To think SS killed autistic mother

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/young-autistic-mum-took-life-32626429

This. Even if they were at fault, they didn't "kill" her, she did that.

God I am so sorry. 🎗

Do you understand that the support referenced here was legally required to be put into place while she was pregnant?

Have you read the inquest?
Nobody here is advocating for a child to be with an “unfit parent” so calm yourself ffs.

People who are not safe parents can also be autistic. Most parents with autism are safe parents. The baby had to be protected from harm. It's sad that this young woman could not access support. Everyone does NOT have mental health 'issues' & depression. We all have mental health. If the diagnosis was schizophrenia with a tendency to harm would people think the baby should have been left.

Nope. Read further up the thread. OP is now weirdly denying it, but she literally wrote that a baby staying with an unstable “mother” is better than “allowing” the woman to kill herself.

OH MY GOD, I wrote death but I meant BIRTH of my second child. I'll report and have it deleted but my point was, even with severe PND/PPP I was still a bloody good mum.

What a tragic case.

Clearly more support should have been given, but we all know how stretched support services are.

I'll put this one down to the Tories and their stripping of support from those who need it.

May she rest in peace.

Fern wasn’t “unstable” until after her baby had been taken from her. The OP was disagreeing with your swapping the order of events.

We dont know this mother was a good mother though there is not enough information about why the child was removed
I think the fact she is autistic is a red herring here ,as as we all should know ,its a huge spectrum and some people with autism will be very capable and others can't even look after themselves let alone a tiny baby
And everything else in between.

Yes there was a lot to this case, hence the inquest. In which a judge ruled that the LA were at fault.

My my, some things, like the celebration of this girl's death, you should really keep to yourself.

Surely the solicitor is at least as much to blame as SS? He should never have said that in a letter. News like that needs to be sensitively delivered and it wasn't definite but did she realise that, did she know what she had to do to avoid it?

The solicitor was doing his job. She was going to find out the news one way or another.

I know of someone on the spectrum who talks about their mental health problems in front of their children all the time, they constantly say in front of their children if it was not for them they would kill themselves, can you imagine what on earth that does to the children's mental health?

I'm horrified at the way society view autistic mothers. Do they think we are all off in a corner somewhere counting matchsticks like in Rain Man? Not wiping the tears after a fall, cuddling while watching a film, spending ages doing Panini stickers, chatting about our days, doing the grocery shopping, checking the school bags and doing the school runs just like all the non autistic mums?

Heartbreaking. It’s likely there wasn’t availability at a mother and baby unit or funding for immediate support in the home - it was probably easier and cheaper for SS to remove the baby which is awful when had the direct support been in place they would never had to separate mother and baby

It's great that she was open and honest, but if the information she provided showed she wasn't capable of parenting responsibly and safely, surely SS had to take the baby away? They'd be vilified if they had information to suggest otherwise and didn't take the baby away! Damned if they do and damned if they don't...

You know ONE person on the spectrum who did that.

One.

Have you actually read the judges summary of the inquest though @CeciliaMars - the LA missed many opportunities to support

Exactly - In some ways I feel we are better mothers as we are so hyper aware and hyper vigilant and attention to detail is so important to me that I’m always trying to go above and beyond but I’m regularly shocked at the assumptions made by others about my parenting capacity

What a sad outcome for everyone. I don’t think SS are to blame for this though. Fern didn’t have her baby removed from her care because she was autistic, it was the other issues that coincided with the autism- the specific mental health issues for example. And that’s important too. SS don’t remove children from their parents just because they’re mentally unwell either, it’s for specific reasons. I’ve got longterm mental health issues and have previously had SS involvement and my children have never been taken from me.

But back to this mother. It’s absolutely tragic and beyond frustrating that had she been given the support she clearly needed much earlier, before the baby, or even pregnancy happened, she would possibly have been in a much better place and none of this would ever happened. She’d be raising her child right now quite happily. It’s a whole load of terrible things that lead to what happened.

That ONE is one too many!

Because all autistic people are a hivemind who exhibit identical behaviours? You are writing fanfiction about an outcome for a dead woman we can't be sure would have happened.

It's clear as decided in the inquest that she didn't receive appropriate support. Reading that article though it sounds fairly inevitable that the child would ultimately be removed and we don't know the contributing reasons for that. It's awful the way she found out but given her disclosures, there is no guarantee the same wouldn't have happened even if she had found out in a more appropriate manner and was given support around it. Very sad case!