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AIBU to not be happy with my MIL as a neighbour or to have weekly contact with her?...

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Ewg9 · 10/04/2024 23:25

Just wondering other people’s views, and if I'm just on some post pregnancy hormone frenzy but we live next to my MIL, we have done for a year now in a house she owns (we pay the bills but pay no rent). I now have a five month old and since his birth I've really been struggling with her. I'll say that she was always the matriarch, twice divorced professional lady with her own business with two devoted sons. Since the birth, the dynamic between us has changed. She irritated me early on by coming over the last evening of husbands paternity leave to hangout with us and baby and I felt this was encroaching on our time as a new family. Since then she has interfered, with her opinions (I know she is entitled to say what she wants) and coming across on occasion critical and undermining our/my ability to care for the baby (I have read that this can be really normal unfortunately). My husband obviously finds her a support and i always try to remember this but i haven't found her supportive or helpful especially since baby arrived. she made a bad joke in the early weeks how she wouldn't help with house work and she pays someone to do hers and doesn't do ironing but that she'd hold the baby whilst i did it. She had the nerve awhile ago to say to my face how I’d had a good labour and that we have a good baby and that we were having an easy time. I snapped back and catalogued the difficulties we had had (yes the baby hasn't been colicky but there have been other difficulties like all first time parents might experience. Breastfeeding was a nightmare for months due to jaundice, a tongue tie and then thrush so the first 3/4 months of feeding were terrible. Anyway, MIL sees the baby once a week as she has hosted us for Sunday lunch since baby arrived and I may seem ungrateful, but I don't like seeing her every week and if anything, would prefer to reduce the contact. If she could, she would definitely be coming round more she is only next door after all. Anyway, she has recently said to husband, that she doesn't want to cook Sunday dinner anymore as she's not getting the time with the baby because she's busy cooking. We usually arrive and eat and spend a couple/ a few hours with her afterwards for her to have cuddle time. I’m trying to tell myself to appreciate what she has done, and that she lives on her own and that it’s good for hubby and for baby and that I can retreat and keep out of the way more as baby becomes more independent and that somethings just change.

but I am posting this as I don't know where to turn, I feel suffocated living next to her, and I just want space and time to be a new family. I feel the same with my own mother (she would be seeing the baby more if she could) she also sees baby once a week. I think it's more intense with the MIL as she lives next door and in fairness to my Mum she helped us loads with meals and with house jobs and I suppose she is my Mum. There are other things I could list about the circumstances which are difficult such as I don’t value the free house, it’s in a poor area and out of the town, i have no connection to the place and I feel very isolated (both physically and emotionally) and have done since the baby arrived. my emotional state is hanging by threads quite frankly though I am doing my best in trying to get out and meet other Mums at groups. Am I being unreasonable and just psycho Mummy for not wanting a weekly date with my MIL or to be her neighbour? Sorry for the jumbled essay but feel better for finally saying how I feel...

OP posts:
Pipsquiggle · 11/04/2024 07:27

TBH it does sound like you are being ungrateful.

Free house and you see her once a week. If I lived next door to my ILs (or parents) I bet they would be popping in all the time.
She doesn't sound toxic or overbearing to you.

I am assuming that you have a plan. Live there for a few years and then get your own place? Focus on your end goal.

Caththegreat · 11/04/2024 07:28

Yes ones own little family can be quite tricky at times and a creation of capitalism.In tribes people looked after babies together.Makes more sense

Noyesnoyes · 11/04/2024 07:28

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 07:24

@Noyesnoyes it was a thing to op..obviously a special night for her?

It doesn't matter if it never matters to a single person on earth... Op didn't want her mil there.

What does matter is that for living rent free you need to be you know a little bit grateful?

I want to live rent free but don't want to give you a few hours a week with your grandchild!

And you're going one step further and saying h the father shouldn't take the GC to see his mother!

Caththegreat · 11/04/2024 07:29

A lot of people of all ages tend to think if they are paying they call the tune.

SpringLobelia · 11/04/2024 07:32

I think your hormones are all over the place as well. She is giving you such an easy ride by letting you live rent free and at the very least it must enable you to save up yourselves for a deposit?

She also does not sound very overbearing but I appreciate sometimes it is tone or approach that is the issue.

Personally I'd probably hate being so close to any relative- even if I got along. But this sounds like an idea position for now while you and your DH save to be more independent.

WimpoleHat · 11/04/2024 07:36

I think the in law dynamic can be very difficult at the best of times - and when you’ve just had a baby is never the best time for dealing with relationships that you already find challenging. But - kindly - you are being a bit unreasonable to accept her housing you for free and then resenting her involvement. I think you either have to accept her generosity with good grace (accepting that there are parts of it which are not ideal for you) or (also with good grace) say that you’d like to be independent and find your own place, taking the financial hit that that brings.

TheAlchemistElixa · 11/04/2024 07:40

While I understand and sympathise with your need to not feel so beholden to a weekly visit schedule (can your husband not go alone with baby sometimes?), I would be livid if my daughter in law resented me for not doing her ironing and housework, just because she happens to have a five month old baby.

especially if I already cooked for her once and week and she lived rent free in my house….

Brabican · 11/04/2024 07:42

I agree about sending your husband round but the poster who suggested you set a time limit for your husband visiting and suggested 20 minutes . Can you imaging a husband on here wing told to suggest his wife could only see her mother for 20 minute slots?

Boomer55 · 11/04/2024 07:44

mrsdineen2 · 10/04/2024 23:28

A free house and a weekly roast? What a monster.

Yes, I wish I’d have had those problems lol 🙄

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 07:44

@Noyesnoyes why is op reluctant to see her mil?

What are the reasons given in the op...

You baby maker... You will iron whilst I and my son hold baby? I'm not cleaning or ironing for YOU.

Many implications there, firstly that she has no expectations of her son doing any housework, asserting herself as above cleaning etc and referring to op as a baby making machine who can do these chores whilst she enjoys ops baby.

Not exactly diplomatic respectful talk is it?

Frangipanyoul8r · 11/04/2024 07:45

I would absolutely hate this arrangement and shame on anyone telling you you’re ungrateful. I expect about 0.1% of all mothers would actually want their MIL living next door.

Be honest with your DH - just tell him you know it sounds ungrateful but you feel trapped and suffocated in the current arrangement.

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 07:46

@TheAlchemistElixa

Nope be careful... Op never said that.

Op never said " mil can you help me out and do some cleaning".

It was mil who raised this, op never asked!

Noyesnoyes · 11/04/2024 07:48

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 07:44

@Noyesnoyes why is op reluctant to see her mil?

What are the reasons given in the op...

You baby maker... You will iron whilst I and my son hold baby? I'm not cleaning or ironing for YOU.

Many implications there, firstly that she has no expectations of her son doing any housework, asserting herself as above cleaning etc and referring to op as a baby making machine who can do these chores whilst she enjoys ops baby.

Not exactly diplomatic respectful talk is it?

Why should the MIL do the ironing? Why doesn't either OP or her DH do the ironing?

So because they've had a baby are living rent free, then MIL also has to he the unpaid help?

Use some of the money they're saving and get a cleaner and their ironing done? What about that?

Moglet4 · 11/04/2024 07:50

It sounds like DH is the problem here, not MIL. He gets a free house (no small thing) and his mother next door. Now that he’s got you there, does he feel he can keep you there? Was his plan to stay for good or to save? If you’reactively saving for a house then I would say suck it up and do some little things to make you feel better: send DH round while you stay at home or book in a day out with just your family a few weeks in advance. If you’re not actively saving then you need to be having a conversation with DH about what you do and don’t want.

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 07:50

@Noyesnoyes read the op and find the quote.

You have misread it and your ire is misplaced.

Op didn't ask her mil to clean.

LookItsMeAgain · 11/04/2024 07:52

The money you're saving on paying rent, use it for a down payment on your own place.

CUT THOSE APRON STRINGS!!!

The fact that your husband still runs to mummy to help him (and he a grown individual in his own right who has offspring of his own) is not a good look.

I think it is now time for you to move.

When your in-laws are no longer within 'breathing down your neck' distance, you might find the ability to revert back to a more cordial relationship with them.

MrKDilkington · 11/04/2024 07:52

Caththegreat · 11/04/2024 07:29

A lot of people of all ages tend to think if they are paying they call the tune.

Well it certainly helps me to have autonomy over every aspect of my life because I pay for it all myself 🤷🏼‍♀️

CoolRedSquid · 11/04/2024 07:53

I feel for you @Ewg9 I imagine you'd like your space away from MIL. It probably feels like she's a bit too close for comfort. I wouldn't like it either, and the biggest conflict is because you are living in her house rent free.
If you're not in a position to move away, I'd suggest seeing her for shorter amounts of time and perhaps a little more often if that's possible. Less of the several hours on a Sunday. I can see that it taking up most of the day would be frustrating. It's one thing being invited from time to time, and quite another being expected to be there every week. Her response to you making plans without her on a Sunday would be very telling.
I am a MIL and grandmother, and probably say irritating things from time to time, but I try very hard not to! I'd let the ironing comment go.

Your frustration is making it more difficult, I think. I bet your insides are screaming! Have a sit down with a warm drink and think about what you would like your relationship with her to be like, and then see how you can make that happen.

I wish you well 💐

determinedtomakethiswork · 11/04/2024 07:54

The thing is that on paper it looks as though you are lucky and just in a bad mood because of hormones. However, if you are living somewhere you don't like in a house you don't particularly like then obviously you're not lucky. What can you do about moving? Where would you like to live?

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 11/04/2024 07:54

The problems here lie with the enmeshed sons…

Noyesnoyes · 11/04/2024 07:56

BudsBeginingSpringinSight · 11/04/2024 07:50

@Noyesnoyes read the op and find the quote.

You have misread it and your ire is misplaced.

Op didn't ask her mil to clean.

I never said she did?

It's you that said she wouldn't do the Ironing and I'm saying why should she?

Why would you expect her too?

Anyway at the end of the day, OP needs to move out or pay market rent,

Then she is master of her own destiny, although her DH seems to have a good relationship with his DM, so should continue "breaking the unit" and seeing his mother with his DC.

PinkyFlamingo · 11/04/2024 07:57

You actually begrudge her seeing her Grandchild once a week??

PinkyFlamingo · 11/04/2024 07:58

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 11/04/2024 07:54

The problems here lie with the enmeshed sons…

What makes you say that? I dint think a n adult son who has a good relationship with their Mum is enmeshed?

Anonymouseposter · 11/04/2024 08:00

I think your MIL saying that she’s going to stop cooking the lunch to have more cuddle time gives you an opportunity to loosen things. Perhaps say that you are hoping to get out and about more over the summer and your husband will pop over with baby for an hour for her to have a cuddle. Go sometimes but let him go on his own too. In the longer term save for your own place. It sounds like you have had some support from both grandmothers in different ways and once a week isn’t a lot but perhaps make it a bit more flexible . Although she’s next door it doesn’t sound as if she keeps popping in uninvited so don’t do that to her, just get your husband to text and say “We’re going out Sunday afternoon, will you be in around 10am if I pop round with baby” for example.

JudgeJ · 11/04/2024 08:00

ChickenNugget86 · 11/04/2024 00:05

You sound quite down. My MIL irritates me, I do see my in laws but not every week. I go every 2-3 weeks and let DH visit with DS every week. It's nice to have a bit of time to myself away from everyone (I like my own company)
Could you afford to rent or buy a house in a different area? Unfortunately as you are living rent free it makes things more awkward in my opinion.

How generous to 'let' your husband and his son visit his parents every week! A typical MN comment.

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