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"Off rolling" isn't this illegal?

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Stressedgiraffe · 17/04/2024 17:53

My child has been having bullying issues at school and they cannot keep them safe. When we spoke to the school today they mentioned "off rolling" them. I thought it was an odd phrase so have Googled. It seems to be a way of getting rid of problem children without expelling them.
What do we do now? Should we just remove them from school? Will the council help?

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jeaux90 · 18/04/2024 08:13

OP my DD14 is ASD and ADHD.
She was insistent to the extreme over some things. She has had to learn boundaries.

Unfortunately whilst your child is insisting other people refer to them as he, when people can clearly see they are female is going to always create problems for some. It's like expecting self gaslighting in a way, and personally I won't do it either. I really hope your child gets through this as the majority do and accepts themselves as the lovely non conforming girl they are.

The school has acted unfairly totally. I hope a meeting with the head gets a better result.

Pomegranatecarnage · 18/04/2024 10:12

We have a few pupils like your child in our school. They present as girls, usually have an official female name and then a non-binary nickname. They will often wear pins and badges with their pronouns. Some of them also present as “emo”. They are largely ignored by the rest of the learners who tend to view them as a bit self-indulgent but harmless and go around in a group of like-minded peers of varying age groups. I believe it’s a trend or a fad (Deviant Art has a lot to answer for) which attracts a certain type of pupil. If your child is being bullied then there is a problem within the culture of the school which needs to be sorted out.

11NigelTufnel · 18/04/2024 10:40

Some of the victim blaming on here is astonishing. No one should be a target for violence or persecution just because they are different from the norm.

Op what does your child want to do? Do they want to keep going to school, or back yo home school? I think at this age, it is fair that they are driving the decision. Please do report attacks to the police.

Stressedgiraffe · 18/04/2024 10:45

We've contacted the police and are waiting for an appointment with the school liason officer.
He wants to go back to homeschooling. So just need to find the money for that.
He's agreed to repeat Yr 10 as he's missed so much of it.

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MetalFences · 18/04/2024 10:48

They are largely ignored by the rest of the learners who tend to view them as a bit self-indulgent but harmless

And it would be fantastic if all schools could have this delightful atmosphere.

Unfortunately, at my dd's school they are biological boys and her PE lesson and biological boys in the toilets because apparently they might be bullied if they are in the boys toilets or boys PE lessons.

I don't think anybody thinks that anybody should be being bullied.

GallopingGhost · 18/04/2024 11:18

Stressedgiraffe · 18/04/2024 10:45

We've contacted the police and are waiting for an appointment with the school liason officer.
He wants to go back to homeschooling. So just need to find the money for that.
He's agreed to repeat Yr 10 as he's missed so much of it.

My dd was off-rolled at school a few years' ago because of anxiety caused by a bully at school, she also had mental health issues.

If I could go back in time I would have dealt with it differently. Yes, off-rolling is illegal, certainly immoral and goes against OFSTED guidelines. But schools, the local authority, OFSTED don't care and nobody can make them do the right and legal thing and provide an education.

I spent far too long fighting for her legal right to an education, pointless meetings, letters etc. Looking back I should have got a 2nd, 3rd, 4th job to finance home education and tutors (to provide structure and accountability).

Every moment out of education counts at that age, it's not right, you shouldn't have to be doing this but it's the way the world is today. Very few people care. You or your DC didn't cause the problem but you have to be the one to solve it.

My dd eventually got 4 GCSE's, she was expected 11 GCSE's A/B's had she stayed at school as she was in the top sets. 4 GCSE's didn't allow her to go into further education so the authorities then called her a NEET but provided nothing to help. People are quick to judge even when they caused the failure by illegally withdrawing education.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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