Peter Andre on GB News

[Laughattheloons]

This has thrown me. I’ve just seen a TikTok about it. Obviously not a Peter fan but always just assumed he was a decent good guy. Clearly not. I can never ironic Mysterious Girl again

@Pickledf

I hate to break it to you but the mail is the most widely read paper and online news page . It's not a stretch that a lot of people don't like the way the country is going .

Throughout this discussion? 170 odd posts in on page 7? Are you always prone to such ridiculous exaggeration?

I took issue with what I considered to be a poorly worded comment. Free speech and all that jazz. Perhaps you should reflect on that.

Well the Daily Mail demanded Brexit for years and years and got their wish. They demanded Boris Johnson. They demanded Liz Truss and "at last a true Tory budget". It holds massive influence over certainly every Tory PM and even Blair and Brown were cowed by the Mail (Brown was even good mates with Dacre).

Perhaps they should look closer to home if the country is a mess.

I’m sure he is, I was defending him. I am a fan of GB news. They are a voice of sanity in a crazy woke world.

Perhaps OP might consider moving to communist China and leave to rest to choose what we watch and what we think
( while we still just about can)

Has he actually said anything offensive, or is he “no longer a good guy” simply by appearing on GBN at all? Life isn’t black and white, this is extremely simplistic thinking.

@User135644

Liberalism is turning this country into an unrecognisable mess . Nothing else .

Al lot of right leaning people are perfectly nice and decent. Not every conservative is some Lee Anderson type caricature, any more than every liberal is some perpetually offended blue haired crazy.

I agree with you, but we've had Conservative governments for the last 14 years that the Daily Mail has backed. We've had Brexit that they've backed, yet everything has got worse.

Really dislike the term 'gammon'. Along with 'Karen' and 'terf', it's just a way to casually insult and dismiss anyone whose opinions don't align with yours - this does the country no good. Ignoring opinions held by large numbers of the population leads us into ultimately damaging referendum and election results! Use it at your peril.

I always felt that Katie Price (for all her subsequent issues) got a very raw deal in that marriage. PA has managed his public image very well (except on MN).

I think there's room for all kinds of news outlets and it does the main ones good to have their narrative challenged every so often - it makes it that little bit harder for them to get away with sloppy, reductive journalism.

Andrew Doyle. More clever than all of us put together.

@Italianita don't pay any attention to such a viscious comment. You obviously have more interesting things to be worried about than a one hit wonder has-been and some obscure news show that apparenty only right-wing nuts watch. That's no bad thing. I have no idea what this thread is about either. I'm personally taking it as a badge if honour.

What's 'common sense'? Do you mean views everyone shares, some innate understanding of the world that exists outside of science, or views that you think seem reasonable?

Or do you simply mean being aware of the bloody obvious? Like how a loss making channel bankrolled by a hedgefund owner, staffed by Tory MPs, regularly hosting eugenicists, misogynistics and regularly found in breach of impartiality rules (despite being held to a lower standard than actual News channels) might be a little biased. Enough that the famously not lefty FT describes it as "the pulpit for rightwing politics"

The only people who use the term 'gammon' tend to be a certain type of person… baa 🐑🙄

@Underthinker

Disagree. Look at Brand right now. Advocates free speech, yet is trying to censor women who speak out. That’s weaponising free speech.

And I do agree with free speech in the right situation. E.g often in comedy with an audience that understands. Where it doesn’t cause harm. To discuss politics, all views need to be heard - to displace echo chambers.

However in a primary school, it is not acceptable to allow another pupil to speak racist hate speech/sexualised speech towards another. It needs to be monitored by an adult.

There are two sides to every coin, and free speech advantages cannot exist without an awareness of the disadvantages or potential harm that could be caused.

Who is gammon offensive to? Dead pigs?

I have no problem with people hearing other points of view, I think the problem is when we say “don’t let anyone hear that! It may rot their brain” instead of formulating a convincing counter argument. Also they do have left wing panellists on there defending their corner. At least they are willing to go on there, should they be censured for engaging? So no I don’t think it’s existence is a problem.

The treatment of feminists in recent years has really changed my perspective on a lot of things. I don’t need anyone telling me what to listen to. I’m a member of an ethnic minority and have started reading Mein Kampf a few times (never got far, it’s so utterly boring, I’ve decided that most Nazis never bothered reading it but just keep it on the coffee table). Reading and engaging with something isn’t endorsement.

I happen to agree with some of their panellist on some things. I have views on the SJM in regards to race that wouldn’t necessarily be popular with the far left. Definitely have views on womens rights that wouldn’t be popular. We have moved so far away from constructive debate and fallen into appeals to emotion, purity spirals, no platforming etc we are building fragility into our societies.

Bloody hell, that took some working out to try and understand why the OP wants to cancel Peter Andre. Some people need to get a hobby.

Gammon is offensive because it’s a racist term mocking people’s skin colour.

People who bleat about free speech are usually among the first to suppress it if someone comes after them or attack anyone who disagrees with them. It's like the journalists who go on about freedom of the press while they hound and harass people, but are the first to cry or lawyer up if their privacy is invaded.

People tend to have a selective view about free speech, whether left or right.

Sheep maximise their potential by working collaboratively & collectively for the greater good of the flock. Unlike the hedgefund owner at GBEEBIES who leads his flock around by their noses while his mates in finance fill their offshore accounts with the profits from what used to be publicly owned utilities.

It’s offensive to white people by mocking their skin colour and comparing it to pig. If you don’t understand how offensive that is on a basic level there is nothing more to say.

Andre is a weird choice, for any news channel. But it’s interesting that so many people are against GB News for even existing. Where do these people get their completely unbiased, non-agenda driven news from then, that makes them much more superior to everyone else? The BBC?

There are regularly issues that the mainstream media peddle to us that are argued against on MN. Thinking critically rather than parroting what the Beeb tell us is what makes for good debate.

I would say that Peter Andre = Mollie/Animal Farm. And would do nothing for any credibility desired by GB News.

I don’t think the concept of gammonery/far right-wing politics was even on his radar. He’s too busy loving his kids and doing public appearances.

He likes to be popular with a certain demographic and his manager likely found him a job with a regular income (he’s getting older) whilst keeping him in the public eye for his music.