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To think that the mother/daughter duo who took Michaela to court should face some natural consequences?

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KTheGrey · 16/04/2024 15:27

Apparently the mother involved wants to send her younger child to the school she finds so unsatisfactory in September. I don't think this is reasonable. I understand the logic of leaving a child at a school where they are established, but she should be expected to find a school she likes better for a younger sibling, surely.

She also intends to bring another suit, presumably tax payer funded again. I think that she should be expected to pay in full for any further suit she brings against the school. She could apply for costs if she wins.

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Soubriquet · 16/04/2024 15:28

I’m not sure about this story? What is she suing for?

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neverendingcold · 16/04/2024 15:29

I don't think the younger child should be penalised for their mother/ older child's court case. I also think it should be allowed to raise court cases within reason and not be punished for it

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TheShellBeach · 16/04/2024 15:31

Could you link to whatever this story is?

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BoohooWoohoo · 16/04/2024 15:31

I don’t know the story but it’s possible for a school to be great for one child but not another.

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MidnightPatrol · 16/04/2024 15:32

IMO it’s a fair challenge re: ‘should you have the freedom to practice your religion at school’.

And I say that as an atheist.

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KrisAkabusi · 16/04/2024 15:32

Come on, give us a clue. Even a full name, if you can't link to a story!

FFS.

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Sandwichblock · 16/04/2024 15:33

I think it was an important case and am a little surprised at the outcome TBH, but we need people to bring cases like this and "test" the law from time to time.

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makeanddo · 16/04/2024 15:39

Not surprised by the outcome of this case, it's the right decision. Disgusted that it was taxpayer funded. Hope the school doesn't give place to younger child. Why would someone so religious send their child to a secular school when there are so many faith schools in London?

There is NO requirement did a child to pray at school. If you want your child to do it then find a school that offers it.

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MuggedByReality · 16/04/2024 15:41

This case is an excellent example of how English Common Law works.

It was reasonable for the pupil & her mother to challenge the school’s secular policy, but the judgement which backed the school’s right to set its own rules was the correct one and should set an important precedent for the education sector. The family can now choose where to send the younger child knowing that Michaela’s policy isn’t going to change.

I wonder if the pupil intends to pursue a legal career?

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FloofyBird · 16/04/2024 15:45

People can feel a rule is discriminatory without finding the school as a whole unsatisfactory.

What is the other suit you allege she is going to bring?

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KTheGrey · 16/04/2024 15:47

MidnightPatrol · 16/04/2024 15:32

IMO it’s a fair challenge re: ‘should you have the freedom to practice your religion at school’.

And I say that as an atheist.

I don't think there should be any religious worship at school. (Also an atheist, raised Very Christian - lots of worship). You can practise your religion (worship) in your non-work time.

Also Michaela makes it clear they will not cater to ANY religious requests. They have extra revision on Sunday, eggs touch the plates etc. So you sign up going in.

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KrisAkabusi · 16/04/2024 15:47

What consequences should she/they face? The school made a change to their policy that they did not agree with. A court ruled that the school had the right to impose that aspect. Life now goes on as normal. They didn't do anything wrong by bringing the case, everyone has a right to test rules in the courts. It's how the whole system works. Are you now proposing they should be punished just because you don't like it?

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KTheGrey · 16/04/2024 15:49

KrisAkabusi · 16/04/2024 15:47

What consequences should she/they face? The school made a change to their policy that they did not agree with. A court ruled that the school had the right to impose that aspect. Life now goes on as normal. They didn't do anything wrong by bringing the case, everyone has a right to test rules in the courts. It's how the whole system works. Are you now proposing they should be punished just because you don't like it?

I don't think they made a change. I think that the no religious stuff is made clear when you sign up.

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KrisAkabusi · 16/04/2024 15:49

So you sign up going in.

No. The posted article says the rule was only introduced in March last year. So there were hundreds of students that had a new rule imposed on them without having that choice. Hence the case.

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neilyoungismyhero · 16/04/2024 15:49

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Teentaxidriver · 16/04/2024 15:52

It is a SECULAR school, and always has been. They knew what kind of school it was when they joined. Yet another example of minority groups expecting special treatment.

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Teentaxidriver · 16/04/2024 15:53

If she wants to pray during the school day then go to an appropriate faith school.

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KrisAkabusi · 16/04/2024 15:53

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Again, the rule was brought in after over a thousand students had enrolled. Also, why shouldn't they be allowed to send another child? They are making an informed choice now that he court has clarified that prayers won't be allowed. Or are you suggesting that the other child should be banned from the school for a sibling daring to make a perfectly legal challenge?
And congratulations on being self-aware enough to know you're becoming a racist.

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Sandwichblock · 16/04/2024 15:54

Has anyone actually read the article? 30 students had been praying regularly in their lunch break. The school introduced a ban after being concerned about threats.

I don't think the school was wrong, I am a little surprised, but pleased the court upheld it, but it was definitely a change.

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Teentaxidriver · 16/04/2024 15:54

The family is being funded by lobby groups and foreign interest groups coming out of countries like Iran. Did you not see the headlines re: back door blasphemy laws? People need to wake up.

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Boomer55 · 16/04/2024 15:55

We should be like France. No faith schools, any faith, ,and all education to be secular.

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KTheGrey · 16/04/2024 15:56

neverendingcold · 16/04/2024 15:29

I don't think the younger child should be penalised for their mother/ older child's court case. I also think it should be allowed to raise court cases within reason and not be punished for it

How do you define reasonable and do you think the taxpayer should pay for these suits?

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gloriagloria · 16/04/2024 15:57

The rule was introduced after the children had started at the school. And they were praying the the playground, not demanding special consideration or asking for anything. The only thing against the school rules were they were gathering in groups of more than four.

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EasternStandard · 16/04/2024 15:57

Teentaxidriver · 16/04/2024 15:54

The family is being funded by lobby groups and foreign interest groups coming out of countries like Iran. Did you not see the headlines re: back door blasphemy laws? People need to wake up.

I haven’t followed this at all is it funded by tax payer (legal aid?) or this

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