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To be frightened about the Government’s plans for benefits reform?

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PilgorTheGoat · 21/04/2024 11:39

I am one of the millions of people currently on long term sickness benefits. I receive the LCWRA element of UC and PIP due to poor mental health and autism. I have severe anxiety and depression and I am awaiting an appointment to see if I also have PTSD due to sexual abuse in my childhood.

I have tried every element of support offered to me. I’m maxed out on 2 different types of antidepressants. I have had back-to-back (excluding the 6 month wait in between) 12 week sessions of counselling offered via the NHS. I am on a waiting list for intensive CBT due to my possible PTSD. I am currently having twice weekly private, video counselling appointments.

I can’t leave my house alone due to panic attacks. I struggle to meet my own care needs and my husband has to do a lot of the work for us both (although he works full time). I have a very understanding friend whom I force myself to go for a short walk with twice a week in order to stop myself becoming completely imprisoned at home but I find this very distressing and we have to take the same route each time.

I am so, so scared about the government’s plans to end sickness benefits for people like me. We don’t have a load of spare cash, we’re just about getting by. There is no support available. I’ve taken everything offered and my husband has been very proactive in seeking out other services for me to be involved with. I’d love to be better, I’d love not to live in fear but there is no help.

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Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 11:59

OnlyComments · 23/04/2024 11:56

Who do people always say they have mental health instead of mental illness? It’s really odd! It’s great to have mental health!

Sorry mental illness ..does that help you ?

KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 12:00

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 11:39

I know someone on pip and uc and they get more than I get for working 50 hrs a week ...and do presume anything about me I never said ppl enjoy living on benefits

Jealousy of the disabled now. What a low bar

WiseKhakiGoose · 23/04/2024 12:12

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 11:39

I know someone on pip and uc and they get more than I get for working 50 hrs a week ...and do presume anything about me I never said ppl enjoy living on benefits

Well, if they get PIP and Universal credit that means they either have serious physical or mental health issues. Don't you think it is fair that they receive it?
Can you write here all the rates they receive for every benefit? And how much you earn? Because I find it hard to believe.
Also, you do realise that they can't work like you 50 hrs a week. Would you rather switch places with them and become so unhealthy that you can't work at all? You do realise that the moment you start being jealous of disabled people then there's something terrible wrong with your own life or your life values?

WiseKhakiGoose · 23/04/2024 12:18

SeulementUneFois · 21/04/2024 18:10

OP
I know that as an initial statement this may sound trite, but if you are almost house bound, can you look for a WFH job?
If your skills to date were in a type of work that can't be WFH you could look into restraining into something different where that would be possible.
It would probably take a while but what have you got to lose? (Again I'm talking about online training and/ or self study - for example my professional exams were/ are all self study.)

OP wrote that she can't concentrate at all now. She was an accountant and obviously if she could have worked from home, she would have done it.

Also she wrote about her C-PTSD because of childhood sexual abuse, that means every day she has flashbacks of what happened to her. It means that every day she relives what happened with her. Can you imagine living every day through it? She feels all that pain every day and she can't control when it happens. How can anyone work while going through something like that?

Google C-PTSD symptoms and you'll see there's more than only flashbacks. It's far more complicated than most people think.

Hermittrismegistus · 23/04/2024 12:22

No thanks I already suffer MH and my partner is disabled grow up

Nothing stopping you making a PIP claim.

GoodnightAdeline · 23/04/2024 12:37

There’s benefit fraud proper where somebody makes completely false statements about their abilities, then there’s ’massaging the facts’ which probably happens a lot more often. You can’t say it doesn’t because on all of these benefit support Facebook pages they’re egging each other on to stretch the truth and swapping tips on how to check the right boxes. That’s probably a much bigger issue than outright fraud, and not quantifiable really.

I think realistically there are a lot of people who could be doing more, but are either ingrained into the benefit lifestyle and change is too daunting, or they just don’t want to.

Thelnebriati · 23/04/2024 12:47

Of the support isn't there because as others have said upthread, its too expensive, and employers want everyone to work as and when.

SlothMovesReallySlow · 23/04/2024 12:49

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BIossomtoes · 23/04/2024 13:02

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Did you really need to say that? You actually think it’s appropriate to gratuitously respond to someone explaining how getting a kicking has made them feel by putting the boot in some more?

Universalsnail · 23/04/2024 13:05

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Wow you are delightful

Hermittrismegistus · 23/04/2024 13:06

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Oh be quiet!

You aren’t the op, so no, you don’t know exactly how the op is affected.

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KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 13:22

I think people confuse those unable to work with benefit fraud. I don’t know you stop fraud. I can’t imagine the DWP has the budget or manpower to delve too deeply into every claim. That’s what the piss takers are relying on. For people who genuinely need the benefit system it’s a saviour. Perhaps those jealous (laughable) whingers would like to see the return of the Victorian poor houses. It’s the fraudulent claims that need tackling because those doing it are not only stealing but unfortunately every person who relies on the social security system to survive gets tarred with the same brush. Being unable to work doesn’t make you a piss taker. It makes you vulnerable.

ilovesooty · 23/04/2024 14:26

KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 12:00

Jealousy of the disabled now. What a low bar

If I were that person I don't think I'd share my financial information with someone so lacking in basic empathy.

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 14:42

WiseKhakiGoose · 23/04/2024 12:12

Well, if they get PIP and Universal credit that means they either have serious physical or mental health issues. Don't you think it is fair that they receive it?
Can you write here all the rates they receive for every benefit? And how much you earn? Because I find it hard to believe.
Also, you do realise that they can't work like you 50 hrs a week. Would you rather switch places with them and become so unhealthy that you can't work at all? You do realise that the moment you start being jealous of disabled people then there's something terrible wrong with your own life or your life values?

Yes I do thinknits fair whst the fuck are you on about I never said it wasn't

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 14:44

Hermittrismegistus · 23/04/2024 12:22

No thanks I already suffer MH and my partner is disabled grow up

Nothing stopping you making a PIP claim.

I dont need too he does and gets it

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 14:45

KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 12:00

Jealousy of the disabled now. What a low bar

How fucking date you suggest I'm jealous my partner is disabled ffs ...sick comment

Hermittrismegistus · 23/04/2024 15:09

I dont need too he does and gets it

So you've complained about people getting more than you do from your wage, but you don't actually need PIP?

So essentially you're complaining because you don't need PIP?

KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 15:11

ilovesooty · 23/04/2024 14:26

If I were that person I don't think I'd share my financial information with someone so lacking in basic empathy.

Yes quite. What an angry, ignorant person she’s coming across as. Scary actually

KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 15:13

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 14:45

How fucking date you suggest I'm jealous my partner is disabled ffs ...sick comment

Why have you resorted to swearing at me? Hit a nerve have I?

TheFunHasGone · 23/04/2024 15:17

Some people on here make no sense at all 🤦‍♀️

Babyroobs · 23/04/2024 15:45

TheFunHasGone · 23/04/2024 15:17

Some people on here make no sense at all 🤦‍♀️

There's loads of these benefit threads running on MN at the moment. Same people spending literally all day ( for days on end ) arguing with each other, it's baffling how they have the time and energy for it. Do people really have nothing else to do, no jobs to go to ?

ilovesooty · 23/04/2024 15:54

Babyroobs · 23/04/2024 15:45

There's loads of these benefit threads running on MN at the moment. Same people spending literally all day ( for days on end ) arguing with each other, it's baffling how they have the time and energy for it. Do people really have nothing else to do, no jobs to go to ?

One does wonder.

WiseKhakiGoose · 23/04/2024 15:54

Nicetobenice7 · 23/04/2024 14:42

Yes I do thinknits fair whst the fuck are you on about I never said it wasn't

Lol, there's definitely something wrong with your life values and the way you talk makes no sense. Are you trying now to gaslight all of us and make us believe that we didn't understand what you meant?

Read one more time what you wrote and have a look in the mirror:

"Nicetobenice7 · 21/04/2024 17:50
It's a fact there are ppl on benefits that shouldn't be on them like it or not"

"Nicetobenice7 · Today 11:39
I know someone on pip and uc and they get more than I get for working 50 hrs a week ...and do presume anything about me I never said ppl enjoy living on benefits"

The only good thing about people like you is that sooner or later you'll find yourself in the same position as all people who struggle with health issues and can't work because of it. One day you'll get old and unable to work because of your health! Let's see how you'll feel then!

WiseKhakiGoose · 23/04/2024 16:16

KittyCollar · 23/04/2024 15:11

Yes quite. What an angry, ignorant person she’s coming across as. Scary actually

I totally agree with you. The main problem with people like Nicetobenice7 is they hide their lack of empathy in real life and it's hard to spot and cut them off. Especially if this is one of the close family members and society tell us that our family loves us, no matter who they are.

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