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To put her back in nappies at 6??

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inneedofaglowup · 24/03/2024 22:11

She still pees the bed. I have tried everything. I take her to the toilet at night, I give her no drink before bed. I've had to throw 2 mattresses away because of this. I've told her if she has the urge to pee to shout mummy and I'll take her toilet. Nothing works. I didn't have this issue with my other two. And it's only at night, no issues with going to the toilet in the day. I'm thinking to just put her back in a nappy at night because I'm at my wits end and I can't be getting a new mattress every other month and stripping the bed everyday.

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Mummame2222 · 25/03/2024 09:35

inneedofaglowup · 24/03/2024 22:32

I have the waterproof mattress protector and the mats you've recommended. Unfortunately she moves around the bed so much the dry mats don't always stay under her. I just think she's so deep in her sleep that she just doesn't wake up to go to the toilet.

Mattress protector is a whole sheet.

Mummame2222 · 25/03/2024 09:36

inneedofaglowup · 25/03/2024 08:20

Thanks everyone super helpful. Just to reiterate I don't think I was clear in my last post I have the waterproof mattress protector and the full sheet again waterproof and on top of that the dry mats. They still leak through. But I'll be going to the shops today to get her the pull ups. Someone mentioned no squash and my DD loves squash so cutting that is my next priority!

Then put 2/3 mattress protectors on with a nice comfy normal sheet over it.

CloningTheSheep · 25/03/2024 09:39

DS was closer to 7 before he was dry - a really deep sleeper. Teenager now and no wet beds for many years. It'll happen. We kept him in pull ups at night, any other method just resulted in soaked sheets.

Once in a blue moon my tween will wet the bed. We just keep mattress protectors on all mattresses including ours in case a DC comes into our bed and wets it!!

Dunelm has good plastic backed waterproof under sheets. Maybe put 2 on? I can't believe they're soaking the mattress if they're good quality ones.

CloningTheSheep · 25/03/2024 09:40

Younger two children are much lighter sleepers and were dry at night by 3/4. Definitely related to deep sleepers.

Ryeman · 25/03/2024 09:48

We tried an alarm when DS1 was about 5 or 6. Bought it from Amazon. It worked brilliantly and he was dry within a week. But you need to be on board with leaping out of bed the second it goes off and getting them to the loo. Until then, pullups are fine.

Mouldyfoot · 25/03/2024 09:48

It’s not her fault, speak to the Eric charity

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 25/03/2024 09:54

I think the key here is what does your daughter want?

I had two boys who were wetting in the night till about 7; one was happy to wear pull ups, the other would have rather died. For both, we layered the beds - so plastic sheet, puppy pad, plastic sheet, puppy pad, normal sheet. Never had an issue with it getting through to the mattress - try Ikea ones, they're really good and flocked on the upper side so they don't crinkle and are comfy to lie on.

Don't put her back in nappies if it would embarrass or upset her. It's not her fault!

Rosscameasdoody · 25/03/2024 09:55

Amazon sell the Kylie sheets they use in hospitals and nursing homes. They come in packs of two, so you always have one spare. They have a thick, waterproof pad of soft cotton that sits over the bottom sheet and there are fabric ‘wings’ on either side that tuck in under the mattress so they can’t move. My mum has dementia and wets the bed, and these have been a life saver - you just whip them off and put them in the wash. Longer term I think I would be seeing your GP and asking if they could maybe refer her to continence services. They deal with all ages and had some really good ‘outside the box’ thinking when it came to mum.

SauronsArsehole · 25/03/2024 09:58

Practically, go to a charity shop and buy a load of second hand sheets so you have plenty of spares. Ditto mattress protectors.
stick to just one duvet on the bed. Ditch everything else if you can.

I bought a cheap single duvet for mine and cut it in half and stitched it up. Still plenty big enough for DC but smaller and easier to wash daily.
Didn’t bother with a duvet cover because it was washed every day.
worked a treat for reducing my work as I was only washing half a duvet a day. And always had a dry spare ready to go. this might not be suitable for your situation however reducing the size of the blankets etc will make your work load easier.

Mammajay · 25/03/2024 09:59

I wet the bed occasionally till I was 11. I used to dream that I had been to the toilet then wake up in a soggy bed. It was so distressing. I would ask her if she would be happy wearing special pants.. don't use the word nappy.

RaraRachael · 25/03/2024 10:06

Sorry no help really but my son was still wetting the bed at night at 10. NOTHING worked - he saw the nurse specialist who gave him sticker charts and other stuff, he had a buzzer that went off when he peed but it woke everybody else in the house and he'd just be fast asleep oblivious to it.
Suddenly he just stopped. No idea why.

Joleyne · 25/03/2024 10:06

Remember that your DD will be doing sleepovers and Brownie holidays soon and that can be very awkward if she's still in pull ups.

DD still wets the bed sometimes. She's 14.
I stopped using pull ups after one of the kids saw them on Brownie holiday and told all the others.

We manage it by using a waterproof mattress cover, and a second waterproof protector or bed mat that we got from ERIC. I tried the waterproof covers for duvets, but she hated them and said they made her too hot.
If she's away, she takes waterproof sheets with her and we warn the staff so they know she needs to be discrete.
Surprisingly, she's never wet the bed when she's away, I think she doesn't sleep as deeply then.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/03/2024 10:09

Rosscameasdoody · 25/03/2024 09:55

Amazon sell the Kylie sheets they use in hospitals and nursing homes. They come in packs of two, so you always have one spare. They have a thick, waterproof pad of soft cotton that sits over the bottom sheet and there are fabric ‘wings’ on either side that tuck in under the mattress so they can’t move. My mum has dementia and wets the bed, and these have been a life saver - you just whip them off and put them in the wash. Longer term I think I would be seeing your GP and asking if they could maybe refer her to continence services. They deal with all ages and had some really good ‘outside the box’ thinking when it came to mum.

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Sorry forgot to say, I’ve never had any issues with any leakage from the Kylie sheets - the bed underneath is always bone dry. There are also patterned duvets available from JustLinen online. I have two for mum and they’re pretty much washed every other day and stand up to it really well. Saves the faff of washing duvet covers as well as the duvets themselves. Alternatively there are waterproof duvet protectors from Dunelm - white waterproof cotton and zip on before you put the duvet cover on. They’re sponge clean and stop the pee from going through to the duvet.

DinnaeFashYersel · 25/03/2024 10:12

Pull ups rather than nappies.

Pulls ups are better do that she can go to the loo if she wakes.

You can't train night time dryness. She needs to be producing a hormone that wakes her up.

Don't make this a thing. It will happen when it happens.

GP won't be concerned until age 7/8

MummySam2017 · 25/03/2024 10:12

Rosscameasdoody · 25/03/2024 09:55

Amazon sell the Kylie sheets they use in hospitals and nursing homes. They come in packs of two, so you always have one spare. They have a thick, waterproof pad of soft cotton that sits over the bottom sheet and there are fabric ‘wings’ on either side that tuck in under the mattress so they can’t move. My mum has dementia and wets the bed, and these have been a life saver - you just whip them off and put them in the wash. Longer term I think I would be seeing your GP and asking if they could maybe refer her to continence services. They deal with all ages and had some really good ‘outside the box’ thinking when it came to mum.

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I use/have used these with both my kids. They’re fab!

OP, do what works best for you all. Have you read the gently potty training book by Sarah O? From what I remember, she also lists some foods that can trigger night time wetting. My DD was dry at night from 2 and a half, my son is nearly 4 and still has some small wees at night, we use the pad inserts and the Kylie sheets. Each child is different.

PlasticineKing · 25/03/2024 10:14

I’ve not RTfT, but why would you take her out of pull ups at night in the first place? Surely you wait until they’re ready?

DinnaeFashYersel · 25/03/2024 10:16

Remember that your DD will be doing sleepovers and Brownie holidays soon and that can be very awkward if she's still in pull ups

I stopped using pull ups after one of the kids saw them on Brownie holiday and told all the others

Then the brownie leaders didn't manage that well.

I'm a beavers leader and there's usually half a dozen boys and girls who need to wear pull ups.

We make sure that toilets, showers, bedtimes are managed to protect their privacy.

beautifulnightmare · 25/03/2024 10:21

Agree about there needing to be a hormone present so we used bed wetting management techniques, ie:
Take DC to the toilet around 11pm/midnight to go to the loo. My DC used to stay asleep so we had to clean him up and he could walk back to bed himself somehow. The difficulty was knowing when to stop doing this as we did it every single day.
Dry nites pyjama pants to catch any accidents
Dry nites bed mats just in case.

RocketDog101 · 25/03/2024 10:22

Have you contacted School Nurse for a referal to Continence Team? They don't usually show much concern until 7 but would be a way of having support if continues. Also, how is her drinking in the day?

I have a child whom is mostly dry in day (occasionally left until last minute or requires an urgent visit that means a little dribble) but not at night - they have tried going pull up free but are distressed and sore from the wet bedding. They are so traumatised from the interference of well meaning help that they are now scared of being without a pull up and won't sleep (this child will and has!) at all. After filling out a diary for School Nurse they referred to Continence Team whom discussed what had been tried and how their drinking was in day. They are awful at drinking mind but even on days they weren't, it was as tough.

There is medication available (after exhausting above) that can help but isn't effective if the child's body isn't ready. My child is 9 and is far from lazy/in poor habits. They use a pull up, have pads under sheet (won't sleep on top of), and I have a layer like this on the bed from the mattress: waterproof mattress protector, mattress protector, mattress topper, mattress protector, pad, sheet, protector, pad, sheet, blanket (likes the feeling and would quickly absorb. If pull up leaks (happens sometimes) then I remove blanket, sheet and pad (if pad has moved, then by then the protector has done its job so will remove that too) then add another blanket.

If your child is distressed by the wetness, then offer a pull up as protection (mine is ASC so is very distressed by the sensation); if they are OK with the wetness and just need help getting sorted, then I'm afraid the layering may have to do. For quickness, try just wiping over with a warm flannel and showering in the morning (not sure how often she wakes or how affects her sleep/school). The issue is that if you go back to pull ups, it may be harder to get her out of them again or relaying to her friends (children aren't always kind - mine chooses not to share, their right). I understand its tough on you but you don't want to add another hurdle. Your daughter may not be ready yet or she may need a little more support to help her body 'learn', but at 6, they likely wont offer much more than time and a check in later 😀

N27 · 25/03/2024 10:23

I haven’t read all the replies but there is an nhs service that helps with this. I’d never heard of it until I saw it on Facebook my 10 year old used to wet the bed. They loaned me a bedwetting alarm for 6 weeks and it completely worked she’s never done it since x

popofyellow · 25/03/2024 10:26

DinnaeFashYersel · 25/03/2024 10:12

Pull ups rather than nappies.

Pulls ups are better do that she can go to the loo if she wakes.

You can't train night time dryness. She needs to be producing a hormone that wakes her up.

Don't make this a thing. It will happen when it happens.

GP won't be concerned until age 7/8

This!

Greendoorsaremyfavourite · 25/03/2024 10:29

Ds was wet at night until he was 7, though was dry during the day by 3. We got referred to the specialist team (I can't remember the name) who gave us some tips & medication. The medication didn't work, but he eventually grew out of it (the hormone that controls urine output at night kicked in). We did end up going back to pull ups because the wetting was making his eczema worse.

Shopper727 · 25/03/2024 10:29

@inneedofaglowup Eric the continence website has a shop - we used to get brolly sheets but they have gone but Eric do similar massive washable pads that you tuck in over her sheet. Duvet protectors etc I’ve not had a proper look but I I need to order some bits for me son who has Sen and still wets. 12 so can be full on. We have a Terry waterproof cover, brolly sheet over it covers on all pillows etc and the.duvet I need a spare. And he wears pull up and is just about out of the 8-14 size which is fun.

it doesn’t even wake him up, it’s really tough and I feel like I’m washing bedding etc constantly. We avoid fizzy/diluting juices especially post tea time he has water or milk. He goes right before bed too. Obviously my son has a special need but I was a bed wetter too and I grew out of it my mum used to get so frustrated with me though. I couldn’t help it. You just really need to get some heavy duty continence stuff to save you mattresses etc

Bignanny30 · 25/03/2024 10:32

They wouldn’t sell ‘dry nights’ or similar products for children over 6 if this wasn’t something that happens quite normally with lots of kids. So just get some for her, but don’t think just because she’s wearing protective night ware that she doesn’t need to go to the loo before bed and still tell her to call you if she wants to go in the night. She’ll eventually go through the night dry.

sashh · 25/03/2024 10:34

I was taken to the GP because I was still wetting the bed. Strangely it was always early morning and would wake me up.

The GP suggested my mum bought a diary for me. If I was dry at night I put a tick in the diary. There was no comment on whether I was dry or not.

When I had 7 ticks in a row I could chose a present.

You can also get alarms https://www.cht.nhs.uk/services/clinical-services/childhood-wetting-paediatric-enuresis/using-alarms

Using Alarms - CHFT

Using Alarms

https://www.cht.nhs.uk/services/clinical-services/childhood-wetting-paediatric-enuresis/using-alarms

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