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Would you hire someone visibly anorexic?

349 replies

Ncncncncc · 13/04/2024 12:47

I’m looking for honest (even if brutal) answers.

OP posts:
Janetime · 13/04/2024 21:09

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 13/04/2024 21:07

@Janetime I know what visually very underweight looks like, how do you know how they got there?

We are not talking about visibly under weight, we are discussing visibly anorexic. I understand you may not have ever seen it, and are as such confused, but the op is not and neither am I.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 13/04/2024 21:13

@Janetime I'm not confused thanks for the concern. I have worked in settings with anorexic patients, I have also had a family member with undiagnosed crohns being told she had IBS while she lost 5 stone and her menstruation stopped and her GP refused to believe she wasn't anorexic until she collapsed and was taken to a&e. I've also worked with long term substance misusers who have done so much damage to their bodies that even once sober they just cannot maintain weight, they are capable of working. My aunt after prolonged chemo and cancer treatment took nearly 3 years to get back to anything approaching healthy looking. You can't judge solely on appearance.

pam290358 · 13/04/2024 21:15

fieldsofbutterflies · 13/04/2024 20:42

What happens if the role you can offer only covers limited hours when that person used to work full-time? Are they obliged to accept? Can they sue you for discrimination if you only offer limited hours going forward?

Never came across that situation. Generally, if you take office work as an example, if you have say six employees, including the disabled person, it should be possible to take out and reassign the more physical aspects of that one job, and swap in desk based duties taken from staff across the board so that the work is evenly distributed. It does require looking at everyone’s duties in the first instance to see if it’s reasonable and doable.

If the employer genuinely couldn’t make up another full time post and offered a modified part time post instead, then l think they’ve fulfilled their obligation for reasonable adjustment as far as possible. The employee wouldn’t be obliged to accept it, but l don’t think it would be seen as discriminatory if the employer had made the effort to explore all the options available. Especially if unemployment was the alternative.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 13/04/2024 21:16

Equally even if it is anorexia, a woman I was at uni with clearly struggled with eating disorders and was open about it, now in her 40s she looks very unwell, holds down a full-time job though

fieldsofbutterflies · 13/04/2024 21:19

pam290358 · 13/04/2024 21:15

Never came across that situation. Generally, if you take office work as an example, if you have say six employees, including the disabled person, it should be possible to take out and reassign the more physical aspects of that one job, and swap in desk based duties taken from staff across the board so that the work is evenly distributed. It does require looking at everyone’s duties in the first instance to see if it’s reasonable and doable.

If the employer genuinely couldn’t make up another full time post and offered a modified part time post instead, then l think they’ve fulfilled their obligation for reasonable adjustment as far as possible. The employee wouldn’t be obliged to accept it, but l don’t think it would be seen as discriminatory if the employer had made the effort to explore all the options available. Especially if unemployment was the alternative.

Thank you so much for responding - that's what I assumed would be the case but I wasn't 100% sure :)

SheepAndSword · 13/04/2024 21:22

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Mrttyl · 13/04/2024 21:27

@allypally33 to be completely honest I don’t care about the company or her that much. I don’t want to be nasty but it is up to her and the people who love her to decide how to deal with it. I have stuff to worry about with a member of my own family and don’t know how to help them, so I am not going to wade into this one.

Settlement22 · 13/04/2024 22:05

ziggies · 13/04/2024 17:46

Does she ACTUALLY or is she just not fat and you're just getting into a huff over imaginary discrimination?

As someone who was in recovery, IRL I've genuinely never seen any non-anorexic person outside of an anorexia ward OR high fashion modelling (not catalogue or Instagram modelling), who looks actually anorexic in the medical sense. And this includes the time I used to live in Asia (99.999% of women are very slim compared to in the West)!

Edited

She is 5'6" and weighs 6st 4lbs- yep she looks anorexic.
Also where was the imaginary discrimination on the thread- people were being very open about the fact they would discriminate so puzzled about the point you were trying to make?

allypally33 · 13/04/2024 22:07

Mrttyl · 13/04/2024 21:27

@allypally33 to be completely honest I don’t care about the company or her that much. I don’t want to be nasty but it is up to her and the people who love her to decide how to deal with it. I have stuff to worry about with a member of my own family and don’t know how to help them, so I am not going to wade into this one.

I think you're misunderstanding. I wasn't saying that it's yours, or anybody's job to assist the employee personally.
Rather, letting them carry on in their role isn't a kindness. It's just kicking the can down the road.
A good manager in your case would give them sick leave to recover, refer to occupational health etc or if they can't do the role at a high level temporarily change the workings. Officially.

Surely a setup that 'kind of works' must be impacting on other employees too, who have to do her work as well as theirs.

Settlement22 · 13/04/2024 22:08

Josette77 · 13/04/2024 18:39

I have anorexia although in recovery for over a decade.

If your daughter is extremely underweight I would take her to the doctor. She might have another illness.

She has been to the doctor, Thanks though, it definitely is always good to check

UnbeatenMum · 13/04/2024 22:09

I think there are some roles where it would be unethical either for the person with anorexia (e.g. very physical work) or for other vulnerable people (e.g. working in ED services or MH) or both (e.g. dancer/model). It may not matter if the person had anorexia or was seriously underweight for other reasons. I think these roles aside if you were the best candidate for the job I hope you would be given a chance. Good luck with your job hunt and your recovery OP.

XenoBitch · 13/04/2024 22:29

Sadly, anorexia is one of the MH disorders that is visible. I have known several people with it (and have since died too). One applied to volunteer for a MH charity that focuses on gardening. They said no, as she was so painfully thin (and wearing jumpers/coats in winter) that they were worried about the very physical nature of the role.

Saying that, someone can be very thin and it not be MH related at all. Someone interviewing you wont know the difference. It would be seeing Occupational Health that it would come up.

I hope you are surrounded by love and support, and find a job you would like to do.

CustardySergeant · 14/04/2024 00:13

XenoBitch "They said no, as she was so painfully thin (and wearing jumpers/coats in winter)"

There's nothing noteworthy about wearing jumpers/coats in winter.

XenoBitch · 14/04/2024 00:16

CustardySergeant · 14/04/2024 00:13

XenoBitch "They said no, as she was so painfully thin (and wearing jumpers/coats in winter)"

There's nothing noteworthy about wearing jumpers/coats in winter.

Sorry, I saw my mistake and can't change it.

I meant in the summer!

hopsalong · 14/04/2024 01:09

Yes, if I worked for a large company or the government. No, if I worked for a small company or myself and the cost of covering someone's long-term absence from work would be punitive.

If someone is massively underweight they are either anorexic or equally / more severely ill with another illness. I have known two people who lived for a long time with anorexia (painfully, skeletally thin), but they were both off work a lot. Sadly both died before their early fifties.

Ncncncncc · 14/04/2024 01:12

hopsalong · 14/04/2024 01:09

Yes, if I worked for a large company or the government. No, if I worked for a small company or myself and the cost of covering someone's long-term absence from work would be punitive.

If someone is massively underweight they are either anorexic or equally / more severely ill with another illness. I have known two people who lived for a long time with anorexia (painfully, skeletally thin), but they were both off work a lot. Sadly both died before their early fifties.

Before their early 50’s is terrifying and so sad.

I’m sorry about your friends. I hope I can beat this.

OP posts:
TheSquareMile · 14/04/2024 01:17

Ncncncncc · 14/04/2024 01:12

Before their early 50’s is terrifying and so sad.

I’m sorry about your friends. I hope I can beat this.

@Ncncncncc

Are you getting the support you need from your GP and the specialist services in your area? I hope so.

BEAT does very good work, if you can use some extra help.

https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/get-information-and-support/get-help-for-myself/i-need-support-now/helplines/

Helplines - Beat

Beat provides Helplines offering support and information about eating disorders no matter where you are in your journey.

https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/get-information-and-support/get-help-for-myself/i-need-support-now/helplines

DanielGault · 14/04/2024 01:23

Ncncncncc · 14/04/2024 01:12

Before their early 50’s is terrifying and so sad.

I’m sorry about your friends. I hope I can beat this.

I hope you can get some help that works for you with this. It's no way to live. Take care xx

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 08:34

Yes, wishing you well, OP. I hope you can find a way through.

CharlieCookWroteABook · 17/04/2024 21:23

There's no such thing as visibility anorexic- plenty other heath conditions might present that way.

StarlightLime · 17/04/2024 21:24

CharlieCookWroteABook · 17/04/2024 21:23

There's no such thing as visibility anorexic- plenty other heath conditions might present that way.

Not really. It's incredibly obvious.

ThinWomansBrain · 17/04/2024 21:25

depends whether or not the person is the best candidate for the role

CharlieCookWroteABook · 17/04/2024 21:38

Actually I stand corrected and apologise for that

Josette77 · 18/04/2024 02:59

Ncncncncc · 14/04/2024 01:12

Before their early 50’s is terrifying and so sad.

I’m sorry about your friends. I hope I can beat this.

You can absolutely beat it. I promise you. 🌷

Some days it will be really really hard, but you can chose to recover.

Some days will be really really easy and weeks, months, even years will go by where you barely notice it within you.

Then it might get hard again. Really hard. Horrifically hard. And you once again will choose to recover. Minute by minute. Hour by hour. Until the years pass again.

It's a constant decision. You have to keep choosing you.

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