To think SS killed autistic mother

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/young-autistic-mum-took-life-32626429

No I think the young mother killed herself because of the mental health issues which caused her child to be in foster care in the first place.

Everyone has mental health issues. Everyone is depressed. I know plenty of unstable mothers who have not had their children taken away.

I always feel a bit sorry for SS. When they take action and remove children, they are vilified for interfering. When they don't remove children, they are vilified for that, too.

I certainly agree that the shortage of meaningful inclusion and MH services is a travesty.

And you think that's an appropriate environment for a baby?

As an autistic mum this hits particularly hard. At 22 I would've needed so much support to be able to parent my children, but it would have been possible with the right support. It sounds like Fern was let down by the local authority that were supposed to be safeguarding her.

Not a lot of actual detail about her case, but very troubling that she openly engaged with services and was honest about her mental health struggles only to be told she wouldn't be given the chance to parent her own child.

Everyone doesn't have mental health issues.
Everyone isn't depressed.

They didn't kill her, she killed herself after a long history of self harm.

You don't know what was going on. SS don't remove children for no reason. Perhaps you wanted them to let her keep the baby with her? Then you would blame SS again if the child was neglected or god forbid, worse, as often happens.

Beats allowing the mother to do herself in, for goodness sake.

We don't and will never know the ins and outs, because social care (rightly) are not allowed to comment. It would breach the confidentiality of all affected.

So social care might have got things massively wrong, or there might he a huge backstory showing they were right to put the plans in place they did, but we won't ever know.

From the little we do know, it seems like the partners solicitor did the obvious harm, by mention adoption in an email. The family shouldn't be told their child might be placed for adoption like that, but that was the solicitor's mistake, not social care.

I feel the detailed narrative verdict is most likely fairer than anything I could add without knowing all the details of the case

’Everyone’ doesn’t have MH issues or is depressed, and the fact that you know ‘plenty of unstable mothers’ looking after their children suggests more about your social circle than the world at large.

Thetes not enough information in this story to judge what exactly the failure was. SS are overstretched, and face hideous consequences if they miss a vulnerable child. It’s not clear why she and her baby were flagged as of concern in the first place. The story says FF didn’t engage in self-harm or risky behaviour once she knew she was pregnant, but the baby was removed from her care aged one month — the story doesn’t say why, or what FF would have needed to engage with to be reunited with her baby. A BBC story suggested that several agencies were involved, but none may have fully understood her total needs, and that she’s said consistently she would die by suicide if her baby were adopted.Its a terribly sad story, but has a lot of information missing.

How did they "allow" her? What should they have done, 24hr surveillance? Lock her up?

So her baby had only been fostered for five months before they hinted at adoption?
Awful thing to put in an email. Mum needed support too, sounds like she loved her child very much. Heartbreaking.

No.

Idk, maybe offering her the support she asked for?

I think some people haven't read the whole story, there was an inquest, the LA were found to be at fault. Whatever your (openly vile) opinion on people with mental health issues parenting children the fact is that a judge has deemed the LA were not providing adequate support. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv268wyz9wlo

Well, no they don't. I have no MH issues and I'm not depressed.

The child's welfare has to come before the mother's at the end of it all.

The inquest knew the ins and outs, that's what an inquest does. And the LA were found to be at fault.

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So you're saying that a child has to grow up in a house with a depressed mother, who also has poor mental health, just so the mother doesn't kill herself?

Poor child.

The bar for removal is very high and it isn’t SS decision. The police can remove a child for a max of 48 hours others wise it’s a family court judge who makes that decision.

Almost no one gets support. We're all left to our own devices.

Thank you!

The inquest would have heard All the facts