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To not go to parents wedding anniversary do

409 replies

Blueysworld123 · 24/03/2024 17:36

We live a 5 hours drive from my parents, they live in a very secluded area so the only option is to drive. We have a very young toddler who has never been left with a relative/babysitter/childminder so is very clingy to both of us. We just don’t have any help or support near us so sadly she is less exposed to new people or anyone looking after her and gets very unsettled easily. Due to circumstances we turn down wedding/social invites where we are unable to take our child or it is after their bedtime at 7pm. For context my parents have never offered to babysit, change a nappy or even help out when they see us. They have seen our child 5 times since they were born. This is largely because they are very busy with my sibling and their 3 children (first lot of grandchildren) who they moved next to when they retired, their numerous holidays and also helping my younger siblings. We absolutely love our child and spending time with them so we are happy with missing social events we would have ordinarily loved to attend and don’t feel like we are missing out. We are just at a new family stage of our lives, which is lovely given we are nearly 40 and didn’t thing we would have any children.

My parents have decided to throw a big party in the summer to celebrate their wedding anniversary. It is a nighttime do. They have made it clear that we are expected to attend. We have said that we would only be able to be there for the first hour max as it would be after our child’s bedtime and they would scream and cry because they are overtired any later. We have tried to keep them up later on special occasions but they are an absolute nightmare! Whilst not ideal timings, we are going to attend for the first hour as it would allow us to see relatives who haven’t yet met our child / we haven’t seen in a long time. Including my siblings as we are not very close (for example none of them have made any the effort to come and see my child since it was born). We really aren’t comfortable hiring a babysitter that we don’t know and feel it would be stressful for her to have a babysitter in a house she doesn’t know. She finds it hard to settle at bedtime when we anywhere other than her bedroom at home.

My parents are hiring a marquee to put in a neighbouring field to their house. They are not hiring portaloos and people will be using the toilets in the main house. They have invited 70 people. They are not very happy that we are only attending for an hour and are pushing for us to use the baby monitor and leave our child in the house on their own when they are asleep as the field is within their wider estate and therefore ‘house’ and as such we wouldn’t be leaving them alone. I am not comfortable with this approach and also think it would really be against the law to leave an infant this way? They now want me to make a speech (for context none of my other siblings ever need to make a speech at their numerous events, it is always me). If we don’t leave our child on their own they want my partner to stay in the house with our child (8pm onwards) and for me to attend the event. For context my partner cares for their disabled parent on top of working long hours and taking the bulk of the care for our child. I feel leaving them alone would be unfair. They have a huge celebration regarding life events fairly frequently and we have always attended the previous events. They have also asked that we set up the event space during the day so we would be helping them out then.

Am I being unreasonable to attend their event but only staying for the first hour?

OP posts:
Maternityleavelady · 27/03/2024 07:43

Since my kids were born, all family celebrations happen between 10am-4pm! My family get it about routines and bedtimes and know we can’t come to evening things for a long time!

2chocolateoranges · 27/03/2024 08:04

Maternityleavelady · 27/03/2024 07:43

Since my kids were born, all family celebrations happen between 10am-4pm! My family get it about routines and bedtimes and know we can’t come to evening things for a long time!

Wow!

we had great routines and strict bedtimes but every once in a while for a family celebration the routines went to the side and do you know what , my children had a blast at these family events and have turned into amazing well rounded adult's.

id never expect family events be arranged to suit my children’s routine.

Maternityleavelady · 27/03/2024 08:57

2chocolateoranges · 27/03/2024 08:04

Wow!

we had great routines and strict bedtimes but every once in a while for a family celebration the routines went to the side and do you know what , my children had a blast at these family events and have turned into amazing well rounded adult's.

id never expect family events be arranged to suit my children’s routine.

i didn’t demand or expect it but it makes no difference to my family whether a family gathering is in the daytime or evening - the important thing is spending time together! People can still drink if they want to. Why is it necessary to hold evening events?

CameltoeParkerBowles · 27/03/2024 10:25

PotatoPudding · 24/03/2024 17:47

I am with you, OP. I probably am a bit precious but I also won’t inconvenience myself or my family for people who don’t really do anything for me.

I don't think it's precious. The relationship with the parents sounds very one-way - why should the OP bother going at all? Let alone prepare and deliver a fawning speech for people who can't be arsed to put themselves out even slightly for her or her DD? Just say, "Sorry, I'm washing my hair that night... "
There may be repercussions with inheritance though...

Sonyaleg · 27/03/2024 11:54

Lollipop81 · 26/03/2024 21:18

There is no way I would leave my child alone in the way you have described. However, I think once the baby is settled your partner should look after her and you go back to the party. This is how you have to do things when you have kids, it’s life. If it was reversed then you would do the same for him I’m sure. It’s only one night.

Unless she doesn’t want to. Which is fine too.

Sonyaleg · 27/03/2024 11:56

Maternityleavelady · 27/03/2024 07:43

Since my kids were born, all family celebrations happen between 10am-4pm! My family get it about routines and bedtimes and know we can’t come to evening things for a long time!

That’s lovely. My in laws never did this with our first (first in our generation) then came SILs and suddenly gatherings were child friendly.

KomodoOhno · 27/03/2024 13:00

MrsSunshine2b · 26/03/2024 17:02

OP says "very young toddler" so we're talking 11-18 months, a baby. A baby does not need to be "acclimated" to being without their parents. When the parents are ready to leave the child under the conditions that make sense for them and the child, they'll do so.

That is your opinion and I have mine. Other people have said the same thing in this thread. I am not being critical of op. I did the same thing for the same reason. I loved being there with my child and didn't care what I missed out on. At 2 when my situation changed it was hell on me but far worse hell on my dd.

MrsLighthouse · 27/03/2024 16:11

mumonthehill · 24/03/2024 17:47

Take a pushchair and your dc can sleep in there or one of you takes her up to bed and stays with her. Routine is great but you cannot always miss out on important events because you are so intent on sticking to it.

This . My kids have attended many a party and fallen asleep in a reclining pushchair . Would it be so awful to do this ?

MsRosley · 27/03/2024 23:15

Playinwithfire · 26/03/2024 22:23

You know this how?! Your comment suggests you've had a lovely relationship with your parents and were not exposed to harm by them.

My comment was aimed at people who think it's fine to snub parents who don't actively help/engage with their grandchildren. So you can bend over backwards to parent your child for a couple of decades, but if you don't keep it up with their child, it's just fine to refuse to even attend their wedding anniversary. Obviously if there was childhood abuse, none of that applies, but that doesn't appear to be the case with OP.

And you could not be more wrong about my parents.

JenJuni · 28/03/2024 13:00

I’m really surprised the vote isn’t more clearcut, you are NOT being unreasonable.
They’re expecting you to do ten hours driving, leave a young toddler in a strange house with a strange person, help set up the event, and make a speech congratulating them, when your partner cares for a disabled person on top and your parents don’t give anything back in the relationship?
I’m sorry to say you have selfish parents.
I don’t have any brilliant advice except trying to be firm, and keep things to whatever you have the resources for.

Playinwithfire · 28/03/2024 15:57

MsRosley · 27/03/2024 23:15

My comment was aimed at people who think it's fine to snub parents who don't actively help/engage with their grandchildren. So you can bend over backwards to parent your child for a couple of decades, but if you don't keep it up with their child, it's just fine to refuse to even attend their wedding anniversary. Obviously if there was childhood abuse, none of that applies, but that doesn't appear to be the case with OP.

And you could not be more wrong about my parents.

Even so, you don't owe your parents anything- what makes you believe they've done a lot for her? There is no secret condition that you need to do as they please because they parented you for the first 18 years of your life.

Hence why I said "suggest"...

Lon24 · 28/03/2024 18:24

It's a family event and I'm sure that you can make an exception for one night and let your child to.join the celebration. There is no need whatsoever to be so precious.
And I really need to say this, why on earth do you refer to a toddler with the pronoum "them"? It's absolutely ridiculous. This alone is going to damage your kid way more than missing his/hers/them bedtime for a night!

MsRosley · 28/03/2024 18:32

Playinwithfire · 28/03/2024 15:57

Even so, you don't owe your parents anything- what makes you believe they've done a lot for her? There is no secret condition that you need to do as they please because they parented you for the first 18 years of your life.

Hence why I said "suggest"...

I absolutely disagree with you. Of course you owe any decent, non-abusive parent a debt of gratitude and respect. Parenting is incredibly hard, and anyone who made even a halfway decent job of it for 18 years deserves both those things.

Boomer55 · 28/03/2024 18:35

Soontobe60 · 24/03/2024 17:46

You are being incredibly unreasonable! They are your parents and your child’s grandparents. You are isolating your child with your choices of not going anywhere after DCs bedtime. They are going to grow up very nervous around other people.

Yes. All a huge drama over what should be a fairly simple thing. 🙄

Sonyaleg · 28/03/2024 22:49

MsRosley · 28/03/2024 18:32

I absolutely disagree with you. Of course you owe any decent, non-abusive parent a debt of gratitude and respect. Parenting is incredibly hard, and anyone who made even a halfway decent job of it for 18 years deserves both those things.

Why? I chose to have DC. So I look after them to the best of my ability. They will owe me nothing as none of that was their choice. It will be nice if they want to hang out with me and help me etc but there will be no expectation.

crew2022 · 29/03/2024 04:07

I think you have become the type of parent who is incredibly difficult to get on with. Let your three year old enjoy the party and be tired and cranky the next day. Otherwise they will have no social skills or family bond.

Sonyaleg · 29/03/2024 08:59

crew2022 · 29/03/2024 04:07

I think you have become the type of parent who is incredibly difficult to get on with. Let your three year old enjoy the party and be tired and cranky the next day. Otherwise they will have no social skills or family bond.

I think you have become the kind of poster that makes over generalised snap shot judgements of people in forums without thinking about the consequences of saying such mean things.

OnePlumFatball · 29/03/2024 10:29

Why sot you go and when the baby needs to be taken away your partner can go and mind the baby?

2chocolateoranges · 29/03/2024 10:34

Op always remember that may be you in many years time with a daughter who doesn’t want to come to your wedding anniversary celebration.

how would you feel then?

Codlingmoths · 29/03/2024 11:11

2chocolateoranges · 29/03/2024 10:34

Op always remember that may be you in many years time with a daughter who doesn’t want to come to your wedding anniversary celebration.

how would you feel then?

assuming she has done fuck all re helping her daughter with her children while actively and regularly helping her other children with their children, and instead chosen to regularly draw on her daughter for help prepping and speeches for parties while having zero sympathy for the parenting challenges, she should go, ah THIS is what people meant by karma! Wow I am just like my parents and I really fucked up with my daughter. What else would she bloody well think??

2chocolateoranges · 29/03/2024 11:45

Codlingmoths · 29/03/2024 11:11

assuming she has done fuck all re helping her daughter with her children while actively and regularly helping her other children with their children, and instead chosen to regularly draw on her daughter for help prepping and speeches for parties while having zero sympathy for the parenting challenges, she should go, ah THIS is what people meant by karma! Wow I am just like my parents and I really fucked up with my daughter. What else would she bloody well think??

Grandparents are not obliged to help their adult children out with their children. It’s great if they want to be involved but Grandparents can make their own choices.

my in-laws never babysat our children, or had them on their own, my mum helped us out to allow us to get a night out every once in a while,. I’m not going to punish the in-laws because they see our nieces and nephews more than our children. That’s not how life works.

unless OPs parents have been in an abuse or in a volatile relationship and this party is all for show then I don’t understand why any adult child wouldn’t make an effort for their parents.

I know as a parent I’d be gutted if neither of my children made an effort to celebrate these milestones just because I didn’t meet their expectations.

Sonyaleg · 29/03/2024 12:08

2chocolateoranges · 29/03/2024 11:45

Grandparents are not obliged to help their adult children out with their children. It’s great if they want to be involved but Grandparents can make their own choices.

my in-laws never babysat our children, or had them on their own, my mum helped us out to allow us to get a night out every once in a while,. I’m not going to punish the in-laws because they see our nieces and nephews more than our children. That’s not how life works.

unless OPs parents have been in an abuse or in a volatile relationship and this party is all for show then I don’t understand why any adult child wouldn’t make an effort for their parents.

I know as a parent I’d be gutted if neither of my children made an effort to celebrate these milestones just because I didn’t meet their expectations.

But would you insist that your DC who is parenting a young child, looking after their disabled, dying MIL, whilst holding down a job, drive 5 hours, help out with setting up the party, write and make a speech, all the while compromising on how she ants to parent? Would you not bother to visit her despite being able to?

Just as Grandparents don’t have a duty to help with GC, adult children don’t have a duty to abide by their parents wishes/demands.

zingally · 29/03/2024 12:20

I suspect there's a lot more to this than simple concern over one late night for a toddler.
Probably something about the parents lack of attention to their child and grandchild? Especially in comparison with the GC they live near to?

By all means, don't go - but also accept that it won't do the relationship any favours. Personally, I'd go, and accept that you might have a grumpy toddler on your hands. OR, you'll have one that's having the time of their life playing up late with their cousins. It's one night - it won't do any harm. And might even do you all some good to see that your toddler doesn't actually have to quite so pandered to any more.

Victoria3010 · 29/03/2024 14:26

They're not being very kind/thoughtful/helpful. My father in law similarly celebrated his 70th birthday with an evening meal at a childfree restaurant, my daughter was 6 weeks old and my son 2. We drove 4 hrs, hired an air bnb (we weren't welcome in his house due to the children), saw him in the daytime at a pub for lunch and then my husband went to the meal/party and I put the kids to bed in the air bnb. Was it shit? Yes. Is it dutiful to be there for parents when theyre older? Also yes.
I'd suggest looking for a nanny type babysitter, they're fully dbs checked, have pediatric first aid and vast experience and references - you could do bedtime routine and sit with them whikst they fall asleep. Or if you really don't want to leave them, your partner stays with your little one and you pop back with drinks, snacks and moral support every hour. You're being unreasonable not to go at all, but equally I can see why you'd make the point because you clearly feel they've let you down and don't appreciate your little one as much as they should. So if you want to make the point, make it, you just might lose the moral high ground because there are lots of options that enable you to go ....

Sunnydays60 · 29/03/2024 17:44

I'm learning some interesting things off this thread. Apparently people only look after their kids because they are banking the hours to be paid back later in life (presumably if these people could see into the future and their kids didn't jump when told to, they'd throw in the towel now) and the only socialisation that counts is socialisation after bedtime. I'm wondering what parenting book that came from.

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