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Cleaner told me off

170 replies

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 12:59

I usually get to work early to get ready for the day as it's easier for me after a long ish commute. The work toilets are separate large cubicles with a toilet and sink in each one so I take my make up bag into work and usually spend 15-20 mins in one before I go into the office.

This morning I got ready at work as usual and as I left the cleaner was leaning on the main door waiting for me to come out so he could go in and clean. I had left some rubbish (an empty paper bag and a napkin) on top of the bin as the bin lid wasn't working when I pressed the foot pedal.

The cleaner looked annoyed as I left and then went into the cubicle. I had only walked a few steps down the corridor before he called me back shouting "lady lady!" And then beckoned me into the toilet, gestured at the rubbish saying "this is you - these are clean toilets" and picked up the rubbish and put it on top of my handbag then picked up some paper towels from the floor and stuffed them onto the top of my bag as well whilst complaining.

I was so shocked and embarrassed I took the rubbish and walked away and put it in another bin. I felt really stressed like he's going to report me to building services or something. The toilet was clean it was just the rubbish on top of the bin and I think he was annoyed waiting outside for a while. WABU?

OP posts:
Janetime · 16/04/2024 17:26

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 17:20

It's not a reverse he didn't have anything else to do at that time so was waiting and admittedly getting fed up as she was taking a really long time then annoyed she had left it in the state she had.

Can you make your mind up?

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 17:32

Sorry typo it is a reverse! The post is about my partner and an incident he had at work

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Akamai · 16/04/2024 17:33

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 17:32

Sorry typo it is a reverse! The post is about my partner and an incident he had at work

Ok, phew.

Megifer · 16/04/2024 17:40

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 17:20

It's not a reverse he didn't have anything else to do at that time so was waiting and admittedly getting fed up as she was taking a really long time then annoyed she had left it in the state she had.

He's extremely lucky it was her rubbish,it could have been anyones from the day before.

Tell him to stop hanging around outside ladies toilets when there's a lone female in there who is also the only female on that floor at the time. It's creepy behaviour. And once again its sweet fuck all to do with him why or how long she was in there.

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 17:46

@Megifer plenty of posters on this thread made it clear they didn't think work toilets should be used as a "salon" or used for that length of time though.

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redalex261 · 16/04/2024 17:51

Yep. Bin your own rubbish. BTW, is your 15min make up session counted as part of your working day or in your own time????

grinandslothit · 16/04/2024 17:54

I'm kind of mixed on this. Did your husband not have anything else to do besides wait on the woman to be finished?

Also, him taking the rubbish and putting it in her bag is rather aggressive. He is touching her personal property.

burnttoad · 16/04/2024 18:01

@AlwaysGinPlease @Applescruffle
Of course it's a reverse. You seem to have forgotten this is an anonymous thread. If you don't like the responses you don't need to make up fake reverses. You just don't come back

burnttoad · 16/04/2024 18:03

MN hilarity. When it's her leaving rubbish then she's the bad one. When she reveals it's a reverse suddenly people decide the cleaner is the bad one. So typical MN

Megifer · 16/04/2024 18:05

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 17:46

@Megifer plenty of posters on this thread made it clear they didn't think work toilets should be used as a "salon" or used for that length of time though.

Doesn't matter op, tell your male partner to stop taking such an interest in how long a female takes in the toilet and what shes doing in there.

If it's an issue her employer will address it with her.

Akamai · 16/04/2024 18:14

Megifer · 16/04/2024 18:05

Doesn't matter op, tell your male partner to stop taking such an interest in how long a female takes in the toilet and what shes doing in there.

If it's an issue her employer will address it with her.

He’s got a job to do, probably with lots of equipment to move around and a deadline to be finished by.

So of course he’s going to be interested in the toilets being freed so he can get in there.

Megifer · 16/04/2024 18:18

burnttoad · 16/04/2024 18:03

MN hilarity. When it's her leaving rubbish then she's the bad one. When she reveals it's a reverse suddenly people decide the cleaner is the bad one. So typical MN

Not really. It's completely changed now from someone admitting they left rubbish to a cleaner somehow knowing the female was the only female in the office, being certain it was her rubbish, putting it on her bag, knowing what she does in there, standing outside the toilets, and timing her

So not typical MN at all. If it was her rubbish that's not cool, but the cleaner comes out way worse in this new situation.

Megifer · 16/04/2024 18:21

Akamai · 16/04/2024 18:14

He’s got a job to do, probably with lots of equipment to move around and a deadline to be finished by.

So of course he’s going to be interested in the toilets being freed so he can get in there.

It's absolutely nothing to do with him. The female can sit in there having a half hour shit if she wants. If necessary he can inform his employer that he couldn't complete his tasks for that day.

Birch101 · 16/04/2024 18:25

If you cannot put rubbish inside a bin for whatever reason you take it with you, be it a sanitry bin (you could have used another cubicles bin) at the park, outside a shop, the beach etc

Akamai · 16/04/2024 18:34

Megifer · 16/04/2024 18:21

It's absolutely nothing to do with him. The female can sit in there having a half hour shit if she wants. If necessary he can inform his employer that he couldn't complete his tasks for that day.

Equally it’s nothing to do with her if he waits outside. He can stand where he wants.

Megifer · 16/04/2024 18:42

Akamai · 16/04/2024 18:34

Equally it’s nothing to do with her if he waits outside. He can stand where he wants.

Sure he can wait outside a females toilet waiting for her to come out, know exactly what she's doing in there and how long, shove what may or may not be her rubbish in her bag, and know she's she only female on the floor. If he really wants. Creepy AF though.

That situation would be interesting in october when the new anti harassment legislation comes out. There will be a few test cases to determine exactly what third party harassment in the workplace is. Especially as harassment is defined by how it makes the person feel rather than the intention behind it.

Hopefully his employer will provide the training so he doesn't put himself at potential risk of an accusation again.

Mimilamore · 16/04/2024 18:43

He is a cleaner not your servant. His job probably gets checked and pays minimum wage... show some respect, with out the toilet cleaners businesses would fold...

ButterflyKu · 16/04/2024 21:59

ForestFawn · 16/04/2024 14:38

And it was so obviously drafted in a way to make the other person look bad that I assumed you were a troll. That’s why reverses are a pain!

Oh fgs😕

FiveShelties · 16/04/2024 22:21

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 14:33

Thank you all for the replies.

I know this isn't really allowed but this is a reverse - the cleaner is my partner. He told me what happened and worried he was unreasonable but I've shown him this thread and he feels a lot better.

Of course it is🤔

GoldenTrout · 23/04/2024 00:00

PremiumRaa · 16/04/2024 16:37

@Megifer he said she was the first one in there this morning. It's a quiet floor and most people don't arrive until 9am she was early.

If she was first in, how did the stuff on the floor get there? And how did your partner know that she hadn't left that stuff?

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