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People who drive 40 everywhere

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PeRiO · 23/04/2024 18:26

Sorry this subject has probably been done to death but I let it really annoy me today so just want to get it off my chest 🤣
AIBU to be annoyed at people who drive 40mph everywhere? Following a car home today, I live in a small village of which the road to it varies between 30/60. It isn't a bad road, fairly straight on the 60 bits but I appreciate 60 isn't a target speed but it riles me up when said car is happy to speed in the 30 bits but not willing to go a little faster in the 60 bits.

Anyone else?

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Louloulouenna · 25/04/2024 21:38

Yes obviously you need to brake approaching roundabouts and junctions etc but on a motorway or most 60mph roads you should generally be able to slow enough for corners and so on taking your foot off the accelerator.

BIossomtoes · 25/04/2024 21:44

Should be perhaps in a perfect world, in real life it’s not.

shearwater2 · 26/04/2024 06:09

Corners? You wouldn't want to take any corner at 60 on a standard road. Slight bend, perhaps, but it depends on the conditions, and whether on a slope.

Take your foot off the accelerator and change gear in a manual car. And brake in a automatic.

In an EV, sure, just take your foot off because of regenerative braking.

shearwater2 · 26/04/2024 06:19

MockneyReject · 24/04/2024 18:31

As I've explained, that's not an option for those workers I listed.
The only way a home carer, can leave earlier to allow for inconsiderate road users, is by cutting short the previous care visit - by rushing or missing out tasks, such as washing, or giving medication.

Such workers get told where to go, when to be there, and how long they're allowed for the journey. They have no authority to make adjustments to their schedule.

My point is that, yes, some people are in a rush, and no, leaving earlier is not an option.

If you regularly find yourself at the head of a convoy, you're the problem. Have some consideration, and pull over, like tractors do.

Still not my problem when they are driving up my arse because I'm not speeding through the village where I live.

shearwater2 · 26/04/2024 06:22

kitsuneghost · 24/04/2024 16:59

Totally agree with this
If you are feeling ragey, you need to stop and calm down. I truly believe more accidents are caused by impatience and road rage than any other factor.

Indeed. Impatience, anger and distraction.

DuchesseNemours · 26/04/2024 06:34

I live in a village in an area that is mainly only villages connected by 60 roads and I know just the type of driver you mean OP.

I can cope with 40ers on a 60 road. Though I appreciate it gets tiresome

But speeding in a 30 zone is downright selfish and dangerous. If they've been doing 40 to that point and carry on even though the limit changes, it proves how little they notice or care about the driving they are doing.

shearwater2 · 26/04/2024 06:45

When traffic calming measures and a 20mph limit were introduced here, some drivers admitted they hadn't even noticed they were driving through a village before.

And some still go absolutely batshit crazy with impatience if you stick to the limit.

SinnerBoy · 26/04/2024 07:49

Teddleshon · Yesterday 18:26

That’s another whole subject - why do people apply the brake rather than just taking their foot off the accelerator?!

Because the brakes are designed to slow the car quickly and efficiently, they also make the brake lights come on, so cars behind can see and understand that they should slow down, too.

taxguru · 26/04/2024 08:10

shearwater2 · 26/04/2024 06:09

Corners? You wouldn't want to take any corner at 60 on a standard road. Slight bend, perhaps, but it depends on the conditions, and whether on a slope.

Take your foot off the accelerator and change gear in a manual car. And brake in a automatic.

In an EV, sure, just take your foot off because of regenerative braking.

Edited

You really shouldn't be changing gear to slow down. That puts a lot of stress on the clutch, gearbox and engine. It's was the brakes are for!

The advanced motorist system:

Course
Mirror
Speed/Brake
Gear
Accelerate

To slow down, you come off the accelerator and brake if that isn't enough, then you change gear, then you accelerate away from the hazard.

Teddleshon · 26/04/2024 08:14

Perhaps I wasn’t clear, obviously you should brake if coming off the accelerator isn’t enough for the situation but certainly for motorways and for many 60mph roads, if you’re looking ahead coming off the accelerator should be sufficient.

It’s the responsibility of motorists behind to keep a safe distance and monitor your speed.

GCAcademic · 26/04/2024 08:16

These fuckers are the reason why we now have 20mph speed limits in all the villages around here.

Teddleshon · 26/04/2024 08:17

From the RAC website

People who drive 40 everywhere
Porridgeislife · 26/04/2024 08:21

BIossomtoes · 25/04/2024 18:31

it's called taking your foot off the accelerator in plenty of time, using the clutch to slow down before gently applying the brake if needed.

That doesn’t work in an automatic, the only way to slow down is with the brake. No hybrids or EVs have clutches.

Eh? Of course taking your foot off the brake will slow an automatic. I have an automatic ICE and an EV and only need to use the brake if coming to an intersection/roundabout.

RampantIvy · 26/04/2024 09:45

they also make the brake lights come on, so cars behind can see and understand that they should slow down, too.

This is advice that the police and IAM give. They also suggest that if you are the last vehicle in a queue of traffic at a junction or traffic lights, or anywhere else where the traffic has stopped, that you keep your foot on the brake pedal to warn the traffic coming up behind you, until another vehicle stops behind you.

They also advise that if someone is tailgating you that you gently put your foot on the brake pedal to show your brake lights so that the driver behind slows down.

I was also told by a policeman that if they see anyone driving unduly slowly they will stop them to check if they are OK (unwell or under the influence of drink or drugs).

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 09:49

Of course taking your foot off the brake will slow an automatic.

Yes, veeeeery sloooooowly. If you need to reduce your speed from 60 to 30 it would take about a mile without using the brake. Why is this even a discussion? What’s wrong with braking?

By the way, I think you meant accelerator, not brake.

taxguru · 26/04/2024 10:10

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 09:49

Of course taking your foot off the brake will slow an automatic.

Yes, veeeeery sloooooowly. If you need to reduce your speed from 60 to 30 it would take about a mile without using the brake. Why is this even a discussion? What’s wrong with braking?

By the way, I think you meant accelerator, not brake.

Edited

In my automatic it takes a lot less distance than a mile to go from 60 to 30.

As for reasons, four fold. Better fuel economy, less wear and tear on the brake pads (reduced cost), less chance of being rear-ended and generally a more relaxed drive if you're not constantly accelerating and braking.

Louloulouenna · 26/04/2024 10:11

Mine slows far faster than that, particularly uphill.

It’s an issue because people constantly brake unnecessarily, if you’re behind someone who brakes it’s impossible to judge whether they are just slowing gradually for an impending corner or because there is a real need to suddenly brake (ie an animal in the road). Unnecessary braking on motorways causes traffic jams and sometimes accidents as people brake relatively harder and harder the further back they are.

Unnecessary braking is also very bad for fuel consumption and not good for your engine.

RampantIvy · 26/04/2024 10:40

As for reasons, four fold. Better fuel economy, less wear and tear on the brake pads (reduced cost), less chance of being rear-ended and generally a more relaxed drive if you're not constantly accelerating and braking.

That's no justification for driving unsafely.

taxguru · 26/04/2024 10:45

RampantIvy · 26/04/2024 10:40

As for reasons, four fold. Better fuel economy, less wear and tear on the brake pads (reduced cost), less chance of being rear-ended and generally a more relaxed drive if you're not constantly accelerating and braking.

That's no justification for driving unsafely.

On what planet would you think it's unsafe to drive smoothly rather than constantly accelerate and brake? The mind boggles!

Porridgeislife · 26/04/2024 10:47

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 09:49

Of course taking your foot off the brake will slow an automatic.

Yes, veeeeery sloooooowly. If you need to reduce your speed from 60 to 30 it would take about a mile without using the brake. Why is this even a discussion? What’s wrong with braking?

By the way, I think you meant accelerator, not brake.

Edited

Clearly you’ve got quite an unusual car as it very definitely wouldn’t take a mile to slow in either of our automatics, or any of the ones I’ve driven since my licence at 17.

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 10:57

taxguru · 26/04/2024 10:10

In my automatic it takes a lot less distance than a mile to go from 60 to 30.

As for reasons, four fold. Better fuel economy, less wear and tear on the brake pads (reduced cost), less chance of being rear-ended and generally a more relaxed drive if you're not constantly accelerating and braking.

You don’t stand any greater chance of being rear ended if you brake gently, less actually because your brake lights warn the driver behind that you’re slowing down.

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 10:58

Porridgeislife · 26/04/2024 10:47

Clearly you’ve got quite an unusual car as it very definitely wouldn’t take a mile to slow in either of our automatics, or any of the ones I’ve driven since my licence at 17.

I exaggerated, it still takes considerably longer to slow down if you don’t brake.

Porridgeislife · 26/04/2024 11:05

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 10:58

I exaggerated, it still takes considerably longer to slow down if you don’t brake.

So what’s your point exactly?

Teddleshon · 26/04/2024 11:05

There is far less chance of being rear ended if you reduce your speed slowly (I e taking your foot off the accelerator) than suddenly (by braking). All telematics / black box rate driving quality negatively on the higher the level of accelerating / braking.

ViscountessMelbourne · 26/04/2024 11:08

BIossomtoes · 26/04/2024 10:58

I exaggerated, it still takes considerably longer to slow down if you don’t brake.

Yes, of course braking is the quickest way to slow down: it's the way you slow down if you have to do it in a hurry at zero notice, rather than as something you've planned ahead, because you can see that the road ahead will require it.

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