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What age would you put this child at?

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Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 12:04

For writing etc? Any teachers to give feedback would also be very helpful 🙏

What age would you put this child at?
OP posts:
caringcarer · 06/04/2024 17:38

3-4 years old. I got a rainbow card from my DGS during lockdown and he was 3 1/2 at the time and it looks similar to this handwriting.

Sugargliderwombat · 06/04/2024 17:38

Can I just say... Ive worked In reception for 12 years. Ive NEVER had a child come to school writing like this. Handwriting has been better yes, but never spelling.

Supersimkin2 · 06/04/2024 17:40

3 or 4.

caringcarer · 06/04/2024 17:41

I'd leave the writing to the school but I'd be teaching DC to read in English.

Barms155 · 06/04/2024 17:41

I live outside UK. My son started school this year age 7. Couldn't write or read. He after one semester can read and do cursive writing. I wouldn't worry or push it. Its just a different system to UK. They don't do block writing just go straight to cursive.

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 17:42

The people saying 3 or 4, are you basing this just on the writing/picture? It seems insane a child could do this at 3, my Dd was nowhere near ready for any of it

OP posts:
Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 17:43

@caringcarer That has been my thinking too, so hard to know what to do for the best

OP posts:
Kalevala · 06/04/2024 17:46

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 17:42

The people saying 3 or 4, are you basing this just on the writing/picture? It seems insane a child could do this at 3, my Dd was nowhere near ready for any of it

I did because it didn't say in the OP that the child was not due to start formal schooling until 6. I would assume UK on a UK site unless told otherwise, and the handwriting looked self taught. So I was thinking advanced three to five year old.

oakleaffy · 06/04/2024 17:47

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 17:43

@caringcarer That has been my thinking too, so hard to know what to do for the best

I really wouldn't worry.
Your daughter is clearly capable and happy and is doing stuff like this for fun.
All good signs.
As previous poster said, reading classic good quality books to her is so important so she gets a feel for grammar &c.

Reading should be a pleasure , not a chore .

My immediate neighbour is Eastern European married to an Englishman, and the DC are bilingual. Two different alphabets too.

Cyrillic and Roman alphabets.

CarpetSlipper · 06/04/2024 17:49

I would say 5 or 6 but my teenagers writing still looks like this! I used to work in a school and this seems typical of a 5 or 6 year old.

Scab99 · 06/04/2024 17:51

@Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday Reception teacher here - it looks like next step on from the emergent writing we see, so 4ish years olds. I REALLY wouldn't worry though - if writing isn't being formally taught, then the fact she has any is good. She's got a good reading level, and writing is one of these things that can fall into place very quickly when the child is developmentally ready for it. For what it's worth, I strongly believe our education system starts children far far too early, and they'd benefit far more from starting aged 7/8! Your DD will be getting so many benefits from starting later.

merryandbrightdelight · 06/04/2024 17:53

5 or 6 - if Doggy land has lots of springer spaniels, I will immediately pack my case!

Calliopespa · 06/04/2024 17:53

Cbeebiesisdifferentonasaturday · 06/04/2024 17:42

The people saying 3 or 4, are you basing this just on the writing/picture? It seems insane a child could do this at 3, my Dd was nowhere near ready for any of it

Lots of children who start reception age 4 would be putting simple sentences together by this time of the year, especially if they had been in nursery. I think the comments about age 3 were based ( mostly) on the fact that the unusual formation made it look as though it could have been copied. Some parents really push to be “ahead “ when they start school and those children could probably copy like that. But honestly, what a waste of time. If you can’t play when you are 3 the world is a gloomy thing to endure.

cheesychip · 06/04/2024 17:53

Supergirl1958 · 06/04/2024 17:35

@cheesychip

erm…it’s assessed at the end of reception and is included in the early learning goals!

fine motor skills says “Hold a pencil effectively in preparation for fluent writing – using the tripod grip in almost all cases”

writing elg says “Write recognisable letters, most of which are correctly formed”

Most of the elgs are best fit, so as this is only an aspect of it, the whole goal can be given! There’s more to it that the one above but these two aspects of two separate goals are linked! So whilst you criticise the poster and her husbands school, I’m afraid they are doing the correct thing. If they didn’t, Ofsted would fail them! But then why should that get in the way of anything!

My point was no one forms letters correctly when they're learning - a goal is just that. something to work towards. Learning isn't not being taught correctly, it's the freedom to explore and discover and practise. Her husband seemed to be saying no child should do that, they should not write until perfect. Utter tosh. This end of the year that could easily be a reception child who would go on to have lovely handwriting once they've explored the letters and shapes they can make. There is a route to the goals that needs supporting. It's not a learning statement that is expected and therefore happens. You scaffold first and support and encourage and then they will reach the goal still believing they can🙄

Bubbles332 · 06/04/2024 17:54

Hi I teach Reception and Year 1, this looks fine for 5.5 for me. They wouldn’t normally learn ‘y’ saying ‘ee’ like in ‘doggy’ until mid year 1 phonics. Don’t worry about b/d reversal, it’s developmental and will fix itself.

I’m guessing if you’re abroad they’re not strictly following a phonics scheme like we have to here and are learning to read by sight and write from memory. Handwriting will pick up, especially if she’s doing lots of writing for fun.

Just keep reading with her loads. If you want to build up her stamina for writing/work on handwriting you can get her to tell you what she wants to write and you can write it, then she can copy underneath if she wants. We used to do this in Weekend News in Reception before we had to abandon it and just do phonics all the time.

Wishlist99 · 06/04/2024 17:56

In answer to your question OP I would have said 3-4 based on writing (but noting the letters are not formed in the way that suggests structured standard UK writing teaching. Based on what my DC and classmates could do at 3-4, albeit they were at a selective private prep, with the selection process almost entirely designed around assessing readiness to hold a pencil and form letter shapes!

Calliopespa · 06/04/2024 17:57

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 06/04/2024 17:25

I wouldn' even bother guessing, for the simple reason that how they write when they are young often isn't an indication of how they'll write when they are older.m or how intelligent they are/will become.

Oh so true. In fact often the super bright can’t be bothered with handwriting even as adults!

Cheeseychangeofname · 06/04/2024 17:58

Reception or heading into reception this September.

Kalevala · 06/04/2024 17:59

Calliopespa · 06/04/2024 17:53

Lots of children who start reception age 4 would be putting simple sentences together by this time of the year, especially if they had been in nursery. I think the comments about age 3 were based ( mostly) on the fact that the unusual formation made it look as though it could have been copied. Some parents really push to be “ahead “ when they start school and those children could probably copy like that. But honestly, what a waste of time. If you can’t play when you are 3 the world is a gloomy thing to endure.

My child liked to label his pictures, he enjoyed writing at three or 4. I would spell things out for him that he wanted to write. Writing a few words while drawing a picture doesn't mean they don't play!

passthepenguin · 06/04/2024 18:03

5 or 6. I love the picture 😊

Calliopespa · 06/04/2024 18:03

mathanxiety · 06/04/2024 17:11

Yes to this.

Oh yes, yes and yes to this. It doesn’t even result in better final outcomes, just stresses tiny people.

LindorDoubleChoc · 06/04/2024 18:07

Things have changed a lot in English education if people are thinking this is written by a 3 or 4 year old! My dd was considered very advanced in her reception class and couldn't have written anything like as well as this. She was born in 2001. I worry that we are putting too much pressure on our children way too young now.

WhatTheFuckIsThat · 06/04/2024 18:08

About 3 or 4, but I know one woman who reckons her son "taught himself to read" at 2, so he was probably writing essays at 4

WittiestUsernameEver · 06/04/2024 18:08

Intriguedbythis · 06/04/2024 17:13

3-4

How many 3 to 4 year olds do you know that can spell /read the word "you" or "day" let alone write it legibly?

Seriously... ? Confused

WittiestUsernameEver · 06/04/2024 18:09

WhatTheFuckIsThat · 06/04/2024 18:08

About 3 or 4, but I know one woman who reckons her son "taught himself to read" at 2, so he was probably writing essays at 4

Seriously. How many 3-4 year olds do you know that can spell and legibly write the word "you"???