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Why are people using the made up word rapey?

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BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 21:39

It diminishes a violent act that is so awful for the victims. It is rape.

If someone is behaving in a way that appears it might lead to rape then they are potential abusers or appearing capable of assault. They are not yet rapists.

Remember when Kiddy fiddler was used to discuss sexual abuse of children? That was insulting too.

If you use the word, why?

I suppose my AIBU question is am I over reacting but tbh I feel what I do and if you disagree that is fine too. I'm seeing it used more and more on here.

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anothernamitynamenamechange · 16/04/2024 23:22

People can use it in a way that makes sense "that man saying he thinks women always say no when they mean yes comes across a bit rapey" or in a way that is wildly hyperbolic "He asked for my number, seems a bit rapey" or just bizarre "do you think purple scarves on men give of a rapey vibe?"

Just like "red flag" and lots of other words as well.

I really don't like when the actual word rape is cheapened. E.g. I can remember "facebookrape" as a term for someone hacking their friends facebook account and posting embarrasing stuff. Or being used as a term for being badly beaten in a video game. But I cant police language anyway so 🙄

StormingNorman · 16/04/2024 23:23

I don’t think it diminishes rape. It’s a quick and concise way of describing worrying behaviour and alerting other women to it.

It does sound more light-hearted than something like ‘displaying predatory behaviours’ but I think that helps the message get through and be taken more seriously (although I couldn’t explain why).

Pippa246 · 16/04/2024 23:25

I agree OP and have thought this for a long time but I can’t articulate why. It’s like “rapey” is being used in place of “letchy” or “creepy” etc but it just makes me feel like rape is being treated the same as someone leering at you - which is also horrible but not the same as rape.

Minfilia · 16/04/2024 23:25

I used this term to describe a bloke I met through work a couple of years back.

He made me very uncomfortable from the moment I met him. He made my blood turn cold. And, as it turns out, he made every other woman I worked with who came across him feel exactly the same way.

When I said I didn’t like him and was asked to articulate why… it wouldn’t have felt right to say “because he gives off a vibe like he’s raped someone” but that’s exactly how I felt about him. So I just side stepped it a bit with an “I don’t know… he comes across as creepy and a bit rapey”. I also said that I never wanted to be left alone with him (and again, as it turns out, my female colleagues felt the same).

Anyway, he was fired from his job due to his hatred of women and disrespect for his female colleagues, so clearly there was something off with him. But me saying “I think he’s a rapist” would have made me look crazy. Me saying “he’s a bit rapey” deflected from my own discomfort I suppose, but also got my point across in a slightly less aggressive sounding (and more jocular) way.

You are right though. It isn’t something to be trivialised. But in my case it’s genuinely how I felt about him - I just couldn’t say it!

anothernamitynamenamechange · 16/04/2024 23:27

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

THAT I hate. I think some men use the word in their everyday language almost to sound edgy and get over-used to it. But also men constantly comparing themselves to rapists like that/joking about being rapists is itself (apologies to you and original poster) a bit rapey.

WibblyWobblyWeeble · 16/04/2024 23:27

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 21:50

@Pipecleanerrevival i think it is a given that everyone is appalled by rape and I am capable of having more than one thought, feeling at a time.

@MrsO3 exactly.

It infuriates you because it does diminish the seriousness of rape @Springbunbun .

I wonder if any of the posters who are using the word have actually been raped or know anyone who has.

I use it and yes, I have.

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 23:31

I am sorry @WibblyWobblyWeeble 💐

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Rosestulips · 16/04/2024 23:37

I agree, I don’t like it either. Hate the way slang develops into common vocabulary because more and more people are hearing it and can’t think of a different word

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 16/04/2024 23:40

Pipecleanerrevival · 16/04/2024 21:41

save your affrontedness for the act of rape. This is a waste of your outrage.

Rubbish.

Anything that diminishes the grossness of the act by changing the word should be an affront to us all.

Josette77 · 16/04/2024 23:41

I am a child rape victim.

I use the word to describe men who I legit think could rape someone. They haven't raped me, but I am uncomfortable and they have a rapey vibe to them. Or they say things that are rapey.

Trust me I am not ever using it to deminish rape. I know what it's like to lose your innocence far too young to a heinous unforgivable crime. I'll never get my innocence and feeling of safety back.

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 23:50

Pippa246 · 16/04/2024 23:25

I agree OP and have thought this for a long time but I can’t articulate why. It’s like “rapey” is being used in place of “letchy” or “creepy” etc but it just makes me feel like rape is being treated the same as someone leering at you - which is also horrible but not the same as rape.

I don't think letchy & creepy carry the same level of threat tbh. A man can be those things without being dangerous, just gross. There is no other way of taking the word 'rapey', it suggests a potential threat or is used in an awareness way like 'oof, mate, that was a bit rapey'.

PickAChew · 16/04/2024 23:51

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

That is completely different, though. Shitty but different.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 16/04/2024 23:55

I agree

and wonder if you read the same post as I did this evening when the word was used at least twice to describe someone's actions / behaviour.

CombatBarbie · 17/04/2024 00:17

GrumpyOldCrone · 16/04/2024 21:51

I don’t read it as minimising rape. I read it as indicating that a man’s behaviour is the sort of behaviour that makes one suspect he might be a rapist. Which, unfortunately, many of them are.

This with bells on.... And I say it as a rape survivor.

Shan5474 · 17/04/2024 01:17

I feel a little bit the opposite actually, like it brings a bit more weight to conversations about shit male behaviour. It does have a lighthearted feel but it links the behaviour to sexual assault which might mean it’s taken more seriously, rather than just describing it as shit/not OK.
At least it’s being used in a relevant context, not like Facebook rape, and I’m pretty sure it used to be used as a gaming term when beating opponents which is horrible

RogueFemale · 17/04/2024 01:29

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:04

See dodgy or creepy would be a word to use in those circumstances @Caerulea and I suspect a lot more palatable and less triggering for those who have been raped.

@SaltyGod 💐I am so sorry you've been raped. You are absolutely right. There are so many other words that could be used.

I don't see how dodgy or creepy is any better than rapey, and dodgy/creepy are far less descriptive.

I have no problem with the word rapey. If a woman warned me about a man saying he's 'rapey', I'd know more what to expect than 'dodgy'.

RogueFemale · 17/04/2024 01:41

@BirthdayRainbow I wonder if any of the posters who are using the word have actually been raped or know anyone who has.

I think you now know the answer is yes. 'Date rape' and casual sexual abuse used to be almost a given 40 years ago. I don't even think of myself as a victim, just, that's the shit that happened to me and to all my female friends.

JanglingJack · 17/04/2024 01:49

With regard to 'kiddy fiddler' - a sickening phrase - it's not the kiddy that bothers me, it's the word fiddle.
Fiddle just sounds innocent, and it is - I was just fiddling with the TV remote...
I was just fiddling with a child.
Just awful.

Words are always be like this. A bit rapey, a bit OCD, a bit autistic...

YANBU @BirthdayRainbow

Devonshiregal · 17/04/2024 02:03

Springbunbun · 16/04/2024 21:46

As a rape survivor this new tree in terminology infuriates me i don’t know why it does but it seems to me that the word reduces the seriousness of rape and the lasting effect it has ..,, like “he seems a bit rapey” is being used around my social media for guys asking the time from a woman at a bus stop.

This isn’t new terminology, it’s been used for decades. It also doesn’t talk about a rapist, it talks about a man who behaves in a way that makes your spidey senses tingle and you wouldn’t trust alone because you imagine given half the chance he’d do something untoward, up to and including rape. But it is extreme to go around saying that man “seems like a rapist” because they’ve not yet done anything actually pinpointable as assault or misconduct.

it’s a descriptive term and it being accepted amongst women gives us a good way to warn other women of a man who has our instincts screaming without actually having logical reason for it, or at least much evidence of someone who would commit a crime. I think it’s apt in this context.

if someone was raped but the police, for example, called it “oh he was a bit rapey with her”, then of course that would be diminishing!

edited to add that in your context of the bus stop, if you remove the word rapey from the lexicon a woman standing there might feel to ott thinking “he feels like a sex offender” simply for having been asked the time. This would have her second guessing herself. Using the term rapey is exactly describing the vibe she gets from this person without having to have any justification for it. Sleazy wouldn’t be apt, that can just mean a man who sleeps around and cracks on to everyone without crossing the line into assault. Pervy? Maybe. But also less serious, perhaps just a grotesque man to avoid but again maybe not an offender.

For me, about 15 years ago when I moved into a shared house, a man there came across incredibly well…but he felt sinister and ‘rapey’. I distinctly remembering my friend whispering when he left the room-I don’t know why, but he feels a bit…rapey? And we both knew that we felt something seriously off about him. But she had felt ashamed to say it because it was accusing a perfectly nicely presenting man of being a sex offender. The -y on the end softened the accusation just enough for her to have the confidence to share that with me (we were strangers at the time).

anyway, he did turn out to be a sex offender and I’m glad we were able to share our concerns in a quick, shared language manner and work as a team to figure him out and keep each other safe. It was a tough period of time.

this is not the only time this has happened and for transparency, I too have been SA’d/rped more than once (sadly I’m sure most women on here have)

of course you are entitled to feel how you feel and can see how the -y might make it sound flippant but I just wanted to explain the reasons I feel differently and more positively about it.

Shoutinglagerlagerlager · 17/04/2024 03:09

I think ‘predatory’ or ‘sexually aggressive’ get the message across better. I cringe when I read/hear the word ‘rapey’.

Lostsadandconfused · 17/04/2024 03:33

The only time I have ever used that word is in discussion of the books and later TV series Outlander. I can’t stand it, didn’t watch it. When pressed as to why (when it seems universally adored by women) all I can say is ‘ummm.. it’s a bit rapey for my taste’.

I could say ‘it contains far too many instances of rape and sexual abuse used as gratuitous plot points and I find it triggering’, but I don’t want to go into that much detail.

And yes, I was a victim of what used to be called ‘date rape’ when I was in my teens.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 17/04/2024 03:50

Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. It definitely is a thing though, maybe it's better to say predatory in a sexual manner. Haven't we all met men that set off our danger sense and made you think "yes he could definitely rape someone."

HeadsShouldersTitsandArse · 17/04/2024 04:05

I agree, using the term ‘rapey’ to describe someone who hasn’t actually committed any SA is disgusting and wrong, it’s accusing and it’s also minimising for actual victims.

That said, I can see how it would be used in situations where something is perhaps said that insinuated bad intention? My friend met a bloke on a night out once who brought her few a drinks and when it was joked about that she would be drunk soon, he made a comment about that being the intention so that he can take her home - which is what I’d probably call ‘rapey’ - I guess because of the insinuating that by her being drunk she can’t make a very informed choice to go home with him? The underlying feeling that he feels drunk consent is adequate consent. The calculating. He didn’t rape her, but his comment was that of someone who may rape someone so the word ‘rapey’ feels less accusing and more warning? I’m not sure… but it’s definitely used too much, I’ve seen people call others ‘rapey’ just based on their looks! 🥲

abracadabra1980 · 17/04/2024 04:18

I agree. Awful, slang expression.

5YearsLeft · 17/04/2024 04:25

I never thought of it as “cutesy.” It is in several dictionaries at this point (I understand Googling could be triggering) as the informal but adjective form of rape. It suggests something beyond “creepy” or “dodgy,” as the dictionary definitions point out.

Oxford Languages says, “sexually aggressive or inappropriate in a way that causes fear or unease.” Since the statistics about women who have been victims of sexual assault and rape are so high, I would assume that a lot of the women using it have been assaulted. They (or at least the ones I know) are thus referring to an action or person that they believe has the real potential for sexual aggression. That’s how I’ve heard it used around me - not in this pejorative “a little bit rapey” way that’s been mentioned.

Maybe many of us (I admit I almost thought the same way) feel it shouldn’t be used to describe a man being a bit flirty at a bus stop. But IF this was the beginning of someone’s past sexual assault, then obviously they will see it in a different light and may well use the word.

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