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Why do people get more anxious as they get older?

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NoisySnail · 17/04/2024 18:21

I know this does not apply to every single individual, but in general people do seem to get more anxious as they get older. And I wondered why? Is it simply a natural thing to happen as you become aware that your body is deteriorating and that simple things such as falling over could have a serious consequence? Or are there other reasons?
Interested to hear anyone's thoughts on this.

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5128gap · 17/04/2024 18:59

Mochaccino99 · 17/04/2024 18:44

Agree with reality and experience. As you get older you get more experience of bad things happening around you, and they go from being things that happen to other people to things that could happen to me. Eg parents and their friends getting old/ill/dying, then your own friends getting cancer or other illnesses/accidents, maybe you/your DP getting an illness etc. You know people who lose their jobs, struggle with money, addiction, mental health issues and realise that these could all happen to you.
Feel anxious just typing this!

I agree with this. I'm 54 and while I wouldn't say I was anxious exactly, I've certainly lost confidence in life in general. I now know that the world is not a nice safe place where good things happen to good people, where well made plans are sure to go well, and where tomorrow is guaranteed. Once you know that, you can't unknow it and everything takes on that little frisson of uncertainty that could quite easily spiral into anxiety.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 17/04/2024 18:59

It depends what we mean by 'older' here, but there is some evidence that empathy does decline with age on average, in a similar way to memory, e.g. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00429-021-02291-y. This sounds like an insulting and ageist generalisation at first, but I think it's actually quite helpful to know that a lot of people are genuinely less able to see things from others' perspectives in old age, and that becoming 'self-centred' and even 'selfish' isn't necessary a choice or a moral failing (just as for young children). Focusing on yourself more can make some people disinhibited, but for a lot of people it makes them a lot more anxious as their ability to engage with the world beyond them shrinks, which is also often reinforced by physical limitations (e.g. declining hearing).

Age-related differences in negative cognitive empathy but similarities in positive affective empathy - Brain Structure and Function

Empathy, among other social-cognitive processes, changes across adulthood. More specifically, cognitive components of empathy (understanding another’s perspective) appear to decline with age, while findings for affective empathy (sharing another’s emot...

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00429-021-02291-y

funinthesun19 · 17/04/2024 19:00

I was thinking about this recently. I’m a very different person now at 34 to who I was ten years ago when I was 24.

I have become more anxious because as time has gone on, more things have happened to me. At 24 I was just beginning proper adulthood and was much more carefree. And now I’ve got an extra 10 years under my belt full of ups and downs. And the downs have all taken their toll on me collectively. So here I am at 34 much more affected by life than I was before.

Plus as time goes on I think health plays a part in it. I think my hormones are much more out of whack than they were years ago, and this sends me plunging in to a nervous wreck. Im a lot more down about my looks too, so my self esteem isn’t as high as it was.

As time goes on we have so much more to think about too. New things to think about like looking after elderly relatives or helping teenage children through their own pain. Things that 10 years ago I didn’t have to give any thought about at all.

Watchkeys · 17/04/2024 19:00

takemeawayagain · 17/04/2024 18:44

I think the older you get the more aware you become of all the things that can go wrong.

This. Pick up a cup 10 times, and your chance of breaking it is considerable lower than if you pick it up 10000 times. Once you break it, you will be anxious about breaking cups when you pick them up.

Add all the experiences that we read about on the news, and you can't do anything without feeling anxious. Don't go to someone's house for a mushroom based meal, for example; too much anxiety.

NoisySnail · 17/04/2024 19:10

I am sorry those on this thread who have had serious illness and/or whose husbands have died. I would think that would increase anxiety in most people because they are tough situations to deal with.

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philosoppee · 17/04/2024 19:23

I'm not sure if it's health related or having that enforced don't-go-out-at-night time over lockdowns. I feel anxious about getting home from nights out these days.

DojaPhat · 17/04/2024 20:11

Age brings a certain world knowledge and life experience. It's not necessarily health-related but life-experience brings some sort of trepidation about jumping in head first.

darwinsfinches · 17/04/2024 20:16

I'm already a huge ball of anxiety in my 30s. So if this is true god help me when I'm in my 70s 😂

ArabellaScott · 17/04/2024 20:21

I've certainly got more anxious since I started reading this thread.

PeaceOnThePorch · 17/04/2024 20:21

5128gap · 17/04/2024 18:29

I think if you're a self aware older person, like my MIL, a lot of anxiety is rooted in the knowledge that many people are going to find some of the things you do and can't help, like walking slowly, not always hearing what's said to you, irritating. MiL gets terribly anxious about this and avoids things where she might cause inconvenience, public transport because 'I take ages getting on and it's not fair on folks' ordering meals 'I don't want the poor woman to keep repeating herself'. Also, very anxious about being a nuisance to doctors, shop staff and so on or generally not knowing whats she's supposed to be doing.

That’s genuinely so sad to read. Has she experienced people being impatient with her or is it just what she imagines they’ll do/think?

If I saw someone not being patient with someone who could only move slowly or needed things repeated etc, I’d be disgusted and say something. I hope she stops caring and can get back out there.

user1471453601 · 17/04/2024 20:35

For me general anxiety comes, I think, from physical anxiety. Someone up thread mentioned this.

My body is failing. I find new things everyday I cannot do which causes me anxiety. if I let it, that anxiety seeps into everything. I have to remind myself sometimes that my physical fragility isn't related to me as a person, my intellect and my inherent worth to people who love me.

It can be hard to cling on to this, sometimes

Beansandneedles · 17/04/2024 20:40

More to lose? More people to consider? 8 years ago I didn't have to worry about anyone but myself, and I lived that to the full. Now I have people to care for and other responsibilities, it's changed my capacity for risk.

Octavia64 · 17/04/2024 20:46

The older you get the more likely bad things have happened either to you or to people you know.

Also, you can see consequences.

My kids used to bomb down steep ski runs that I would go carefully and slowly down, I know how much it hurts when you fall but young kids just seem to bounce!

saraclara · 17/04/2024 20:52

The older you get, the more shit has happened to you. And the more people you feel responsible for and/or worry about. Most of whom you have no control over so can no longer protect.

I'm widowed, both our sets of parents are now dead. I'm (if age is anything to go by) next in line, and I can't bear the thought of the grief and stress that lies ahead for my daughters when I do.

There's more to worry about and less you can do about any of it, in short.

BrightLightTonight · 17/04/2024 20:52

I actually think I am less anxious as I age. I don’t care what other people think of me. I happily go to places as a singleton without a care - theatre, cinema, restaurants etc.
As I age, I am less scared of dying, I am less scared of upsetting other people, less scared of making a fool of myself.
I do worry about frailties, but with age comes wisdom, and I know that worrying about what might happen is a waste of time, worry about was is, and not what might be.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/04/2024 20:52

There are two stages, I think. One is just around 25ish. You go from being a teenage, stupid, reckless idiot (which is all evolutionary BTW) to an adult. Then you adult.

And there's another stage where you turn from an adult, average risk assessment, into an old person. Where falls are serious, you hurt your back more, you don't heal as quickly, you don't bounce, recovery (whether from a fall or a hangover) takes forever. And you naturally get more cautious.

Gettingbysomehow · 17/04/2024 20:53

I'm 62 and I would say I'm about 90% less anxious than I was 40 years ago.

BruFord · 17/04/2024 20:56

I think that the growing sense of your own mortality can make you more anxious, but I also think that life experiences massively influence people.

I’m less anxious at nearly 50, partly because I’m middle-aged and don’t give a shit 😂 but also because my childhood was quite fraught with parental illness/family financial problems so I half expected disasters to hit! Having experienced a more stable adulthood, however, I’ve become less anxious about life, because while I know that bad things can happen, they’re not inevitable, iyswim.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 17/04/2024 20:58

I wonder if acquired experience also contributes. I’m much more aware of how vulnerable I am if mugged/attacked. It’s taken a year for my confidence to return regarding going out and about in daylight let alone the dark. Being mugged for my garage keys at 2pm and realising no one will help and it was only because I managed to twist his cock I managed to get away from him. Years ago I would have trusted I could have punched him down. Now I would have to rely on dumb luck.

On the flip side there is stuff I used to worry w kit which I no longer care about whatsoever.

tinsatape · 17/04/2024 20:59

For me I feel less anxious, I do worry about the health of my elderly parents and sick sibling but overall I am more confident and at peace. However I can understand where people on this thread are coming from. I do use HRT which I think helps a lot.

RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 17/04/2024 21:08

It doesn't happen to everyone.

However menopause, illness and declining health can have huge impacts as can failing memory or just getting confused.

Also though getting in a rut - so life gets busy full of routines and suddenly you have to do something unusual - so DH better at travel as he doe sit much more often and when he does he frequently not got split attention with kids like I have - so I tend to find travel stressful and remember that and get anxious for next time.

Sometime it's people round you - DH gets very impatient and he and MIL can't seem to do repetition - with routes they know or skills - 6 different ways of doing something isn't same as doing something same thing 6 times so you know what you are doing. Constant variation can make it seem more complex than it often is.

Plus other people over confidence can undermine yours - I'm doing an course kids and DH have serval times now demonstrated they think they know what they are talking about but actually don't and know less than I do.

LaPalmaLlama · 17/04/2024 21:10

Irrational anxiety was my main peri symptom (waking up anxious but for no reason or just feeling anxious during the day and as a result not being able to get on with anything) so I think for women some of it can be hormonal. It did go away after I started on HRT.

However, largely it probably is rational and it's due to your awareness of your own creeping physical decline and that that does lead to certain vulnerabilities.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 17/04/2024 21:11

Is it that we realise more and more that the world, and pretty much everything in it, is run haphazardly by imbeciles?

decionsdecisions62 · 17/04/2024 21:19

I'm not. I give less shits. I'm definitely less anxious at 57 than I used to be.

Itsokish · 17/04/2024 21:26

I disagree. I think that my children’s generation are far more anxious than I was when I was their age . Obviously the older you get the more you worry about physical ailments but many younger people are just generally more stressed.
We are living in a rubbish world and SM really doesn’t help !