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Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

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Opol · 31/03/2024 14:20

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

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ExtraOnions · 31/03/2024 16:34

I’m Catholic, our Parish Priest handed out Chocolate Eggs this morning. The redirection in someone we should be celebrating, so what if we choose to celebrate with Chocolate (and a nice lamb lunch)

SpeedyDrama · 31/03/2024 16:35

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 16:21

No they aren’t at all. How about the Native Americans, Aboriginals and Native Canadians whom Christianity have wrecked? How about the tribes minding their own businesses who have to deal with Christian nuts turning up and trying to convert them? How about the practicing Pagans and Asatros?

Christianity has been destroying people for hundreds of years with no remorse. It is NOT the most persecuted religion.

I’m not anti-Christian, worship who you want, but religion is for you and you only.

This with bells on. And it’s still happening, missionaries who go to places with mass poverty and only ‘help’ if the people convert to Christianity. They take advantage of the most vulnerable even in this country, drug/alcohol addicts in particular.

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 16:35

candgen625 · 31/03/2024 16:30

@DanielGault if you drink ten shots from it are you are guaranteed a place in heaven!

Never made it that far alas! But maybe cumulatively 😂😂😂

Sithi · 31/03/2024 16:37

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 16:31

All Christian festivals were deliberately timed when Pagan or other (ie Roman) religious festivals happened. So Christmas, Easter, Harvest, St Valentines etc. It was done so that you would be too busy thinking about Jesus to be celebrating your old religion.

Christians also built their churches on Pagan religious spaces, like temples. That’s why they have ancient yew trees and things like emnhora in their churchyards.

It was a well conducted and deliberate campaign which was insanely successful.

Very interesting! Thank you

ManagedMove · 31/03/2024 16:37

siameselife · 31/03/2024 14:28

I agree that culturally Easter has drifted back to its pagan origins.
The Christian overlay has receded as society becomes more atheist.

This. I am an atheist, Easter is not a religious thing at all to me. Even when I was religious and had faith I really just liked chocolate eggs though...

Hotcrossbuns56 · 31/03/2024 16:38

Hello @ImInTheBathRightNow, we meet again 👋 🙂

OP, I'm not annoyed today. I'm filled with joy and have had a lovely family day (with believers and non-believers). I have followed the journey through Lent and felt very sad on Friday. But today is for celebrating.

I love Jesus and will always be grateful for what He did for us.

I hope everyone is having a chilled out Sunday (whatever you believe)

dontbelievewhatyousee · 31/03/2024 16:39

Easter celebrations are much older than Christianity

https://www.history.co.uk/articles/the-pagan-roots-of-easter

”As Christianity absorbed pagan spring traditions, the egg was also adapted to become the perfect representation of Jesus’ resurrection; the eggshell symbolising the tomb, whilst the cracking of it representing Jesus’ emergence; life-conquering death.”

The pagan roots of Easter

Some historians have argued the name derives from a pagan springtime goddess called Ēostre

https://www.history.co.uk/articles/the-pagan-roots-of-easter

MargaretThursday · 31/03/2024 16:39

Easter is celebrated at this time of year because we can date the time of year that Jesus died, because it was just after Passover-the Last Supper was their Passover feast. That's why Easter Sunday moves, because the Passover is based around the moons. I think some orthodox Christians sometimes celebrate Easter at a different time because there is a disagreement on when exactly Passover would be if it is (for us) really early.

For the Op, I went to Trafalgar Square on Good Friday to watch the Passion being performed to around 20k people over two performances. It was amazing, but also amazing that so many people were there watching, at time almost silently.

You can watch it here if you're interested:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51uqjgIUlRA

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 16:40

SpeedyDrama · 31/03/2024 16:35

This with bells on. And it’s still happening, missionaries who go to places with mass poverty and only ‘help’ if the people convert to Christianity. They take advantage of the most vulnerable even in this country, drug/alcohol addicts in particular.

Exactly.

Im not anti any religion, but when Christians start to complain about their losses of religious times it drives me bonkers because they’re always trying to erase other peoples beliefs but can never accept it happening to them.

KnittedCardi · 31/03/2024 16:41

PurBal · 31/03/2024 14:32

I get you OP. I try to remember it doesn’t matter to other people. I’ve actually been a bit disappointed this year (long story, but comes down to the fact that everyone in DH family is an atheist so I haven’t been able to go to church) and DH has promised to make it up to me. (Which is sweet but kind impossible because, you know, Easter). The thing that gets me is weddings on Good Friday and Holy Saturday, they give me the ick (there’s been a glut this year). I know it doesn’t matter to the couple, but I struggle to get enthusiastic and excited for them. It’s just grim and makes me feel physically sick, I’ve declined a wedding invite on Good Friday in the past. But I also know I’m in the minority.

I'm currently in a hotel, looking forward to a wedding this evening!

ImpendingDoom1 · 31/03/2024 16:41

I’d rather have a day of eating chocolate than celebrating the resurrection of an imaginary sky man.

Hankunamatata · 31/03/2024 16:42

Not religious. I tell me kids it's to welcome in the spring and eggs represent new life and new starts

Runor · 31/03/2024 16:42

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 16:31

All Christian festivals were deliberately timed when Pagan or other (ie Roman) religious festivals happened. So Christmas, Easter, Harvest, St Valentines etc. It was done so that you would be too busy thinking about Jesus to be celebrating your old religion.

Christians also built their churches on Pagan religious spaces, like temples. That’s why they have ancient yew trees and things like emnhora in their churchyards.

It was a well conducted and deliberate campaign which was insanely successful.

What’s emnhora? Maybe it’s a typo, but now I’m really curious!

Hankunamatata · 31/03/2024 16:42

Easter basket is madness. Same with Xmas eve box's

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 16:44

MargaretThursday · 31/03/2024 16:39

Easter is celebrated at this time of year because we can date the time of year that Jesus died, because it was just after Passover-the Last Supper was their Passover feast. That's why Easter Sunday moves, because the Passover is based around the moons. I think some orthodox Christians sometimes celebrate Easter at a different time because there is a disagreement on when exactly Passover would be if it is (for us) really early.

For the Op, I went to Trafalgar Square on Good Friday to watch the Passion being performed to around 20k people over two performances. It was amazing, but also amazing that so many people were there watching, at time almost silently.

You can watch it here if you're interested:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51uqjgIUlRA

Sorry, but this isn’t true. Easter is celebrated now because the Pagans were already celebrating the spring so they attacked their festival, as they did with all their festivals, so older religions celebrations to erode them. It’s a well known historic thing.

I am not telling people Jesus wasn’t born, I would never tell another person their beliefs aren’t true, but he wasn’t born at Christmas. They simply celebrated it then to push out Yule and other such festivities. It is thought he was born many months earlier. Easter is a similar situation.

DanielGault · 31/03/2024 16:45

Hankunamatata · 31/03/2024 16:42

Easter basket is madness. Same with Xmas eve box's

The boxes are quite fun when you have very small kids. You only get so few years so it's just lovely snuggling up with excitement. Commercial etc but have to say I liked it. Gone beyond all that now.

ImInTheBathRightNow · 31/03/2024 16:46

Runor · 31/03/2024 16:42

What’s emnhora? Maybe it’s a typo, but now I’m really curious!

It’s a typo! It’s meant to say ‘menhirs’. They were stones erected at Pagan sites of workshop and some churchyards still have them standing.

Hibernatalie · 31/03/2024 16:46

The true meaning of Easter has been lost: it was robbed by Christianity. It's a Pagan celebration of Spring. But I don't hold it against Christians, live and let live.

Surprisedbuthappy · 31/03/2024 16:46

The pagan festival celebrating spring and new life existed before the Christian celebration. There's room for both - let people enjoy whichever they like!

VolvoFan · 31/03/2024 16:47

BananaLambo · 31/03/2024 16:31

It must be very difficult living in your brain.

So rude. None the less, Happy Easter and have a nice day.

GoonieGang · 31/03/2024 16:47

OP is RC and Her religion is obviously important in her life. She is entitled to feel it has been taken over by commercialism, which it has.
Easter can be Pagan and RC can’t it?
Im atheist so have affiliation only to myself but I can respect religious ceremonies/beliefs.
Easter isn’t a what it used to be because we have other religions now that are treated as equally important and rightly so.

No religion is more superior than another.

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 16:47

It is mildly irritating, and the persistent modern fantasy that there was a cult of Ostara 'before Easter' (which presumably means before the first Passover, as described ca 600 BC, since Easter is Passover) is odd, but a lot of people don't care about history, and a lot more don't care about religion.

I just get on with doing Easter, which I welcome so much after the rigours of Lent, and ignoring the nonsense. It's the most important moment of the Christian year - I'm a bit sorry for people who miss out on that transformative moment, but that's their choice.

MuggedByReality · 31/03/2024 16:48

If christians want to observe Easter as primarily a religious occasion, that’s entirely up to them. I don’t share their religion so I have zero interest in any of that. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

It isn’t necessary to be religious, however, to dislike pointless wasteful consumerism, whether an Easter or at any other time of year.

Runor · 31/03/2024 16:49

I was shocked when dc were told by their reception teacher that chocolate eggs symbolised the stone rolled from in front of Jesus’ tomb. I mean…. It’s an egg how is that not a fertility symbol?!

Pigeon31 · 31/03/2024 16:49

DeanElderberry · 31/03/2024 16:47

It is mildly irritating, and the persistent modern fantasy that there was a cult of Ostara 'before Easter' (which presumably means before the first Passover, as described ca 600 BC, since Easter is Passover) is odd, but a lot of people don't care about history, and a lot more don't care about religion.

I just get on with doing Easter, which I welcome so much after the rigours of Lent, and ignoring the nonsense. It's the most important moment of the Christian year - I'm a bit sorry for people who miss out on that transformative moment, but that's their choice.

No, Easter is not Passover. Passover is a much older festival - it is only associated with Easter because in Christian tradition, the last supper was held on Passover.

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