To be fed up with all the threads about high earners feeling poor

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It's always the same condescending "I've worked so hard and only have a 3 bedroom house in a great location and an expensive car", as if 1. that's not a lot 2. people who make 5 times less do not work as hard!

And the suprised pikachu face that having a degree did not magically get them a 500k job. That is not how capitalism works folks

There are also loads of people who are low paid because they didn’t put the effort in at school and made poor choices. It feels like high earners are allowed to be criticised for their perceived poor choices, but low earners are exempt from any sort of criticism over the choices they have made that may have lead to their circumstances.
As a ‘high earner’ I know better than to express any sort of dissatisfaction at our life/circumstances on here, there’s no point. I have a severely disabled child, but the general view is that if you’ve got spare money you can’t complain about anything.

I think it's that. We see what our parents had -mum not working outside the home (or part time stuff) and a nice house and annual holidays. And it's just not possible for most young couples.

But probably mumsnet is not the place for higher earners to discuss money management- probably MoneySavingExpert is more appropriate to discuss where cuts can be made or tricks to save tax.

Yes… when as a family we pay approx £80k a year in tax, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be annoyed to be excluded from help with the childcare which is needed to enable us to earn those salaries and therefore contribute that amount to the public purse.

Mumsnet is for everyone who posts within their talk guidelines. Just because people like OP seem incapable of accepting others, doesn’t mean people shouldn’t post. I think mumsnet should deal with posters that are arseholes to others over things like this. If someone posts genuinely for advice on finances, all the goady tiny violins etc should be deleted imo. Unless mumsnet makes a rule that higher earners are banned which they’re not going to do. Allowing people to be attacked for asking for advice isn’t what mumsnet is about.

I think childcare should be free for all personally would you be happy to pay more tax to make it happen? It would need funding somehow.

Well the destruction of the tories has finally hit the middle class and they are pissed.

100k salary use to buy luxury. Now it pays the bills and gives basic treats.

What the middle class need to understand is while they are moaning they can't go long haul or afford private school. The people earning 20-30k who previously would have been paying the bills with extra spare for treats are now choosing between eating and heating, are worrying they will lose their home.

@Beezknees £80k isn't enough?

Really you are just making the op's point for her

Often high earners are struggling with the cost of rent and particularly childcare. I’ve been a single mum with a six figure salary pre Covid. I was struggling to get by after nanny costs, transport to work and rent. And before anyone says I could have put them in a nursery - nurseries just aren’t open for the hours many high earners need. I had family who was better off on uc and had far more leisure time.

it’s easy to criticize people when you know nothing about their lives.

Of course it is, but I'm saying how do you propose to fund free childcare for all? We would all have to pay more tax.

We probably will be paying a far amount more tax over the next few years, as we’ve both still got a promotion in us. Pretty sure it won’t mean we get free childcare though.

I didn’t say I thought we should have free childcare for all, you did.

Exactly this - carers, factory workers etc work bloody hard long hours for next to fuck all and are often treated poorly to boot.

I’m sure lots do understand that. It’s still understandable for anyone to be pissed that their standard of living has decreased, do you expect them to say nothing?

I’m not a high earner but my partner is. We’ve never voted Tory in our lives.

Oh I see. Your post said you were unhappy about being excluded for childcare help though? So to make that possible for higher earners it would need funding.

@SeeYouInMyDreams oh I ageee. Threads started in say the money section should be treated respectfully and not allowed to be derailed by "you are so tone deaf"

There was a nice thread a while ago about what higher earning women did for a job and how they got there (and not how their husband did!)

Tons of scope for threads to be helpful about saving tax -and yes I advise people at work around the £100k mark to consider extra pensions payments to avoid it and particularly if have childcare to consider.

Agree, we pay similar and I am fully planning to salary sacrifice both our salaries down as needed when we have children. We’ve paid 100s of k since graduating, barely used the NHS - the least we should get is some childcare support when we have kids

I said to benefit from some of the childcare support that is currently available to others. You were the only person who mentioned free childcare for all.

The whole point I'm making though is if you wanted to benefit from it, more funding would be required to sustain that. There's a cut off for a reason.

a big portion of this thread should be hoping many of the high earning millennials and gen z don’t do what most of our group chats focus on - moving country.

majority of us for years have been happy to pay in for the greater good but with the highest tax. Burden + student loans most of us are looking for our escape route. Be prepared.

I don't have any childcare costs so no skin in the game. But for higher earners to benefit from childcare help who pays for it?

Heaven help us if there is no welfare system. Didn't you learn history at school about life before a welfare system?

You're in a group chat with every high earner in the country? Wow.

Christ. The judgement.

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