To Think William Wragg should leave Parliament immediately?

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For anyone who doesn't know, William Wragg MP got chatting with someone on Grinder last year. He sent them intimate messages and photos, they agreed to meet up, but it didn't happen.

The Grinder person threatened to make WW's messages public and in return for their silence, Wragg gave this person direct contact numbers for other MPs. He even vouched for his blackmailer to (at least) one of his colleagues.

AIBU to think William Wragg is a fucking liability to the country?

He is so stupid, easily embarrassed and weak that he readily risked the security of other MPs and the country to spare his blushes.

On a side note, surely it is not too much to expect our MPs to refrain from sending dick pics while in office?

Agree entirely.

Also agree that we need better standards of behaviour from then while in office. The job does not last long - when finished they have plenty of time to earn gazillions and send dick pics.

It's disgusting that he has got away with it. However, it's The Fake Tories so I'm not surprised.

Someone is human. They make a mistake (admittedly quite a significant mistake) but then they have the decency to publicly admit that mistake, take responsibility for it, work with the police and get it sorted.

I'd say that person has a lot more courage and integrity than many of our politicians.

YANBU!

There should be an overhaul of the system and new rules and ethics that must abide by.

what they get away with beggars belief

Except he didn’t have the decency. He got found out and had no choice so he took it to a friendly journalist. It was another MP who went to the police. Wragg doesn’t have an awful lot of choice in helping the police.

If it was up to him I’d put money on the fact that he’d still be wandering about lying to his fellow MPs about it like he was before the story broke.

What on earth are you talking about?

Yes. How naive and crazy as a public figure in a position of great responsibility, to send dick pics and then the numbers of other MPs. FFS have the decency to just piss off. But then the whole Tory party is a cesspit. There was some friend of his defending him and saying he had ‘made a mistake ‘ but was brave to admit it etc etc. Firstly, it’s not a mistake, it’s sheer stupidity and total lack of judgement and secondly, he wasn’t brave. He was found out. Disgraceful.

Yes of course. But the Tory party have no moral compass whatsoever. His actions sum up the slithery, self-serving collective of spineless incompetence that is the government.

We are all human @Meadowfinch. And we all fuck up sometimes.

William Wragg made an error of judgement. He was willing to sacrifice his colleagues and country to cover his embarrassment. He even vouched for the person blackmailing him.

He is too stupid, weak and easily manipulated to be in the government. If he worked for the private sector he'd be out on his hole.

Totally agree with the OP. The guy has no courage and no integrity, and is clearly a major security risk.

Reminds me of a Katherine Ryan sketch where she shouts "Put your dick away, put your dick away". People really should heed this before they send dick pics - particularly if they are in a blackmailable position.

A "mistake"? Come on.

Mistakes are things like forgetting to put the bins out at night.
I made a 'mistake' the other night - I took chicken breasts out the freezer for tea, forgetting that I'd already bought mince.

Sending explicit sexual photos on WhatsApp can't be put down to a "mistake". And, passing on the personal contact details of umpteen other MP's isn't a mistake.

He behaved extremely foolishly, and I suspect he probably panicked when he realised what he'd got himself into - I get that.
But, rather than follow proper procedures, he has thrown his parliamentary colleagues to the wolves, in the hope of avoiding detection.

That's not a 'mistake'. He was desperate to find a way out of it, and it backfired on him.

Makes me so angry what with hunts explanation they have no qualm about insulting our intelligence have they?

Sorry but I just don’t want MPs to be compromising themselves in the first place. Wragg has now broken security protocols and demeaned his public office and breached Nolan principles to try to save his public face. Awful and dangerous moral void.

There are many people in his party who would have advised him how to discreetly and officially deal with blackmail via the police even once he’d been so stupid as to send dick pics while in office in the first place. so actually he’s very culpable for succumbing to blackmail like this and making it so much worse.

Wragg must just be arrogant like the tractor wanker MP and all the other elected sexual harassers and attackers trying to get away with it - it’s very simple and commonly understood that you just can’t do whatever you like sexually if you also want to be elected and represent the community as an MP at the same time. They think they’re above normal rules for some reason and reject the extra rules that apply if you’re an MP.

It's amazing that this kind of thing is not a criminal offense. What he did is borderline treason and could have lead to who knows what for the country.
Ordinary citizens are jailed for far less serious "mistakes" than this.
The Tories are utterly sickening. And not a peep from Sunak on the matter. Head in the sand as usual.

This x 10000000

Compare the quiet response from the right wing press to the non-story of Raynor and her decade old capital gains tax and it tells you everything you need to know about how public opinion is controlled.

Of course he should go. But he's deputy of the 1922 committee (so far as I can see it only involves him simpering next to Brady) and so somehow has acquired some status.

What fucks me off about this sort of thing is that the people who run our country are held to such flimsy standards. Look at teachers, for example. When you go into teaching, you're given a massive list of "teachers standards" that you're bound to whether you're 'on the clock' or not. There's a clause in it that basically says you can't do anything to undermine public opinion of the profession. Why don't politicians have anything like this? Why do they keep getting away with this sort of shit?!

@Hamger they have a Code of Conduct and should adhere to the Nolan principles but too often they just don't.

Disgusting sleeze

Absolutely he should go.
If I behaved like this I would be sacked.
No issue with him using Grindr and sending a dick pic - I believe that's pretty standard between consenting adults these days but pretty foolish for someone in his position. Compromising his colleagues and sharing their phone numbers is unforgivable.
As for the other 2 that also sent photos- well they are stupid as well.
The Tories are finished, time and again they show us they are morally bankrupt and incompetent.

I think it's probably also because the Tories can't face losing yet another byelection. Wragg's majority is less than 10k and even without this fiasco, they stood to lose the seat at the next GE. Multiply that by a gazillion in a byelection in these circumstances!

He had got himself into a decent position within the parliamentary party, but he said in 2022 that he wasn't going to contest the next election. So he's probably not someone they'd bother going to bat for because of his personal position.

Yes. Can only think they’re trying to avoid a by election, and perhaps he’s threatened to reveal which other MPs were half-witted enough to get involved.

Interesting point.

Anyone as stupid as that shouldn’t be an MP. He should resign, but he won’t🙄