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To not go to parents wedding anniversary do

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Blueysworld123 · 24/03/2024 17:36

We live a 5 hours drive from my parents, they live in a very secluded area so the only option is to drive. We have a very young toddler who has never been left with a relative/babysitter/childminder so is very clingy to both of us. We just don’t have any help or support near us so sadly she is less exposed to new people or anyone looking after her and gets very unsettled easily. Due to circumstances we turn down wedding/social invites where we are unable to take our child or it is after their bedtime at 7pm. For context my parents have never offered to babysit, change a nappy or even help out when they see us. They have seen our child 5 times since they were born. This is largely because they are very busy with my sibling and their 3 children (first lot of grandchildren) who they moved next to when they retired, their numerous holidays and also helping my younger siblings. We absolutely love our child and spending time with them so we are happy with missing social events we would have ordinarily loved to attend and don’t feel like we are missing out. We are just at a new family stage of our lives, which is lovely given we are nearly 40 and didn’t thing we would have any children.

My parents have decided to throw a big party in the summer to celebrate their wedding anniversary. It is a nighttime do. They have made it clear that we are expected to attend. We have said that we would only be able to be there for the first hour max as it would be after our child’s bedtime and they would scream and cry because they are overtired any later. We have tried to keep them up later on special occasions but they are an absolute nightmare! Whilst not ideal timings, we are going to attend for the first hour as it would allow us to see relatives who haven’t yet met our child / we haven’t seen in a long time. Including my siblings as we are not very close (for example none of them have made any the effort to come and see my child since it was born). We really aren’t comfortable hiring a babysitter that we don’t know and feel it would be stressful for her to have a babysitter in a house she doesn’t know. She finds it hard to settle at bedtime when we anywhere other than her bedroom at home.

My parents are hiring a marquee to put in a neighbouring field to their house. They are not hiring portaloos and people will be using the toilets in the main house. They have invited 70 people. They are not very happy that we are only attending for an hour and are pushing for us to use the baby monitor and leave our child in the house on their own when they are asleep as the field is within their wider estate and therefore ‘house’ and as such we wouldn’t be leaving them alone. I am not comfortable with this approach and also think it would really be against the law to leave an infant this way? They now want me to make a speech (for context none of my other siblings ever need to make a speech at their numerous events, it is always me). If we don’t leave our child on their own they want my partner to stay in the house with our child (8pm onwards) and for me to attend the event. For context my partner cares for their disabled parent on top of working long hours and taking the bulk of the care for our child. I feel leaving them alone would be unfair. They have a huge celebration regarding life events fairly frequently and we have always attended the previous events. They have also asked that we set up the event space during the day so we would be helping them out then.

Am I being unreasonable to attend their event but only staying for the first hour?

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Goinggreymammy · 25/03/2024 23:51

The voting was closed but I would have voted YABU from your OP. Then I réad the updates! This all sounds like a pain in the a**. Don't commit to going. Your priority now is your ill MIL. Say you will have to see how things are in the Summer. Definitely don't make a speech. Just say you may not be there so they should make other plans.

To all those projecting their own experiences and saying go, put child in buggy, she will love a party with her cousins, important to experience family events etc.... your family sound like they aren't all that bothered, or even all that nice. So they probably wouldn't be very interested in the OPs child and why go to such lengths fostering a one-way- effort connection with not very nice people!! Stop expecting everyone's family to be like your own. Not everyone's family is supportive. Not everyone's family is close. Not everyone has great childhood memories of family parties. Not everyone can afford to hire babysitters just yo go off out, not for work (OP said her partner does bulk of childcare and it sounds like they tag team a bit). Stop trying to guilt the OP into traveling hours and hours to a stressful event for people who wouldn't make any effort for her. Some said "your parents won't be around forever.... go and celebrate with them" type things. Well her MIL is terminally ill so surely spending time with her, and supporting her DH as he deals with all that should take precedence?

I feel angry and upset for you OP. Please don't go but dont make that speech, whatever else happens.

MsRosley · 26/03/2024 00:00

PotatoPudding · 24/03/2024 17:47

I am with you, OP. I probably am a bit precious but I also won’t inconvenience myself or my family for people who don’t really do anything for me.

They're OP's parents, for god's sake. They've already done a lot for her, for the first 18 years of her life.

justasking111 · 26/03/2024 00:02

MsRosley · 26/03/2024 00:00

They're OP's parents, for god's sake. They've already done a lot for her, for the first 18 years of her life.

Done a lot of damage possibly

user1492757084 · 26/03/2024 00:17

Op, do you feel like you need to seek some counselling?
Could you have a depression?

You seem overly fixated on keeping tabs on how often your adult parents, who live five hours away, have focused on your one year old. Your parents have done their parenting and realistically can not do much for you as they are five hours away.

Just say NO if you don't wish to go but don't pretend it is because they are bad parents or that your child won't cope.
Your child will cope; you are nearby and child has been invited.

Give your parents enough warning to ask another person to say a speech. Though I think you should see it as a compliment and write a small speech - even involve your sister in some way. (Perhaps your sister doesn't cope as well as you, Op, and you are self absorbed right now and don't recognise that.)

You seem unable to look on the bright side.
(Mention that to counsellor)
Leaving your ill MIL for two days to drive across beautiful countryside is something to look forward to and will give you and your DH a much needed lift.

Attend party and enjoy.
Your parents have invited 70 people so it could be raucous fun.

Scrumbleton · 26/03/2024 00:55

unreasonable and overly precious I'm afraid. There are ways and means around this / you should be able to attend - you have a child - it's not an incredibly unusual thing. You'll come across as unfeeling and silly if you don't go

StarryBook · 26/03/2024 02:06

The lack of interest and/or help from family is a theme song among many parents (me included!). I think you can just refuse to go and keep the reason simple (feeling unwell, can’t get a babysitter or whatever).

I feel along with many other opinions I’ve read, that you should go. I had similar worries with an event (during the day) with DD where it was a long drive and seeing relatives she didn’t know. We timed her naps and talked/planned in advance her feeding and nap schedule while out. We all had a great time and made great memories.

SillySausage55 · 26/03/2024 03:56

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/03/2024 23:23

How on earth do you know that she would "love it"?

I have 6 kids. 4 would (and did) absolutely love a big party, would make friends and dance. The other 2, definitely not. In the OP's scenario it would have ended up with me in a hotel room with those 2 as they simply couldnt cope with the situation and both are NT. They just dont like it. They dont like being on show or the centre of attention. DD3 (19) loves the performing arts but her ambition is to be a production director as the idea of the being "the star" is anathema to her.

Why should they be forced into a situation they dont like just so that Granny and Grandpa can pretend they have the perfect family?

@Blueysworld123 Sounds like you have been asked to make a speech and show the perfect family because you are the most biddable. The others are not so easy to control and will not present the image that they want to present.

As I said above, say no. No apologies, no reasons, no excuses. "We cant make it, hope you have a good time"....rinse and repeat. And, again another repeat, google FOG.

Yes but we’re talking about a toddler. Socialisation is important especially for toddlers and it’s a family do which is the perfect time to give it a go, put the routine on hold for a night and see how it goes, take a buggy incase she gets tired. Many solutions have been suggested and if OP has a problem with their family they should either sort it out or just not go

Imisssleep2 · 26/03/2024 06:38

I'm not sure how old you child is but flexibility from a strict routine occasionally isn't a bad thing. Could you not have them nap later so they could stay up a bit later, then you could take in turns to stay with the baby in the house? My son is/was also a nightmare if tired but at events like that, they get by on adrenaline. He went to my sister's wedding at about 21 months and he liked a 2 to 3hr afternoon nap religiously, but the wedding was at 1pm, I somehow managed to get him to have an hour and a half nap before we had to leave at 12.15pm to get there on time and then he kept on going till 9pm, and he didn't even fall asleep in the car on the way home he just went straight to sleep once home in his cot and he was as absolutely fine. Unfortunately for us no matter what time he goes to bed, he never makes up for it in the morning if it's late, so he was still up at 7am 🥱 but he just caught up on his nap the day after.

Sunnydays60 · 26/03/2024 07:45

I don't think people fixating on "straying from routine" really get what it's like to have a high maintenance child. I could never have a strict routine (and before I had a child, I was of the opinion that children would just crash when they were tired and sleep anywhere - that changed when I actually had some experience) but what I did know for sure was when my LO hit that wall, it could be a nightmare for everyone involved. It's not about being precious, it's about not wanting (anyone) to suffer. Also, people saying that if the child never has a baby sitter, they'll be a massive problem when they go to nursery are really far off the mark. Are you speaking from experience?!

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 26/03/2024 07:51

Op- I would come down with a contagious illness the day before the event.

PissedOff2020 · 26/03/2024 08:28

Gosh, how do you manage if you go on holiday? Do you stay inside from 7pm? Honestly, you need to break this rigid routine you have with you child, you’re setting them up to be an extremely clingy anxious child throughout their childhood.
You’re not the only parents to think a lot about their child, you’re not the first to have an overtired toddler. Let’s be realistic here, if you’re driving 5 hours your child will likely nap more than usual and not ready for bed at their normal time anyway.

Let your child nap in their pram. Or let them enjoy being fussed over by the family and cousins - they’ll enjoy it!!
As a mum of 4 boys children should be used to bending around your lifestyle every so often. We went abroad year and never spent evening indoors so the youngest could sleep - for context my boys as 21, 18, 12 & 8 do the youngest always had to just fit in. They will go back to routine.

Wonderfulstuff · 26/03/2024 10:41

JudgeJ · 25/03/2024 21:49

Travelling 5 hours with a toddler who struggles to settle anywhere other than home is a nightmare

Maybe it's a nightmare because the child had never been allowed to experience anywhere other than home, a child who will in a short time probably not settle in nursery and/or school. Parents who are so clingy with their child are doing them no favours for the future.

I was about to say the same thing. Children only learn how to socialise if they are given the chance to socialise. If we were talking about a newborn I'd totally get it but a toddler needs opportunities to socialise beyond their parent.

I have a child who LOVES routine and even at 6 is still in bed at 7pm most days as they need their sleep. But that said I can't imagine giving up having a life after 7pm just because I had a child. As a toddler DC would tag along to stuff with us all the time and thrive on being the centre of attention. When they were clearly getting too tired to party any longer we would pop them in their buggy, put the hood up and go for a walk to help them nod off... even if it doesn't happen immediately there's normally a line of people happy for a stroll and willing to take over. Maybe it helped that DC regularly napped in their buggy anyway as I'm not one of those people who insists on being at home for naptime. But either way life with a child doesn't have to be so hard. One night off does not ruin a routine, or child, forever more.

Changeusernameseeusernamehistory · 26/03/2024 12:15

Sunnydays60 · 26/03/2024 07:45

I don't think people fixating on "straying from routine" really get what it's like to have a high maintenance child. I could never have a strict routine (and before I had a child, I was of the opinion that children would just crash when they were tired and sleep anywhere - that changed when I actually had some experience) but what I did know for sure was when my LO hit that wall, it could be a nightmare for everyone involved. It's not about being precious, it's about not wanting (anyone) to suffer. Also, people saying that if the child never has a baby sitter, they'll be a massive problem when they go to nursery are really far off the mark. Are you speaking from experience?!

This

Sonyaleg · 26/03/2024 14:34

user1492757084 · 26/03/2024 00:17

Op, do you feel like you need to seek some counselling?
Could you have a depression?

You seem overly fixated on keeping tabs on how often your adult parents, who live five hours away, have focused on your one year old. Your parents have done their parenting and realistically can not do much for you as they are five hours away.

Just say NO if you don't wish to go but don't pretend it is because they are bad parents or that your child won't cope.
Your child will cope; you are nearby and child has been invited.

Give your parents enough warning to ask another person to say a speech. Though I think you should see it as a compliment and write a small speech - even involve your sister in some way. (Perhaps your sister doesn't cope as well as you, Op, and you are self absorbed right now and don't recognise that.)

You seem unable to look on the bright side.
(Mention that to counsellor)
Leaving your ill MIL for two days to drive across beautiful countryside is something to look forward to and will give you and your DH a much needed lift.

Attend party and enjoy.
Your parents have invited 70 people so it could be raucous fun.

I think you need to quit with the arm chair psychology. OP doesn’t want to make a massive effort for her parents who don’t make much effort for her. They are caring for her terminally ill and disabled MIL, working and looking after a young child. OP feels pressure to bow to their demands. I can’t imagine a world where my grown up DC are in the OPs position and I was pressuring them to attend something far away and pitch in. When do they pitch in for the OP. Nothing wrong with the OP she just doesn’t want to dance to their very demanding tune and not would I.

Sonyaleg · 26/03/2024 14:38

PissedOff2020 · 26/03/2024 08:28

Gosh, how do you manage if you go on holiday? Do you stay inside from 7pm? Honestly, you need to break this rigid routine you have with you child, you’re setting them up to be an extremely clingy anxious child throughout their childhood.
You’re not the only parents to think a lot about their child, you’re not the first to have an overtired toddler. Let’s be realistic here, if you’re driving 5 hours your child will likely nap more than usual and not ready for bed at their normal time anyway.

Let your child nap in their pram. Or let them enjoy being fussed over by the family and cousins - they’ll enjoy it!!
As a mum of 4 boys children should be used to bending around your lifestyle every so often. We went abroad year and never spent evening indoors so the youngest could sleep - for context my boys as 21, 18, 12 & 8 do the youngest always had to just fit in. They will go back to routine.

Holiday is different. You can please yourselves about what you do and when. Why would the OP want to do that long journey with a restless toddler and then cope with the fall out from lack of sleep.

My DC needed sleep and without it it was a nightmare. Lots of meltdowns. just hard work. Miserable. Why would the OP put them all through that out of duty.

She doesn’t want to go. It’s just a sense of duty. Which is basically a word for the powerful to push the less powerful into doing what they want them to.

Katiesaidthat · 26/03/2024 14:44

Don´t go OP. I used to put myself out with things like this. Then I wised up and don´t anymore. Life is simpler.

MrsSunshine2b · 26/03/2024 16:55

MsRosley · 26/03/2024 00:00

They're OP's parents, for god's sake. They've already done a lot for her, for the first 18 years of her life.

Caring for and parenting your child for their childhood is not some sort of favour. It's your responsibility as a person who decided to have a child. If you don't do it, you go to prison.

MrsSunshine2b · 26/03/2024 17:02

KomodoOhno · 24/03/2024 23:36

This. If you don't want to go don't go. But I would recommend you start aclimating your children. God forbid an emergency where they have to be taken care of by a sitter they will be a mess. It's unfair to them.

OP says "very young toddler" so we're talking 11-18 months, a baby. A baby does not need to be "acclimated" to being without their parents. When the parents are ready to leave the child under the conditions that make sense for them and the child, they'll do so.

Judecb · 26/03/2024 17:41

I think you need to start being firmer with your daughter for her own sake. She is dictating how two grown adults live their lives! Could you hire a nanny to stay in the main house with her after her bedtime? Celebrate with your parents with what I'm assuming is an important anniversary. If you don't, years from now, you will look back with regret.

BooBooDoodle · 26/03/2024 17:50

Routine for kids is important but so is getting them used to being out of routine and socialising them. I think it would do you all good to step out of your comfort zone and just go and deal with whatever happens. I’d take a buggy and put your child in that. You shouldn’t be controlled by your child’s routine, you need to loosen up a bit and start exposing them to the wider world or they’ll have no chance growing up and be laden with anxieties and other issues.

Angrywife · 26/03/2024 17:56

All those suggesting the baby stay up, or sleep there, obviously haven't a clue what it's like to have a baby the OP described!

Our eldest was the same OP. Gave himself a very strict bedtime very early on, and heaven help us if he couldn't go to bed at that time. Keeping him up even just an hour would result in over a week of sleepless nights, screaming for hours each night. No idea why it disrupted him so much but it did, and so obviously we did everything we could to avoid him becoming so distressed.

I'd simply apologise to your parents, tell them you can't stay any longer, and leave without guilt. Tantrums over "special days" should stop when you get past the age of 8. They're grown ups, they'll get over it.

DoughBallss · 26/03/2024 17:56

You really can’t live a slave to your child’s sleep schedule…just let them have a later nap and stay up later.

I have a 3 YO and 10 month old so understand how hard it is - and I know from experience the next day is never easy after they’ve had a late night but you need to have a life too every now and again.

MissingMoominMamma · 26/03/2024 17:57

SuitcaseBursting · 24/03/2024 17:56

Could you go up a few days early and get your child used to the people and the atmosphere? Go with a positive attitude and make a mini break out of it? For your sake too not just your parents. It might make you feel less isolated and break out of your slightly claustrophobic nuclear family life?

This is a great idea.

Angrywife · 26/03/2024 18:00

BooBooDoodle · 26/03/2024 17:50

Routine for kids is important but so is getting them used to being out of routine and socialising them. I think it would do you all good to step out of your comfort zone and just go and deal with whatever happens. I’d take a buggy and put your child in that. You shouldn’t be controlled by your child’s routine, you need to loosen up a bit and start exposing them to the wider world or they’ll have no chance growing up and be laden with anxieties and other issues.

Or they'll grow up knowing that their parents put their welfare above socialising and sulky grandparents!

My son (referenced above) is nearly 30 now with no anxiety, nor any other issues. He's a very happy fully functioning adult, who was allowed to sleep at the time he wanted to sleep because his parents prioritised his needs over their own. Go figure!

Islandgirl68 · 26/03/2024 18:16

YANBU, you have to do what is right for your child. It is not fair on them to keep them up late if that does not suit them. They could have had a day time party. Do what is right for u and your child. Don't be bullied into anything yiu are not comfortable with.