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to not understand why people spend money to pollute their homes with pointless chemicals?

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tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 19:26

scent boosters, to go in laundry, air fresheners that squirt puffs of pollutants at you - the tv is full of adverts for these things, so presumably someone is buying them. I just don't get it though. Loading your family's home atmosphere with a load of unnecessary and unpleasant air pollutants, and paying for the privilege? Why?

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tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:51

Watchkeys · 30/03/2024 20:18

water and human beings are not really air pollutants

Are they other sorts of pollutants, though? Is is just air pollutants you have a problem with? In other people's houses?

Why are you making these distinctions? Humans pollute. Water is a chemical made of chemicals and full of chemicals. What you're doing is judging people because they like things that you don't like, @tomorrowisanotherdate

We are talking about the pollutant load in our homes. Neither of these do that. Outside of homes, water is a greenhouse gas. That is not what this thread is about. I am specifically talking about the pointless and unnecessary toxins we are exposing ourselves to inside out home by polluting the air with all these chemicals , and paying for them!

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DuploTrain · 30/03/2024 20:53

It is quite concerning how permanent the scent boosters are. I buy things off Vinted and even after I’ve washed them you can still smell the scent boosters. Something that potent doesn’t seem like it would be great to breathe in too much.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:54

User56785 · 30/03/2024 20:49

*Ok, so if I’m not allergic to, say, a Glade Plug-In, it’s not a pollutant.

But if I am allergic to peanuts or eggs or milk, they are pollutants.

Got it!*

Surely you can understand that people other than you can be allergic to things that you are putting out there.

I thought only Kim Jong Un thought that the world revolves around him.

Well yes, that’s my point. People react differently to different things. That doesn’t make the things pollutants.

I suspect Kim Jong Un is strongly opposed to air fresheners.

ImAlwaysknackered · 30/03/2024 20:54

Oreosareawful · 30/03/2024 19:34

I love fairy scent boosters! My laundry smells amazing.
I also love Zoflora, wax melts, plug ins, reed diffusers….
it smells nice and it smells clean

Don’t know how you’re still alive with all these poisonous chemicals!

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:55

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:43

I think we’re heading into natural v ‘artificial’ chemicals here.

speak for yourself, I am not

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KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:55

@tomorrowisanotherdate are you an Enjo rep perchance? They talk a lot about pollutant and/or chemical loads and also tell us how 'clean has no smell'. They forget that some of us hate laundry and/or cleaning and a subtle pleasant smell makes it less tedious to do.

Ambergrease · 30/03/2024 20:55

My house is a haven from allergens - no pets, the plainest unscented non bio, no fabric conditioners, no air fresheners.

I love coming back to it, the rest of the world is so itchy and wheezy.

But I don’t have a problem with people who like strong smells or who have pets, I just can’t spend long in their houses.

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:56

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:40

Ok, so if I’m not allergic to, say, a Glade Plug-In, it’s not a pollutant.

But if I am allergic to peanuts or eggs or milk, they are pollutants.

Got it!

No Glade plug in is still a pollutant. It doesn't stop being harmful and toxic just because you personally like it

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Jellybean85 · 30/03/2024 20:56

TinySaltLick · 30/03/2024 19:30

Perfume is the same

Tbh I feel the same with music and art - life is about sensing as little as possible

GrinGrinGrin

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:57

Astartn · 30/03/2024 20:47

I do open my windows but I find that it’s a bit polluted outside anyway so I don’t feel the air is as fresh as could be in my town and I live near a busy road. It’s different when I go up north- I can smell the fresh air if I open the window.

Not so much here, so it’s better for me to close the windows and then I do feel I need some kind of scent booster for a few hours now and again! It does give me a sore head if I leave my plug in on too long but then, so do essential oils.

Edited

Pollution inside is quite often worse than outside, because of all these chemicals we are talking about

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KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:57

ImAlwaysknackered · 30/03/2024 20:54

Don’t know how you’re still alive with all these poisonous chemicals!

I suspect she's not eating most of them, though might be 'nose blind' to the smell overload.

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:58

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:47

Hardly. They’re not pumping out Chernobyl reactor gases.

And plenty of people like the smell. You know, like some people prefer one sort of food to another. That sort of thing. But with smells.

somebody liking the smell of something does not stop it being a pollutant

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WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:58

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:55

speak for yourself, I am not

Oh, right. I was just trying to establish what makes some compounds chemicals and other compounds not chemicals.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:59

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:56

No Glade plug in is still a pollutant. It doesn't stop being harmful and toxic just because you personally like it

They will have passed rigorous safety tests though, so while many of us don't like them, it's also not realistic to label their use, especially in moderation, as 'harmful and toxic'.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 21:00

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:58

Oh, right. I was just trying to establish what makes some compounds chemicals and other compounds not chemicals.

I don't think OP said some compounds were chemicals and some were not, did she?

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:01

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:59

They will have passed rigorous safety tests though, so while many of us don't like them, it's also not realistic to label their use, especially in moderation, as 'harmful and toxic'.

Yeah, that’s really the gist of it. I doubt there’s any evidence of harm from these products even if some find them unpleasant.

ImAlwaysknackered · 30/03/2024 21:01

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:57

I suspect she's not eating most of them, though might be 'nose blind' to the smell overload.

According to some we don’t need to ingest them for them to poison us with their chemical nastiness.

I do open my windows but we live rurally, the air smells like cow shit/slurry and not at all fresh. 😂

I had to actually ask someone on Vinted what their washing combo was as it smelt so nice. 😁

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 21:01

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:58

Oh, right. I was just trying to establish what makes some compounds chemicals and other compounds not chemicals.

Nobody anywhere has said any compounds are not chemicals.

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tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 21:02

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:01

Yeah, that’s really the gist of it. I doubt there’s any evidence of harm from these products even if some find them unpleasant.

They are classed as pollutants because they are polluting. ie harmful and toxic

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WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:03

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 21:02

They are classed as pollutants because they are polluting. ie harmful and toxic

How do you know they’re harmful and toxic?

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:03

@tomorrowisanotherdate can you provide any sources for this?

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:09

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 21:00

I don't think OP said some compounds were chemicals and some were not, did she?

Yes, you’re right. It’s not so much the ‘chemicals’ as ‘pointless’.

I’m unsure what a pointless chemical is. If it does the job of creating a smell that someone likes it’s hard to see how it’s pointless.

daisychain01 · 30/03/2024 21:09

you're not wrong OP. You only have to look in the supermarkets nowadays, making your home smell like LUSH is big business. It's the equivalent of UPF, but people will ignore all the evidence because it tastes nice (UPF) or it smells nice [home fragrances]? I've stopped buying all the branded washing gels and liquids, they make me feel ill:

Source: https://madesafe.org/pages/mission-vision

Air fresheners are a source of indoor air pollution and either directly emit or cause the formation of numerous substances associated with negative health effects. In studies measuring the different substances that air fresheners emit, researchers have found numerous chemicals associated with toxic effects.

These include: volatile organic compounds (VOCs),[5]benzene,[6] formaldehyde,[7] toluene,[8] m,p-xylene,[9] phthalates,[10] and more. For example, formaldehyde, a known carcinogen, has been measured at high levels. Levels were found to be even higher when air quality was measured during simultaneous use of multiple scented products (cleaning products, air fresheners, and perfume).[11] High concentrations of VOCs[12] have been measured in the emissions from numerous air freshener types too, including sprays, plug-ins, solids, and more.[13]

Mission / Vision

MADE SAFE® is the only human health and ecosystem-focused product certification program. We do not compromise on ingredient safety. Our mission is to revolutionize how consumer products are made, thereby eliminating the use of harmful chemicals from th...

https://madesafe.org/pages/mission-vision

Meowandthen · 30/03/2024 21:10

I’m fussy about scents and don’t like the standard air fresheners or understand why laundry has to smell so strong.

BUT the anti science claims from some are ridiculous. For those at the back:

Everything is a chemical and poison is in the dosage.

Zoflora is nasty stuff though and there seems to be a bit of an obsession with air fresheners, laundry scents etc judging by the amount of TV adverting I saw when in the UK a few months ago. I found it quite odd.

Meowandthen · 30/03/2024 21:11

daisychain01 · 30/03/2024 21:09

you're not wrong OP. You only have to look in the supermarkets nowadays, making your home smell like LUSH is big business. It's the equivalent of UPF, but people will ignore all the evidence because it tastes nice (UPF) or it smells nice [home fragrances]? I've stopped buying all the branded washing gels and liquids, they make me feel ill:

Source: https://madesafe.org/pages/mission-vision

Air fresheners are a source of indoor air pollution and either directly emit or cause the formation of numerous substances associated with negative health effects. In studies measuring the different substances that air fresheners emit, researchers have found numerous chemicals associated with toxic effects.

These include: volatile organic compounds (VOCs),[5]benzene,[6] formaldehyde,[7] toluene,[8] m,p-xylene,[9] phthalates,[10] and more. For example, formaldehyde, a known carcinogen, has been measured at high levels. Levels were found to be even higher when air quality was measured during simultaneous use of multiple scented products (cleaning products, air fresheners, and perfume).[11] High concentrations of VOCs[12] have been measured in the emissions from numerous air freshener types too, including sprays, plug-ins, solids, and more.[13]

Apples contain formaldehyde. Best keep away from them.

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