"Off rolling" isn't this illegal?

[Stressedgiraffe]

My child has been having bullying issues at school and they cannot keep them safe. When we spoke to the school today they mentioned "off rolling" them. I thought it was an odd phrase so have Googled. It seems to be a way of getting rid of problem children without expelling them.
What do we do now? Should we just remove them from school? Will the council help?

Technically the OP's child and the year seven are both female although maybe the school are thinking that you can't have it both ways. If you decide you are a boy then you are a boy when you punch a girl who is three years younger than you in the face.

Yes, off-rolling is illegal. My child's school got RI when they had an OFSTED and it was discovered that they had off rolled and the head was fired.

Indeed I was respecting the fact that the child identifies as male and as such the parent as well is expecting the school and peers to treat him and a him and as such a he punched a she in the jaw.

No cake and eating should be allowed in such cases.

Yes this is the same child. Hitting a Yr 7 was bad and they were suspended. As I said they are the smaller size than the year 7. And the cctv proved they were hit first.
Going into the school to resolve these issues are when off rolling was mentioned.
My question was can they do this not whether my child did anything wrong they know they did.
The bullying has been systemic for months and they snapped.

Off rolling is illegal.

however why would you want to keep your child in a school that’s failing them miserably and doesn’t want them frankly.

You’d be failing them By keeping them somewhere like that.

I don't know what to do. The other trans boys have been to other schools in the area and say they are just as bad.
They don't help them selves they are very emo. Which also doesn't go down well.
My priority is keeping them safe. Which probably means home schooling again

At a new school in theory would anyone need to know they are trans. Could they not just be another emo kid. Though I know any reason for bullying happens such as emo but it removes the trans part of the bullying. They can truly settle in as James the emo.

and I say this as someone who’s all for keeping women’s bathrooms for biological women. But your Son is no threat to other boys in the boys bathroom. Otherwise wouldn’t normal condone be all keep it secret secret at school type thing.

Unfortunately they want to be addressed as a boy. And look like an emo girl. Really don't pass. They only started at this school this year and it's been a disaster from day one. I naivety thought they could make it through gcses there.

They don't have to be 'threat' what if the boys just don't want a girl in the toilets with them?

Fair point. They should use a unisex/disabled toilet. But either way the world doesn’t have to know know unless they trying to date.

Sounds like there maybe more issues than what’s been posted if they have only moved school in year 10. Why did they leave the last school and are you sure your child isn’t more of the issue than you’d really like to admit.

With the publication of the Cass report, the school will need to tread very carefully here. It is likely that they will wish to avoid being accused of socially transing a child.

Transgender Trend has some resources you may find useful. I would be pushing for mental health support for your child as hard as you can.

If your child is asd and adhd then doesn't the school have a duty to them in respect of their disabilities?

Is there a ringleader/s of the gang and have they been punished for their bullying too?

I have some sympathy for your child. I was bullied at school, and it only stopped when i snapped and hit back.

If the other kid doesn't want consequences they shouldn't bully a vulnerable peer.

Even if they're "more of the issue than the op cares to admit" the LA still has a responsibility to educate the child. They can't just off roll them rather than deal with bullying.

They can fulfill that via many means though the Lea.

They were home schooled since covid so years 7,8,9. I stupidly thought they should be in school years 10 &11 to do their gcses.

Off rolling is illegal. The school should not do it although some try.

You do sound like you are in a difficult situation if the school don't think they can keep your child safe.

Some possibilities which might be options:

Child stays on roll tutors are sent out by the school

Child stays on roll and physically goes to school but is in a separate learning space (Sen dept or equivalent) and has 1:1 support or group lessons

You segregated child and home school - be aware the entrance fees for GCSEs can be substantial so if you are tempted to do this maybe worth discussing with current school about doing GCSEs with them? Some will permit some won't

Does your child have an EHCP?

Sorry, not segregated, de-registered

But op has said that it's obvious child is female, but wants to be seen as male. I don't think it's fair to hide from people they're sharing ablutions and changing areas with someone of the opposite sex in order to appease one person.

Op I have seen a number of teens who are home educated try to fit into the secondary education system

I have not seen a successful one yet.

Some managed to survive in school but most didn't manage.

Teens are extremely socially brutal and secondary schools are not a forgiving environment. Trans is currently an extremely controversial topic (Cass report etc) and your child will stick out.

Are they ND? Can you try to get home tutoring or similar provided through EOTAS if they have an EHCP?

They are autistic have dyslexia and adhd. I haven't looked at ehpc. I thought it was difficult to get.
We'll need to go back to an online school and find the money somehow.

But either way the world doesn’t have to know know unless they trying to date

But it's completely apparent what biological sex year ten children are by looking at them with your eyes.

If we dare complain about the lack of sen support at my child's school we are advised there's plenty of other schools to send our child to.
They let bullying continue and try off roll the victim!

If they are autistic, and have dyslexia and adhd then you have a very good chance of getting an EHCP.

There is a lot of paperwork, but there are organisations to help with filling it in and supporting you,

Try SOSSEN and posting on the SEN boards on here. There is a long running thread for people applying for EHCPs.

It all sounds like a bit of a mess. I realise you don't think the previous incident was relevant but if they themselves have been disciplined for physical assault (whatever the back story) it does affect procedures.

Are they under CAMHs?

I would make a EHCP request the dyslexia/ADHD/ASD are likely educational needs and the school are saying they can't meet your child's needs and keep them safe. This may mean they are educated at home but with LA paying for tuition and exam fees rather than being home scored where it days to you. Or they might be in a small specially resources provision setting for children with emotional difficulties who can't attend mainstream see you in a bit Sony love you darlingif there is one in your area.

They sound more like a tomboy. Which is normal. It seems ridiculous that they should be bullied out of school. Are the school not ashamed they can’t stop their pupils from bullying another child?

Is there not a school somewhere nearish that has a stricter ethos and won’t tolerate bullying? Or a school that is better equipped to support a child with what seems to be a range of SEN?
Have you tried asking your local authority for an EHC assessment at least?