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AIBU - Etiquette disembarking plane

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planeetiquette · 19/04/2024 14:30

I recently flew into LA, the flight was jam packed and the overhead lockers filled up quickly so the flight attendants took bags off people and put them wherever they could find space in the lockers.

I was in an aisle seat, and had a connecting flight, so when the seatbelt sign went off I stood up like everyone else, got my carry on out of the overhead locker and waited to disembark.

That's when an American lady from the row in front of me turned to me and said she needed to get past me to get to her luggage and then bring it backto her place in the queue.

I said sorry, that's not going to work as the aisle is really narrow and filled with luggage right now, it'd be best if you sat down and waited until some people have disembarked so there's more space.

She got angry and said "Fine, if you don't move I'm going to BLOCK the aisle. We'll get the flight attendants involved"

It wasn't just her, there was also a group of men in front who needed their luggage from the back of the plane as well and they backed her up (!)

After such a long flight I was over it, and said in my most calm but firm voice:

"Guys, waiting is a fact of life, you're just going to have to sit and wait.

"Your luggage is down the back of the plane. I'm sorry but that's not my fault. This is a very narrow space and I don't know what you want me to do."

In the end the flight attendants never got involved, as someone behind me passed luggage over my head to the lady and the men.

At the time I thought I was in the right (I fly a lot for work). But the more I think about it, is that just how they do it in the US? If you're "ahead" in the rows, you retain the right to get off first even if you're not prepared? If that's the case, I understand why she was angry.

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VestibuleVirgin · 21/04/2024 07:03

Anyone who stands up on a plane as soon as it stops is just pathetic. No point even attempting to get your stuff until the steps/whatever have arrived and the doors opened, otherwise, you stand around in aisle and people barge past trying to get to their case.
People have no idea how to behave; they want to be first off, first to baggage reclaim, etc.
Ignorant behaviour abounds on flights. Especially package holiday ones

notimagain · 21/04/2024 07:03

@Onthehuntstill

Airlines should let passengers with a connection off first.

For info back when I was working on Longhaul flights into/out of a couple of the London airports we’d routinely have something like 30% of passengers (so sometimes 100 plus in numbers per flight ) connecting onwards with us or a code-share partner.

It could be a similar percentage on the same company’s shorthaul services so selectively trying to let all connecting pax off ahead of all the non connectors wasn’t really practical.

We did however know if connections were running tight due to delays (there was actually a department at base that kept an eye on all this) and if possible tried to expedite the disembarkation of those who really were at risk at missing the onwards flight.

dontbelievewhatyousee · 21/04/2024 07:09

I have definitely moved in with my hand luggage to let someone get theirs against the flow before back when I had to fly economy or when the plane was small and had no choice for seating.

OP I think not doing so shows quite low empathy, your choice but that’s what I would perceive if I saw someone declining.

Auburngal · 21/04/2024 07:35

VestibuleVirgin · 21/04/2024 07:03

Anyone who stands up on a plane as soon as it stops is just pathetic. No point even attempting to get your stuff until the steps/whatever have arrived and the doors opened, otherwise, you stand around in aisle and people barge past trying to get to their case.
People have no idea how to behave; they want to be first off, first to baggage reclaim, etc.
Ignorant behaviour abounds on flights. Especially package holiday ones

Then those who do this are the first to board the terminal - plane bus (so to get one of the dozen seats) which means that they will be one of the last to leave it.

As mentioned in a pp - one of these idiots did this on my flight. I had Muttley’s snigger in my head when I turned around and saw him about 70 people behind me!

NeverEnoughPants · 21/04/2024 07:35

What an odd thing to get worked up about.

Surely if you had let her go behind you too get her stuff, you could have taken her place, not allowed her back in front, and got off the plane faster?

Eastcoastie · 21/04/2024 08:33

Its a total pain when your case ends up half way down the plane. I think Y were completely U blocking her trying to get it quickly. What if she had a connection too? Although everyone stands up. Iv always found the etiquette to be if you are in a row infront of people coming down the isle then you can shove out infront of them. If you have been unlucky to have your case shunted half way down the plane then i think its fair fellow passengers should do what they could to help get it up to you or allow you to pass by. Id have sat quietly but next time im going to get up and stand my ground like that lady.

CrispieCake · 21/04/2024 09:16

Totally beside the point of this thread but I like to remain in my seat reading until every other passenger has disembarked and then stroll off the plane in a leisurely fashion. My husband likes to leap into the aisles as soon as the seatbelt sign is off and accounts it a personal failure if he is not amongst the first 10 passengers off the plane.

It is actually a real source of friction in our marriage especially since having DC. Once he apparently "forgot" that we had two small children with us (baby and pre school child) and leapt into the aisle, retrieved his case and out the door without waiting for us. I was left to struggle with the baby in a sling, the travel buggy, the baby bag, older child, older child's bag and my own bag. We just sat and waited until the plane was empty and then a lovely retired couple who were also waiting helped us off. I think they thought I was a single parent, but I took great pleasure in disabusing them of that notion when we eventually caught up with a red-faced DH waiting for us. I thanked them very politely and then let rip. Older child was none too pleased with daddy either and wasn't quiet about it.

Mercurial123 · 21/04/2024 09:59

*Then those who do this are the first to board the terminal - plane bus (so to get one of the dozen seats) which means that they will be one of the last to leave it.

As mentioned in a pp - one of these idiots did this on my flight. I had Muttley’s snigger in my head when I turned around and saw him about 70 people behind me!*

In my experience, the best spot is at the front of the bus, standing up opposite the side of the driver by the door. You will get off the bus first in most cases.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 21/04/2024 11:50

planeetiquette · 19/04/2024 14:52

See my other post, my luggage would still have been blocking the aisle.

I don't believe it was mean, because I believed at the time I had right of way. I was in the queue first and had my luggage ready to go.

You had right of way?! 😂 you asked if you were ridiculous and have been told you were. Can’t bear people that jump up as soon as that light goes on. Don’t book such a tight connecting flight then! Yes you were rude

planeetiquette · 21/04/2024 15:12

Mydietstartstomorrow · 21/04/2024 11:50

You had right of way?! 😂 you asked if you were ridiculous and have been told you were. Can’t bear people that jump up as soon as that light goes on. Don’t book such a tight connecting flight then! Yes you were rude

60% have voted YANBU.

And no I didn’t book it, work did.

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 22/04/2024 08:37

planeetiquette · 21/04/2024 15:12

60% have voted YANBU.

And no I didn’t book it, work did.

And 90% of the people commenting said you were being unreasonable but still you stand on that hill!

planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 09:56

Mydietstartstomorrow · 22/04/2024 08:37

And 90% of the people commenting said you were being unreasonable but still you stand on that hill!

So polls are invalid? Could you elaborate?

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Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 09:59

@planeetiquette because people on the app cannot vote? So the vote is only reflective of people that are using the website.

planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 10:01

Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 09:59

@planeetiquette because people on the app cannot vote? So the vote is only reflective of people that are using the website.

Name change fail my friend. Or you're fixated on this thread?

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Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 10:24

@planeetiquette what on earth are you going on about? I've not changed my name?

You're being totally ridiculous, and making yourself look foolish!

If you are saying this because you asked a question to someone else about the voting, you do realise that in the app you can't quote a second remark, so therefore I answered the question you've asked someone else without quoting?

You really are a very silly billy!

I'm trolling, myself and the other person you questioned are sock puppeting.

Or maybe we both (and at least 40% of website users), think you're wrong.

I'm not sure AIBU is the place for you!

notimagain · 22/04/2024 10:37

A Mumsnet Poll or just toting pros and cons, is going to be pretty meaningless if this happens in the future and the crew actually do end up getting involved..

I certainly wouldn’t rely on cabin crew siding with one particular POV because it’s supposedly etiquette….they might just decide the fault lies with whoever they decide is obviously and deliberately blocking the aisle.

planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 10:42

Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 10:24

@planeetiquette what on earth are you going on about? I've not changed my name?

You're being totally ridiculous, and making yourself look foolish!

If you are saying this because you asked a question to someone else about the voting, you do realise that in the app you can't quote a second remark, so therefore I answered the question you've asked someone else without quoting?

You really are a very silly billy!

I'm trolling, myself and the other person you questioned are sock puppeting.

Or maybe we both (and at least 40% of website users), think you're wrong.

I'm not sure AIBU is the place for you!

So just fixated then? You've been posting the same thing on this thread over and over for several days. Don't you think it might be time to have a day off...?

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Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 10:47

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planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 10:59

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I know, you can keep shouting into the void if you want. Knock yourself out 😂

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PercyJackson · 22/04/2024 11:02

I was on a plane a few months back, flying in to the US, sat near the back. A woman in the back row started kicking off during disembarking because her bag was in a locker further down the plan, and she was adamant that she should be allowed to push past the people in front of her to get her bag. Which she would be passing to get off the plane. Woman in front of her told that she just needed to wait like everyone else, and she could get her bag once people started moving, since nobody was going anywhere until that happened. She was NOT happy, huffed and puffed, complained loudly.

Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 11:03

@planeetiquette I'm loving it....

Especially the people telling you YABU and you arguing back day after day after day.....

planeetiquette · 22/04/2024 11:09

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ZiriForGood · 22/04/2024 11:23

YABU.
The situation when flight attendants have to move stuff is unfortunate and can happen to anyone. There is plenty of time between the seatbelt sign is off and the actual disembark to solve it so the unlucky ones whose stuff was moved can get it back.

When you choose to stand up in the aisle you accept you will be in a narrow space with other people.

Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 11:25

@planeetiquette it's quite simple, I've got one account and other people just disagree with you as well.

MN will confirm. If you ask I am sure.

You need to understand that it's not me in other guises tell you YABU, it's all different people saying it.

I know you want to believe that everyone one thinks you are right, but they don't.

But if it makes you happy in your world to believe that, what can anyone say.

OP- AIBU
Lots of posters - YABU
OP- No I'm not, you're all trolls, sock puppets and all wrong.

It does happen a lot on AIBU.

Noyesnoyes · 22/04/2024 11:26

ZiriForGood · 22/04/2024 11:23

YABU.
The situation when flight attendants have to move stuff is unfortunate and can happen to anyone. There is plenty of time between the seatbelt sign is off and the actual disembark to solve it so the unlucky ones whose stuff was moved can get it back.

When you choose to stand up in the aisle you accept you will be in a narrow space with other people.

@planeetiquette this isn't me! It's another poster FYI. Grin