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To be shocked that Derek Draper didn’t qualify for NHS Continuing Healthcare

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Mum1976Mum · 29/03/2024 23:50

Just sat down to watch the latest Kate Garraway documentary. I am absolutely shocked that Derek didn’t qualify for NHS Continuing Healthcare funding as his needs weren’t deemed high enough. This funding isn’t means tested so how much money they have isn’t relevant.

I have some experience of this as we had to claim for my grandad about 8 years ago. He had sarcoma and had to have his leg amputated. He had a prosthesis fitted and was actually pretty active! He could do a lot of things for himself but struggled with self care (showering) and he qualified for the funding.

I honestly thought that, should the worst happen, and someone needed a substantial amount of care that they would qualify. Watching the documentary, Derek needed help with absolutely everything! How on earth did he not qualify?

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AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 12/04/2024 11:19

@SloaneStreetVandal in my area of Scotland it’s 18 months-2years wait list for a care at home package, district nurses are plugging the gaps under the guise of ‘health and social care partnerships’. We are role
it will only be short term it never is and this includes those who could afford to pay for private carers and would get them much quicker they would rather wait and have district nurses fill in but get irate when we can’t offer anything more than a morning visit. We also have many moving here for ‘free personal care’ but we don’t have the carers to provide it 🤷‍♀️

pam290358 · 12/04/2024 11:43

Tahinii · 08/04/2024 16:01

The threshold is £23,250 and has been for years and I think should be reviewed but that’s by the by!

Some care homes charge a huge amount due to the facilities and services they offer. They do not accept the set local authority rate. If your local authority has a set rate of £900 per week, for example, but you’ve chosen a posh home that costs £3500 per week AND the home doesn’t accept the LA rate, it’s problematic. The council may agree to pay the full weekly rate but it is dependent on circumstances. If you’ve lived there 5 years, are 98 years old and completely cared for in bed and have advanced dementia, moving someone would be unfair. If you’re 75 and moved there 6 months ago for physical care needs only, you may well find yourself with a dilemma.

Actually the £23,250 is the upper threshold at which the LA will pay part of the care costs. The £14,250 I quoted is the lower threshold, at which all of the care costs are paid. And I did qualify the rest by saying that if the home accepts LA funded residents then the LA will take over the funding once the lower threshold is reached.

Tahinii · 12/04/2024 20:35

pam290358 · 12/04/2024 11:43

Actually the £23,250 is the upper threshold at which the LA will pay part of the care costs. The £14,250 I quoted is the lower threshold, at which all of the care costs are paid. And I did qualify the rest by saying that if the home accepts LA funded residents then the LA will take over the funding once the lower threshold is reached.

I’m confused because I wasn’t quoting you!

Even if a person has under £14,250 in capital, the LA will not necessarily pay all of the care costs. A person’s income will be assessed and they will likely pay a client contribution towards their care. These days, very few people are nil contribution to their social care.

calmnights · 13/04/2024 15:32

Wakemeup20 · 30/03/2024 19:30

This isn’t the children requirements at all
you require one severe OR 2 highs
and trach / vent is a severe.

Your area must be using different criteria to the National Framework. 148 in this document - a child is likely to have CC needs if they have at least 1 severe or priority or 3 high. As you will also be able to see that document also shows sometimes tracheostomy or vent is high, sometimes severe, sometimes priority and sometimes NIV is moderate.

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