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Why are people using the made up word rapey?

119 replies

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 21:39

It diminishes a violent act that is so awful for the victims. It is rape.

If someone is behaving in a way that appears it might lead to rape then they are potential abusers or appearing capable of assault. They are not yet rapists.

Remember when Kiddy fiddler was used to discuss sexual abuse of children? That was insulting too.

If you use the word, why?

I suppose my AIBU question is am I over reacting but tbh I feel what I do and if you disagree that is fine too. I'm seeing it used more and more on here.

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Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream · 16/04/2024 22:10

I have been a victim. And I don’t have a problem with the term (albeit it has the potential to be misused, much like gaslighting has been). I think it captures behaviour that is indicative of a predatory nature or might lead one to believe the person might commit an offence.

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 22:11

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:04

See dodgy or creepy would be a word to use in those circumstances @Caerulea and I suspect a lot more palatable and less triggering for those who have been raped.

@SaltyGod 💐I am so sorry you've been raped. You are absolutely right. There are so many other words that could be used.

It's only been recently I've been able to type the word & frankly even in wordle I avoid anything that could wind up with the letters '_rape' on the screen, cos it happened once & it was really triggering. So please do not assume things about me, or anyone for that matter, it's breathtakingly disrespectful & I was not being so to you.

And no, neither dodgy or creepy are strong enough & the usage is too old.

Anotherparkingthread · 16/04/2024 22:17

It's fucking horrible isn't it. I saw it used on another thread earlier and it made me raise an eyebrow but I didn't reply to that post. I thought everything you are saying when I read it.

Massively disrespectful to victims of rape, it belittles the seriousness of the crime and it's lasting effects.

YankSplaining · 16/04/2024 22:17

GrumpyOldCrone · 16/04/2024 21:51

I don’t read it as minimising rape. I read it as indicating that a man’s behaviour is the sort of behaviour that makes one suspect he might be a rapist. Which, unfortunately, many of them are.

Yeah, exactly. Like, “I used to be a big fan of Celebrity X, until he made that rapey ‘joke’ about giving women enough drinks to make them ‘friendly.’”

Casmama · 16/04/2024 22:20

I don't like it as I do think it minimises and the "bit" indicating a scale doesn't sit right with me.
I think predatory is a better word to use which conveys the same meaning

Sometimeswinning · 16/04/2024 22:26

Language changes. The amount of kids who describe people as paedos for even looking their way. I don’t believe it diminishes the act. PTSD is thrown about. OCD, I’m a bit autistic/adhd, I have anxiety. The list is endless.

I have 3 children and work in a school. Maybe I’m just immune to hearing it all now.

Doteycat · 16/04/2024 22:28

Pipecleanerrevival · 16/04/2024 21:41

save your affrontedness for the act of rape. This is a waste of your outrage.

No its not.
Language matters.

YankSplaining · 16/04/2024 22:30

“Creepy” and “dodgy” don’t really communicate the same thing. Is your neighbor “creepy” because he tries to lure children into his house, or “creepy” because he puts up the goriest Halloween decorations and has a zombie tattooed on his arm?

As an American, my first exposure to the word “dodgy” was in Harry Potter books, where it wasn’t being used to describe anything sexually predatory at all. Like, “Don’t eat that sweet - I think it’s one of Fred and George’s dodgy ones that explodes.”

thisfilmisboring123 · 16/04/2024 22:34

GoodVibesHere · 16/04/2024 22:04

See I think this is the problem. Rape is rape. There is something dangerous about making rape sound like there is a scale. 'A bit rapey'. No. There is raped or not raped.

But people aren’t using ‘rapey’ to describe an actual rape

WonderfulUsername · 16/04/2024 22:35

I think 'creepy' and 'dodgy' are even more minimising when it comes to describing sexual predatory behaviour.

Haunted houses are creepy, Del Boy is dodgy.

Neither of those things point towards a potential rapist.

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:38

@Chocolatepeanutbuttercupsandicecream I am sorry you have even a victim 💐. I absolutely respect you right to not mind the term and actually while I can't articulate why, that does help me and I thank you for your post.

@Caerulea I absolutely wasn't assuming anything and I am sorry if I have upset you. I was talking from my point of view that those words would be more palatable for me and potentially others. I was meaning that dodgy and predatory were words that could describe behaviour that wasn't rape. I feel there has been misunderstandings but I still genuinely apologise for upset I have caused you.

I was not saying that creepy and dodgy were alternatives to rape.

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BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:39

@Caerulea I have had a look and I think I slightly misread your first post so again, apologies.

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AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 16/04/2024 22:42

All words start off made up. The word ‘smog’ didn’t exist 150 years ago. They needed a new word so they made one. Most of us know what ‘smog’ means.

Most of us can get the gist of ‘rapey’.

I’ve never heard an actual rapist referred to as rapey.

I've heard sexually aggressive behaviour referred to as rapey. Or coercive language as rapey. Or specific creepy behaviour, stuff that ‘creepy’ doesn’t quite fully convey because there’s a sexual undertone, as rapey.

I don’t think it diminishes the word ‘rape’. I don’t think it’s a flippant word. I’ve not heard it used in any way other than to warn people off someone who is felt to be a cause for concern, and to be avoided.

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:46

@AllThePotatoesAreSinging I am not saying that rapey is used to describe a rapist and you can't compare making up a word to describe weather with a violent act. I know words evolve. I'm just saying I don't like it and wonder why people use it and not any number of established words to describe a man who is behaving in a way that is threatening.

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TheOriginalEmu · 16/04/2024 22:49

All words are made up. ‘Rapey’ is a natural linguistic progression word in the same vein as ‘movie’ or ‘jumpy’. The pictures moved so they were movies, you made me jump so I am jumpy. You seem like you might be capable of rape so you’re rapey. On a purely linguistic level it’s very normal and common to do this.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 16/04/2024 22:52

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:46

@AllThePotatoesAreSinging I am not saying that rapey is used to describe a rapist and you can't compare making up a word to describe weather with a violent act. I know words evolve. I'm just saying I don't like it and wonder why people use it and not any number of established words to describe a man who is behaving in a way that is threatening.

It’s fine you don’t like it, but this is what language does.

It’s a way of conveying a lot on information into a short word. That was my point in using the example I chose. There’s not really a similar word, or not one sufficiently charged that I can think of off the top of my head, which is probably why ‘rapey’ is being used.

TheOriginalEmu · 16/04/2024 22:55

I have been raped and I don’t have an issue with the word. I agree with a PP that I think it’s actually good that it makes people aware what you mean when you say a person is dodgy.
I also don’t really see how it diminishes rape.

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:57

I find your post interesting @TheOriginalEmu , thank you.

It is disappointing @OkPedro . Normalising the word in so much as casualness as in your example is worrying.

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betterangels · 16/04/2024 22:58

GrumpyOldCrone · 16/04/2024 21:56

Interesting. I don’t find it cutesy, but we all hear things differently. To me, it acknowledges that a surprisingly large proportion of men are actual rapists who depend on plausible deniability to get away with it.

Agree with this.

chattyness · 16/04/2024 23:11

I've also been raped and don't feel there is anything wrong with the term rapey, to me it's a red flag indicator about a person's behaviour, useful knowledge that would help me keep my distance from them for my own safeguarding IYSWIM As others have said language develops , it's not at all cutesy in my opinion.

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 23:13

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 22:39

@Caerulea I have had a look and I think I slightly misread your first post so again, apologies.

It's easily done, especially on such an emotive subject 💐

Caerulea · 16/04/2024 23:14

OkPedro · 16/04/2024 22:56

Totally agree.
A man who I thought was a decent fella said to me the other day "Ah I was sweating like a rapist" wtf! It just goes to show how long people have gotten away with using language like that they don't even try to hide it..

Yeah see that sets my teeth on edge

BridgertonFan · 16/04/2024 23:14

I don’t think it diminishes anything. It’s a very fitting word for some men.

BirthdayRainbow · 16/04/2024 23:16

I am finding that posters who have been raped but say they don't find the word offensive in the same way that I do is actually quite illuminating so I appreciate your comments.

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