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Would you hire someone visibly anorexic?

349 replies

Ncncncncc · 13/04/2024 12:47

I’m looking for honest (even if brutal) answers.

OP posts:
mumofone1111 · 13/04/2024 17:34

Yes - if you don't because of health is discrimination.
If capable of doing the job and qualified etc why wouldn't you?

Not sure whether there are safeguarding things in place of harming themselves and you can offer support but that is best asked to a lawyer or HR team

Rosscameasdoody · 13/04/2024 17:37

Tristar15 · 13/04/2024 12:55

No. Having had an anorexic employee previously the time they needed off was too much to manage. It was also very worrying for other employees who worried about their health and were worried about how they behaved or what they said in case it was triggering.

You’re aware that you’re discriminating though, right ? You’re not allowed to ask a potential employee about their health even if a disability is staring you in the face, so you’re assuming because they’re thin, they have an eating disorder.

Tistheseason17 · 13/04/2024 17:37

Employers who discriminate never actually tell you that's what they're doing.
They simply don't employ you and tell you they had applicants who performed better at interview than you. Sad, but true. I can see people's faces when my huge ass walks in!

Wisenotboring · 13/04/2024 17:39

Babyroobs · 13/04/2024 12:52

Would people be equally concerned about taking on someone very overweight though as this could equally be due to an eating disorder?

There is plenty of evidence that people who are overweight are discrimated against...even though in theory it's not allowed.
To address your point though, very brutally people who are overweight often experience their server ill health/death in a delayed manner. Sadly, very seriously anorexic people are at high risk of sudden very severe health issues and in patient treatment.
In answer to the original point, in theory and legally it shouldn't matter, but I would be worried about employing someone with very entrenched mental and physical health issues. I would feel very conflicted making reasonable demands on them in the workplace that might not be in their best interests in terms of their health.
OP, if this is you I would urge you to seek help if you have not already, don't give up your professional ambitions and I hope you are able to recover enough to enjoy all the fun of life and work for a long time to come.

InSpainTheRain · 13/04/2024 17:41

Yes if they could.do thr job. It would be discrimination not to hire and we're in.a big company with great support. Perhaps it would be their chance to break free too.

A.while back I gave a chance.to a guy to keep his contract although he screwed up massively and is verging on being an alcoholic. We had a bit of a heart to heart and I told him it was his last chance. He sent me a card last week saying thank you and so far so good, 7 months sober. Back with his fiancee and baby son. Always give a chance if you believe the person can do the job.

ArabellaRockerfella · 13/04/2024 17:42

I'm speaking from experience here, an anorexic is never the best person for the job. My daughter has told me of the unseen aspects of the illness; poor mental function, obsessive thoughts, headaches, dizziness, palpitations, constant extreme coldness, paranoia, nausea, poor coordination, aches and pains, extreme tiredness etc. In short she could barely function whilst on the outside masking it to appear 'normal'.

mumofone1111 · 13/04/2024 17:44

Lovemusic82 · 13/04/2024 12:50

How is someone visibly anorexic? How do you know they are not just slim or that they don’t have some other condition?

Knowing someone who is visibly anorexic it can be obvious at a certain stage

ziggies · 13/04/2024 17:46

Settlement22 · 13/04/2024 12:53

Good god, I can't believe what i am reading. Maybe they look anorexic but are in recovery and a job is good for them
My daughter looks anorexic but eats more than me so she has plenty of energy
The discrimination on this thread is horrendous

Edited

Does she ACTUALLY or is she just not fat and you're just getting into a huff over imaginary discrimination?

As someone who was in recovery, IRL I've genuinely never seen any non-anorexic person outside of an anorexia ward OR high fashion modelling (not catalogue or Instagram modelling), who looks actually anorexic in the medical sense. And this includes the time I used to live in Asia (99.999% of women are very slim compared to in the West)!

SecondHandFurniture · 13/04/2024 17:51

My last workplace did. She was great. She tended to avoid the social events though.

StarlightLime · 13/04/2024 17:51

saveforthat · 13/04/2024 12:52

Is anorexia nervosa a disability?

Of course it isn't. Nor does not employing someone who looks visibly frail and ill constitute discrimination.

coxesorangepippin · 13/04/2024 17:55

Non

babycandy · 13/04/2024 17:56

Ncncncncc · 13/04/2024 12:55

Yes, it’s me.

Struggling to find a new job. Caught sight of myself after leaving an interview this week and wondered.

I have never had time off though.

I just wanted to send my love and say that I suffer from an eating disorder (BED).

I would like to think that people aren’t discriminated on whether they look like they have an eating disorder. However, I suspect they might x

theeyeofdoe · 13/04/2024 17:58

I wouldn't have an issue if someone disclosed that they had anorexia, more than if they had depression and we recovering from either.

However, I wouldn't employ someone who was considerably overweight or underweight, smoked or was covered in tattoos as they're likely to have poor judgment about other things too.

ShinyPebble32 · 13/04/2024 18:00

How can someone be ‘visibly’ anorexic? They can be visibly underweight, but how can you know the cause of that unless they disclose it?

Sorry, I’ve just read your update and don’t know how to remove my comment. Of course people should hire you if you’re the best person for the job - I would, and if I noticed someone looked particularly underweight I wouldn’t speculate about the cause. Best of luck in your job search 💐

BeachBeerBbq · 13/04/2024 18:01

InSpainTheRain · 13/04/2024 17:41

Yes if they could.do thr job. It would be discrimination not to hire and we're in.a big company with great support. Perhaps it would be their chance to break free too.

A.while back I gave a chance.to a guy to keep his contract although he screwed up massively and is verging on being an alcoholic. We had a bit of a heart to heart and I told him it was his last chance. He sent me a card last week saying thank you and so far so good, 7 months sober. Back with his fiancee and baby son. Always give a chance if you believe the person can do the job.

Edited

See this is great. And big companies can take the risk and pay for support, which is smashing! Good on the guy. Social responsibility is important.

But just a reminder that small and micro businesses don't have this and can't take a risk. Doesn't make them bad people. They do things they can afford.

BeachBeerBbq · 13/04/2024 18:06

@Ncncncncc I would just like tp add to all of tjis that it's most likely not you. Job market worldwide went mental. Companies are looking for unicorns and anything less, doesn't do. Just look at how many ads get readvertised.

I agree with pp about civil service. Very little discrimination in my experience (may differ), blind recruitment, skill scoring rather than personality.

Fimofriend · 13/04/2024 18:08

Not if I had to eat lunch with them. Anorectics talk about food as if it is faeces. I fully admit it might be good for me to lose a few pounds but I refuse to eat with someone who will be saying disgusting things and making me feel nauseous every day.

ChewbaccasMrs · 13/04/2024 18:08

Yes,I was anorexic for years,I'm no longer actively anorexic and I was able to get through school,exams and then onto work perfectly fine.

BeachBeerBbq · 13/04/2024 18:09

Fimofriend · 13/04/2024 18:08

Not if I had to eat lunch with them. Anorectics talk about food as if it is faeces. I fully admit it might be good for me to lose a few pounds but I refuse to eat with someone who will be saying disgusting things and making me feel nauseous every day.

That's nor anorexia from my experience at all.
That's other issues with food. You can find most on mumsnet

Rosscameasdoody · 13/04/2024 18:18

StarlightLime · 13/04/2024 17:51

Of course it isn't. Nor does not employing someone who looks visibly frail and ill constitute discrimination.

Anorexia is covered by the Equality Act 2010. It’s a mental health condition and meets the definition of disability as defined by the Act. As such the sufferer would have protection from discrimination in the workplace - or anywhere else for that matter - due to their disability. Any employer would be required to make reasonable adjustment as necessary to allow the disabled person to do the job.

Opalnecklace · 13/04/2024 18:19

It could be that they don't have enough money for food and that is why they are thin or it could be that yes they are anorexic. Either way Give them a chance.

Devonshiregal · 13/04/2024 18:20

Flossyflop · 13/04/2024 12:55

It may surprise some people in this thread to know that people can be what you class as visibly anorexic their whole lives and be in a stable state of their condition.

It may also surprise some to know that a job helps many people with a mental health condition to flourish and recover.

Absolutely. Unfortunately more often than not they put a huge amount of pressure and problems at the feet of their manager or business owner and then are impossible to get rid of despite them not doing their jobs properly.

FrannieGallops · 13/04/2024 18:20

Depends on the role I was recruiting for tbh. But, yes, if they did well at interview, I would offer the post.

TheSquareMile · 13/04/2024 18:23

Ncncncncc · 13/04/2024 12:55

Yes, it’s me.

Struggling to find a new job. Caught sight of myself after leaving an interview this week and wondered.

I have never had time off though.

@Ncncncncc

Are you getting the support and treatment you need, OP?

Have you been able to discuss your search for a job with the staff supporting you?

It might be that your focus needs to be on getting well at this point, with a view to getting back into work perhaps during the summer.

How old are you, by the way?

JenG256 · 13/04/2024 18:25

Read your Equality Act Guidance. Employment Discrimination is a thing.

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