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What age would you put this child at?

452 replies

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 12:04

For writing etc? Any teachers to give feedback would also be very helpful 🙏

What age would you put this child at?
OP posts:
Kalevala · 06/04/2024 18:32

Calliopespa · 06/04/2024 18:28

Yeah some definitely are . Summer children start school just after they turn 4.

But it’s needless haste.

It was unrelated to school starting age for both my DN and DS, it was self directed interest.

Washingupdone · 06/04/2024 18:34

I taught my two of my three DDs to read from about three with the Ladybird books and then Biff ones.(It was a long time ago.) We did a page a day plus games. However, they wrote the French way, as the education system had all the children write all the same way. No ill came of it, except their US GM criticised the ‘w’ written like double uu. I took the French homework books for 6 year olds and they played drawing the cursive writing with fountain pens, as they do/did in France. They were so lucky to learn two or more languages naturally.

Growlybear83 · 06/04/2024 18:36

WittiestUsernameEver · 06/04/2024 18:15

NO 3-4 YEAR OLD (EG PRE-SCHOOLERS) ARE WRITING LIKE THIS....!

#MumsnetMadness

My daughter could write like that long before she started Reception. I volunteered in her class for a couple of years and got to know the other children well, and she was by no means the only one who was writing at least as well as the example the OP gave when they started school. Of course, there were also children who didn't know how to hold a pencil properly and didn't even know their alphabet let alone read, and lots in the middle.

ArchesOfsunflowers · 06/04/2024 18:36

norfolkbeaches · 06/04/2024 14:33

I'm an Early years teacher and that doesn't look like it's a child's work, it looks like an adult has done it in the style of a young child. Reading/ writing/ spelling come together at different stages. It's unusual for a child to produce work like that but spell 'one' ( has to be remembered as not phonetic) 'doggy' to put a double g at 5 is unusual and 'land' again the n is a very quiet sound that most children writing casually for fun would miss. Even if a child was confidently reading those words and many are at 5, it's less usual to be spelling them all consistently in a work that is so poor in other areas ( handwriting). However the handwriting looks fake because the cat has been drawn with a small head meaning the eyes/ mouth/ ears have taken a great deal of hand control that isn't evidenced in the writing. The four legs and tail are all accurately placed with just the right amount of colouring out of the line to imply it's been done by a child. The incorrect letter formation is odd, with some more complex letters having the right hand movement but large and some more simple letters incorrect. I look at thousands of prices of children's work and this doesn't fit with the usual development. I don't know why op would pretend it's a child's work but I don't think it is.

My home educated child actually developed in this kind of atypical pattern. I’d believe it could happen in a different teaching system too.
DD’s handwriting was waaaay behind for ages, but she was a bright button who read and used memory to spell familiar words. No synthetic phonics. Her drawing developed her handwriting skills and by the end of primary her writing was quite typical for her age in all areas.

splashofcolour · 06/04/2024 18:36

6

Blingismything · 06/04/2024 18:38

5-6

MyMagicStars · 06/04/2024 18:40

Good Reception child/weaker y1 child- asked dd4 (her third year teaching y1). She says it’s interesting phonetically- as knowing “y as ee” for doggy and mummy is taught y1. Spelling good- remembering capital I and reasonably good spacing.

MyrrAgain · 06/04/2024 18:40

🙄

PurpleFlower1983 · 06/04/2024 18:44

Reception but a child who is struggling with formation and needs extra support. I am a teacher.

Italiandreams · 06/04/2024 18:44

As many, who work with children are saying, if written independently the spelling ability would be unusual for a preschooler, the application of phonics not taught until year 1 usually and ‘you’ is not a word you can sound out. Obviously some children will but not many. Handwriting is just one part of the writing process, and many children simply don’t have the motor skills yet.

zaffa · 06/04/2024 18:45

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 12:04

For writing etc? Any teachers to give feedback would also be very helpful 🙏

DH who is a primary teacher says year one ish (5-6)

tantrummingterrors · 06/04/2024 18:47

My children were writing like this end of Reception and year 1. I feel like there’s a lot of bragging on this post! Forming letters (b’s and d’s the right way round for example) takes time and good fine motor skills. I’d say she’s doing ace!

Borracha · 06/04/2024 19:07

We’re not in the UK (but my kids go to a British curriculum school) and this looks very similar to the work that my 5 (turning 6 at the end of the summer) child would produce. I have always considered him to be the ‘bottom end of average’ when it comes to reading and writing - he keeps up with the rest but doesn’t excel and he’s not arsed - would sooner be playing football or tag!

RisingSunn · 06/04/2024 19:07

Between 4-6

lostinaforeigncountry · 06/04/2024 19:12

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 17:20

Just out of interest, what is the average reading level in the U.K. for an almost 6 year old? Interesting to see how they do things differently.
A lot of my native friends here say their children the jump from Pre school to formal school quite a jump/challenge, I’m wondering whether to just read every day in the summer holidays (her to read a a book, we already read stories every night to her) and let her write lots (in her own *Interesting style 😂…hopefully it will be less of a shock 🤷🏻‍♀️

I wouldn't worry at all - it is a jump but the teacher and the curriculum is usually really good and tried and tested. They will tell you if there are any problems during the year and things you can do at home to help, like read more together.

I found it quite a magical time, seeing the transformation!

I would just keep reading for enjoyment and keep reading the Biff books but not worry at all. I would also encourage the free drawing, really good for fine motor skills plus self expression!

Summertimeagain · 06/04/2024 19:13

3 or 4 possibly. It also depends so much on whether writing is formally taught to them at a young age.

chillicalypso · 06/04/2024 19:15

Reception so 4-5

Marieb19 · 06/04/2024 19:17

Why are you asking? Is this the writing of your child? Are you worried?

caringcarer · 06/04/2024 19:18

WittiestUsernameEver · 06/04/2024 18:15

NO 3-4 YEAR OLD (EG PRE-SCHOOLERS) ARE WRITING LIKE THIS....!

#MumsnetMadness

My DD could write better than that at 3.5 years and could write in joined up writing by 5. When she started school they told me she had a reading age of 8 years and 2 months. She loved reading and doing little work books with letters in. She had loads of toys but was always tracing, colouring, reading or doing jigsaws. My son couldn't write anything but his name, nor did he want to. He was more of an outdoor child. He could read well though. DC are different some will write and read earlier than others just as some talk and walk quicker than others.

TheSquareMile · 06/04/2024 19:18

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 15:34

@PollyPut No, she learns in the language of where we live at school

@Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday

Which language do they teach in at school, OP?

It sounds as though she will eventually be bi-lingual.

Which languages do you use at home?

thirdfiddle · 06/04/2024 19:23

OP's subsequent posts have explained the anomalies that made me guess preschool. I never said most or even very many preschoolers could write like that, only very rare ones, but certain things make it look like a child who hadn't started formal schooling. Which in fact she hasn't, so I was kind of right ...

Kalevala · 06/04/2024 19:27

I think if this was asked on an Australian site, or another English speaking country where a 5 year old may not yet be in school then answers would have been different.

Princesscounsuelabananahammock · 06/04/2024 19:29

OP the people on here saying that this was written by a preschooler are either winding you up or totally out of touch.

My dd is in Y1 at a state primary in the UK, small village school with lots of very bright kids. She's on the top table for literacy, aces all her spelling tests and only quite recently would she have spelt some of the words on your example so accurately.

As far as I know the most able of her cohort could just about write their name/a few words phonetically before starting reception and definitely wouldn't have been writing sentences so accurately.

Your child is obviously spelling very well and picking up grammar basics. I'd take that as a massive win at this age and it's likely that letter formation etc will come with practice and time although I don't see a lot wrong with it tbh. Sorry if I missed it in pp but is there something you're especially concerned about?

NewFriendlyLadybird · 06/04/2024 19:30

Up to 6. Got a backwards n there; spelling is correct though words are simple; ‘y’ is interestingly formed.

SurroundedByEejits · 06/04/2024 19:31

BrutusMcDogface · 06/04/2024 12:10

Maybe around 4-5, but the letter formation is odd, particularly the y.

I believe this is taught in America, according to friends' writing.

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