in a big city and I only really drive in a big city. So when im in the countryside about once a year im really not used to it. I feel like I do hold people up. But I’m just not used to the bendy roads.

MereDintofPandiculation · 23/04/2024 22:15

AngeloMysterioso · 23/04/2024 20:15

You won’t be saying that when you’re stuck behind someone doing 40 in a 60 and get rear ended by someone who was doing 59 in a 60 who came round the corner and couldn’t slow down in time.

If someone came round a corner and wasn't able to stop in time, then that was entirely their own fault.

Highway Code Rule 126. Stopping distances. Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear.

Remoteaccess · 23/04/2024 22:15

ThursdayTomorrow · 23/04/2024 19:26

It’s fine doing 40 in a 60.
Not fine doing 40 in a 30.
So you are half right OP.

No it isn't ok, I'm guessing you've realised that by now.

Hate the 40 in a 30 a lot more though, twats.

dustyspring · 23/04/2024 22:15

This is so irritating and the worst ones are the ones who do 40 on motorway slip roads. WTF is that all about?? Presumably thinking the motorway is dangerous but they're the ones creating the danger! Hmm

Soigneur · 23/04/2024 22:16

sandieollsen · 23/04/2024 20:12

I think most of them stick at the same speed because they're completely oblivious to road signs, including speed limit signs. Those people are dangerous because they almost certainly won't be noticing all the other kinds of road signs too, i.e. harsh bends, side road junctions, etc etc.

This is it, it goes with no indicating, not understanding how roundabouts work, and not putting their lights on when it’s dark. On our local roads (we are rural) it’s guaranteed to be an elderly driver.

Remoteaccess · 23/04/2024 22:16

Whattodo2024 · 23/04/2024 20:31

Sorry think YABU. Is someone is driving slower I assume they might not know the area or not be fully confident. Id always rather someone drive a bit slower and we all get there safely than them have an accident which then impacts me (by driving into the back of them) or someone on the other side of the road

What about the speeding in the 30 zone then?

Shade17 · 23/04/2024 22:16

MereDintofPandiculation · 23/04/2024 22:10

Except there isn't such a thing as a 60mph road. There's roads that have a speed limit applied, and then the rest, which haven't been assessed, and therefore come under the national speed limit of 60mph (previously they were "derestricted" - that's why the sign is as it is, and not a "60" in a red circle)

Other than DCs which would otherwise be NSL.

Soigneur · 23/04/2024 22:21

MereDintofPandiculation · 23/04/2024 22:10

Except there isn't such a thing as a 60mph road. There's roads that have a speed limit applied, and then the rest, which haven't been assessed, and therefore come under the national speed limit of 60mph (previously they were "derestricted" - that's why the sign is as it is, and not a "60" in a red circle)

The sign is as it is because the NSL is different for single and dual carriageways and for different classes of vehicle. A 60 (or 70 on a dual carriageway) would be incorrect as the NSL is not 60 (or 70) for all vehicles.

HauntedBungalow · 23/04/2024 22:21

bonzaitree · 23/04/2024 22:12

Im probs one of those people who are going too slow.

Thing is I learned in a big city and I only really drive in a big city. So when im in the countryside about once a year im really not used to it. I feel like I do hold people up. But I’m just not used to the bendy roads.

Same. Also , the city I learned in was flat. I'm grand in cities, I'm grand on motorways. But eeny weenie cart tracks that double back on themselves, have dark edges that may or may not rip my tyres (I dunno, I'm not a fucking farmer, this isn't my commute) and swoop and loop around all over the shop so that Peahead Farton-Blarton doesn't lose a centimetre of his grouse shooting land to the infernal tarmac, that haven't had a government inspector near them since good old Binky waved his dear little flag and set the Rolls off ... I haven't a clue what's round the next blind corner, so I go slower.

Iloveanicegarden · 23/04/2024 22:21

Do you drive in south Devon?