To think the PoW’s diagnosis makes healthy living seem pointless?

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I try my best to live heathily (although definitely not fanatical). I try and stay away from ultra processed foods, try and avoid saturated fat, too much meat etc., try and exercise every week. I’ll have the odd takeaway and definitely overindulge on wine, but always try and be mindful of living heathily because so much information is constantly battering me through the radio, media etc. about getting ill from various foods and not exercising.

I’ve recently lost my mother far too young too, so I suppose it’s particularly on my mind at the moment. But then you hear Kate’s diagnosis, who obviously exercises regularly, has the best instructors, best food, best ingredients, best preparation, and she still falls ill, and it all seems a bit pointless.

AIBU to feel this way? I just wonder whether I really should make an effort to watch what I eat and run when I don’t feel like it if really, what will be will be regardless.

Of course no one knows what she eats but I think it’s safe to assume she is not chowing down on kfc and necking cider of a night. I think multimillionaires would generally buy high quality food. Organic, free range, grass fed. If I had a decent budget and chef I wouldn’t be buying a lot of the stuff that currently inhabits my cupboard.

It’s not just her appearance. She’s regularly reported as being into sports and often photographed exercising. And she’s rich. She has her own chefs. She won’t be grabbing McDonalds after work.

Yes exactly.

She will have her own chefs - she will care about what her children eat. They won’t be living off takeaways and crispy findus pancakes. With that amount of money you can afford the fresh fruits and vegetables.

I think the general opinion is that she leads a healthy life. Therefore I don’t agree with people trying to insinuate that she is secretly smoking 50 a day and eating crap. And it’s not nice to imply that.

Agree
Plant based or very little meat
High consumption of fruit, veg, pulses, beans
and
Spices especially turmeric
are understood to be behind such low levels of cancer in India.

India is one of the largest consumers of fruit and veg consumption in the world.
We can learn a lot from other cultures.

Pickled and smoked foods are known to cause some forms of cancer including stomach related.
They are traditionally considered healthy foods.

It’s worth also noting many tumours start developing in our bodies at age 20 but we wont feel any symptoms or doctors may not be able to pick it up in tests for more than 20years.

So leading a healthy life now isn’t necessarily relevant to whether you get cancer or not

@Justpontificating smoked foods have long been known to be carcinogenic but how often do you eat them? All about what you eat most of the time. Fermented foods are not the same as pickled.

Are they?

What smoked or pickled foods would you consider healthy?

The point I was making is that people can eat ‘healthy foods’ but they are still linked to cancers.

I didn’t mention fermented foods.

But you mentioned that smoked and pickled foods have been considered healthy but can cause cancer.

I don't think such foods have been called healthy.

Smoked fish like salmon
Smoked meats
All pickled vegetables

I wouldn't say that smoked meats have ever been considered healthy.
Pickled vegetables - pros and cons

And yet some people do consider them as healthy

Who considers smoked meats healthy?

Clearly not just me
See above 🤣🤣

Do you consider smoked meats healthy?

Why?

Smoked salmon as an example has many many known health benefits widely publicised but should not be eaten regularly by anyone with cardiovascular issues and as with other smoked foods causes cancer.

Much like smoked meats which have a high iron content but are still bad for you in terms of heart health and cancer risk.

Pickled or smoked foods are not known as healthy. Salmon is healthy, smoked salmon less so. In my house it’s only eaten rarely so I do t worry about it. I eat picked gherkins but only one or two in a salad for example. I mentioned fermented foods as some confuse fermented foods such as sauerkraut and kimchi with pickled foods. There is no vinegar involved.Fermented foods are considered healthy for their gut bacteria improving properties .

I think all meats are a waste of a life as I don’t agree with eating any animals
What I think is irrelevant.

Im not alone in assuming it’s healthy along with pickled vegetables. It’s a Sunday afternoon and at least one other here thought they were also.

Even if just one person learns something new it’s worth posting

I think you should be doing as you like, honestly.

I happen to like stir fry but that's just me.

Health is multi-generational so if your parents and grandparents were unhealthy, statistically via epigentics your lifespan is already shortened and chances of heart disease etc impacted.

My family lived very unhealthy lifestyles so I'm screwed 🤣.

BBQ and smoking adds carcinogens to food. I still eat them but occasionally.

Much appreciated @Barquentine !

I am not sure that she thinks smoked meats are healthy. Even though she said she did. So that's strange
Salmon is not a meat.

You can get iron from smoked meat - you can get iron from meat which is not smoked,

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say smoked meat is healthy - or has health benefits.

I understand why you might feel like this all too well but I don't agree. I've recently been diagnosed with a serious condition despite 'doing everything right' in terms of health and fitness, exercise, diet etc, as my consultant put it. There will always be people who get serious illnesses despite a healthy lifestyle, and others, like one of my friends, who appear never to be ill, despite drinking gallons of wine on a daily basis and never doing a single bit of exercise, other than opening the taxi door! Nevertheless, I do believe there is a point to trying to live healthily - several points really. In my case, my condition would probably be a lot worse if I had unhealthy habits. Plus, the fact I am very fit means I am much better placed to try to manage my condition - it's incurable but for the time being, thanks to my general high level of fitness, I am living normally with it and hope this continues as long as possible. Fitness will be super-important in the years ahead as my condition is degenerative - exercise and diet could help mitigate the impact and keep me out of a wheelchair - I hope so. Despite my misfortune, in general people are less likely to get ill at a young or young-ish age if they live a healthy life. Third, living healthily is not just about avoiding illness or living longer, it's also about feeling good in the here and now with mental positivity. None of us have a guarantee of avoiding illnesses like cancer but if we have multiple other self-inflicted lifestyle ailments, it is so much harder to cope I hope the fact the Princess of Wales is young and healthy, apart from her cancer, will put her in excellent stead for a full and speedy recovery. I'm sorry about your Mum. xxx

My original post said
smoked foods….fish is food to some

My parents did not know ( my mum not until after she was diagnosed with cancer) that smoked foods cause cancer. Neither did my cousins when we spoke of her diagnosis or in fact most of my relatives in Ireland who eat a lot of smoked pig and were also shocked. They are farmers as well so you’d think they’d know better, or at least I did.

I didn’t say’ I ‘ think smoked meats are healthy but I do know that people are not as aware as we assume.

Like @Barquentine I don’t eat meat or fish so it’s not something I ever had any need to be concerned about until my mums diagnosis.