To put her back in nappies at 6??

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She still pees the bed. I have tried everything. I take her to the toilet at night, I give her no drink before bed. I've had to throw 2 mattresses away because of this. I've told her if she has the urge to pee to shout mummy and I'll take her toilet. Nothing works. I didn't have this issue with my other two. And it's only at night, no issues with going to the toilet in the day. I'm thinking to just put her back in a nappy at night because I'm at my wits end and I can't be getting a new mattress every other month and stripping the bed everyday.

have even tried the alarm but the wake ups were impacting her at school so we are going to try that again in the summer holidays

I am absolutely amazed that that alarm is still going.

My sister, with whom I shared a room and occasionally a bed, was a "later" bed wetter. I was around standard (I think); it was used on us and I still, decades later, don't sleep deeply or in a relaxed manner because of that alarm.

It trained me to expect to be woken suddenly & violently out of my sleep at any moment.

I told a Polish ex bf about it and he was totally shocked and thought it's use was a form of child abuse.

There is a charity that deals with this and they say you must use a bed alarm. I had to use it with both of my kids. After a few alarms they learn to wake up before they are actually weeing. It took about a week and then they were dry forever.

@Xenoi24

Likewise.

As I said earlier I wet the bed till I was 14.

I cannot think of anything WORSE than some stupid alarm.

What, is the bed wetter suppose to magically be wide awake and instantly clamp their bladder shut.

Bed wetters are not just lazy, or heavy sleepers. I was a heavy sleeper but the issue is hormonal, and no fucking alarm is going to fix that.

I haven't RTFT but wanted to say, I sympathise with you, my youngest was like this until about 6, I think he slept so deeply the urge to go wasn't waking him up. I found the bed mats just moved around so i bought an incontinence mat which was bigger amd stayed put and a duvet that can be machine washed, as well as a waterproof mattress protector. Could all then be bunged in the machine. Hang in there x

My third child has/had this issue OP.

The other two were dry overnight before they were 3. He is 7. Is nothing he or I are doing wrong.

He had been dry overnight then started wetting again at 5.

We went to the GP who referred him to paediatrics. She prescribed Detrusitol. It stopped happening within about two weeks.

One thing I did find helpful before trying meds (and I’m sure cheaper than disposable pull ups overall), is buying cloth bed wetting boxers from cheeky wipes (I’m sure they do knickers too). Most of the time any leaks would be contained, and so i didn’t need to strip the whole bed. Despite our best efforts DS was MORTIFIED about the situation but completely horrified at the idea of pull ups etc. These look like ‘normal’ boxers and so he felt much less embarrassed and they were easy to quickly put on a rinse in the machine and then chuck in a normal wash, so no hassle for me.

No, they absolutely don’t. Weeee sounds like you are on a rollercoaster.

Eh?

The alarm can be effective for some kids. I think the ones who it's happening because that aren't waking up when they need a wee. The hormonal element is about vasopressin making less urine at night, so you wee less... but if you DO need a wee, you need to wake up when you feel the urge, and some kids don't wake up to that urge. I was soo anti-alarm and thought it sounded awful and as a pp have said, quite abusive/blaming. And it can certainly be used in that way if a parent is cross, or using it almost as a punishment, or because THEY are fed up of bedwetting rather than the child.

But there are some circumstances where it's not a bad thing. In our case my son desperately wanted out of nappies and was waking up regularly as he found them uncomfortable/found being wet uncomfortable, but if he didn't wear them he wet through everything fully which was also super disruptive. He had also been dry almost a year at around 3/4 before this restarted suggesting to me the hormonal element actually was there. He wanted to go on the overnight school trip, but not if he had to take pull ups, despite my assurances he would almost certainly not be the only child (he is year 2). So he was motivated to give it a go and there was no element of shame. And actually it does precisely what you said, somehow gets the signal to the brain in a way it hadn't before, and we could tell it was working as he started waking up mid wee and going to finish it. You stop using the alarm within a couple of weeks of dryness and he is now happy, sleeps 100x better. He still very very occasionally wets and we do what we always have, make no big deal of it.

So it's just plain wrong to act like an alarm is so terrible. In the right circumstances it's not, and it doesn't need to be traumatising. I can see how it could be used in that way though.

Have you tried an alarm? https://amzn.eu/d/3EoO0As
Worked wonders for a friend of ours. I would not put a 6 year old in nappies. I feel your pain though, our DD suffers with severe constipation, so we have chunks of poo in pants most weeks. It's hideous.

I’ve worked with children as a Nanny and development advisor for many years. Some children are dry through the night at 18 month and some not until they are 7. It’s obviously uncommon at 6/7 but I’ve met many families with this problem over the years. I would always put a child into pull-ups at night until they are regularly waking up dry. It’s really distressing for them to wake up wet, when it is completely out of their control. They can’t be trained to wake up when they need the toilet - their body will do it when they are ready. Try not to make any deal about it in front of your child, the last thing you want is for them to feel embarrassed or ashamed. I would go see the GP if it’s not happened by 7.

For info it’s red/purple squash that is the issue, not orange etc. But that alone is not making your DD wet the bed so maybe if you’re taking on board what @Notimeforaname said about being ‘parched’ don’t make a big deal of restricting drinks either.

I'd absolutely put her in pull ups. I used pull ups until my daughter was dry overnight for 7 consecutive days. There's no point in the waking up wet every night unnecessarily.

DS2 wet the bed until he was 10. Ironically he was dry during the day at about 21 months (not my doing with potty training) he wanted to wear big boys pants like his older brother and was very determined. It didn’t matter if we stopped drinks after a certain time, took him to the toilet before we went to bed, he used to go into such a deep sleep he wouldn’t wake up.

I used plastic sheets under his bed sheet and pampers sheets to save the mattress.

DS1 was dry both day and night completely by 2 years 6 months.

Hang in there, it will get better.

Bedwetting alarm. They can work really quickly and worth a try. Also do lots of layers of sheets, waterproof mattress covers, rubber covers etc.

We were told it can be hereditary and some of our wider family members were wet at night until age 12. We used pull ups and then bed mats when it was down to once a week - probably for about a year until we had about 6months of totally dry nights. I’ve been told it’s both hormonal and physical, the last part of the body to develop is a valve from the bladder or in the urethra( I’m not sure). We just told our DCs not to worry, we knew they wanted to be dry - by age 10 they’d both grown out of it. We only had a couple of Incidents after that when they were ill and in deep sleeps. It’s part of growing up - don’t stress. When the DCs started sleep overs, there were others in their classes whose mums told us discreetly that they had pull ups too - at around age 9

Waterproof sheets and dry nites pants are what worked for DNephew - he went through stages where he wet the bed or didn't.

If you can get a doctor's appointment, seek medical assistance.

No squash and no water or any other drinks beyond a certain time.

Be very careful NOT to shame your child about wetting bed.
It happens in her SLEEP.
She is not doing it on purpose.
Bed wetting can be a sign of anxiety/severe anxiety in a child i.e. other problems she may have..

You need to have a look on the Eric website and speak to your gp. My understanding is that children don’t usually wet the bed in deep sleep - their bladders should effectively turn off/significantly slow in deep sleep - but they actually more often wet the bed when they are not getting quality sleep. We had the same problem with my ds and he had obstructive sleep apnoea so was wetting when he was waking enough for his bladder to kick in but not enough for him to be with it enough to register what was happening and go to the toilet. Once the obstructive sleep apnoea was resolved (by removing his tonsils) his bet wetting stopped completely.

When I was doing my nursery nurse training we were taught it was best not to lift them at night, but if you do lift them, make sure they are fully awake, otherwise you're training them to pee in their sleep.

Sometimes our pituitary needs a bit of a bump to start the hormone that’s needed to stopnwetting the bed

i recommend the alarm thing. Next I’d recommend desmopressin. Then a dr

nit try these first. You’ll need a dr though

Have you considered there may be an underlying psychological issue. Sometimes children wet themselves due to anxiety. Is she having bad dreams? Has there been any changes of any kind? How does she seem generally during the day?

Learning delays... I wasn't diagnosed until 8, started occupational therapy at 8, also wet the bed at night until 8 (was fine during the day though).

The alarm worked for my daughter. I think it only took about 2 or 3 times too.