Which driver(s) were unreasonable (with diagram!)

[CroccyWoccy]

Trivial incident but I know mumsnet loves an AIBU with cars and diagrams so I consider this a public service.

Busy junction with nose to tail traffic on the main road. Car A (me) is signalling to turn right into side road. Car C is on the side road signalling to turn right into the main road. Car B is proceeding straight on on the main road in the opposite direction to Car A.

Car C moves forward as far as it can in the traffic, blocking Car A’s route into the side road. As the car in front of Car C moves forward creating some space, Car B then moves forward across Car C’s lane, but can’t complete the turn because Car A (me) is still waiting to turn right.

There is now a three-way blockage with no car able to move.

There are cars behind all three cars so no-one can reverse.

Car A (me) manages to get us out of the impasse by mounting the pavement behind Car C in order to complete the right turn.

Which cars were the most U?

This, to me, seems like the clearest description of the situation and what should have happened

C absolutely should not have crossed the line until the road was clear to progress onto, although real life often makes that difficult. B, if in traffic and stationary, should not have blocked your progression into side road.

If B had left room for you to complete your manoeuvre then C would have been able to come out behind you.

B and C at fault. If B blocked you before C crossed line then B most at fault. If C moved first then C most at fault.

car A massively unreasonable.

you must not ever mount the pavement ever.

Yes. When our presence causes others to possibly adjust their actions, we are being a hazard.

'Most' of us?
How can you speak for 'most of us'?

I’d also want to know who was there first between Car A and Car C.

We have a similar junction near to where I live and if someone is already in Car C’s position and I’m turning right like Car A, if the traffic is slow moving I will let Car C out as a courtesy.

Because most of us don't have time to sit all day in a side road waiting for 2-4 lanes of traffic to be clear.

Although just to add, Car C in my situation is a pain as all they need to do is turn left to head to the roundabout a little further down the road!

Ah well, 'most' of you might end up being held responsible for the costs of the inevitable accidents.
In practice folk don't have to wait that long, because a kind driver is more likely to let another car out if they don't force their way (and if it's safe to do so).

In practice folk don't have to wait that long

You speaking for all people?

B & C were both unreasonable here. B shouldn’t have blocked the junction but C shouldn’t have pushed in either

I have same junction every day and I’m car A.
C is U.
B has priority, then A and last C.

You don't answer when I call you out but you feel qualified to then call me out?
Wow, you've won me over now.
Just stop.

😂

You stop.

I did answer you. You're the one who took offence at something that didn't apply to you. "Most" doesn't mean "all". If you are not someone who creeps and peeps at junctions, then what I said had nothing to do with you.

I drive on a road where car C pulls out because there are issues with visability to the left meaning they have to edge out to get a view of the main road to the left. Usualy car A and car B wait back so car C can join the road, car A can then turn right and B continues straight ahead. Not the normal order of priority but it keeps the traffic flowing in that circumstance.

C shouldn’t have edged out. However if I was car b I’d have left a gap so A could turn right and C could get out. So they were an arse.

saying that I saw something similar where b did leave a gap and A turned right and hit a cyclist coming up the inside.

Stop. Stop. Stop.
Oh yes, and stop assuming too.

Nope. I have every right to post on this thread and respond to people who make comments to me.

Repetition for emphasis.
Right of way doesn't exist.
Do not block any junctions in stationary traffic.

You do.
(Keep digging though).
Tschüss.

Car B has right of way but if the road ahead of him was blocked he should not have obstructed the junction. You could have the completed your right turn and car c could have started his right turn once you were out of the way. Cars A and C were both being unreasonable C was the worst.
It just an example of very poor driving standards in this country

B is a dick. In stationary traffic you’re not supposed to come to a stop blocking the side road. You stop before the side road so that other traffic can enter and exit freely.

Car B is wrong. There's a Highway Code rule that in slow moving traffic you shouldn't block side roads. If car B had stayed put when the gap opened up, both car A and car C would have been able to complete their manoeuvres.

It's mindless driving, sitting in traffic, edging along, not being aware of what's going on around you. Selfish and potentially dangerous.

😂😂😂

Most people I hope would check they weren’t doing it as a car was turning right and thus blocking their path.

@CroccyWoccy

Car A: is blocking Cars C and B from moving and has options. they also had no hazard perception and should have stopped before the junction to allow C to leave they did not, blocking both C and B in a situation they could not fix. A also illegally mounted the pavement.

Car B: was moving in a straight-line and legally did not have to leave any gaps, morally they could have.

Car C: Pulled out into the traffic when there was no gap, but they obviously pulled out enough to reach the far side, but some random person not looking what they were doing blocked them, from exiting on the far side. (car A).

Car A, was the only car that could rectify this position by either stopping before the junction or having courtesy to see there was an issue and continue and turn around. Allowing car C to exit and B to move forward. Instead A decided to illegally mount the pavement due to their impatience and incompetence.

A is the biggest at fault, followed by C, then B.