Do you vape?

[fantalimon23]

I know this will attract judgement but I'm not asking for criticism, just discussion.

Never been a smoker but recently took up vaping. Dh does it and so do a few friends. I was curious. We are going through a very stressful time in life - young dc and no help, demanding job, house renovation. I was winding down in the evenings using booze and junk food which wasn't good for me either so I suppose I just wanted to try something that helped relax me. I do enjoy it but I don't think I'm 'addicted' per se, for example I don't take it out with me during the day and don't miss it. I just use it in the evenings.

Anyway bizarrely I have health anxiety which is quite ridiculous when I think of all of the unhealthy habits and coping mechanisms I have. But I do worry about the vape. There is so much conflicting info out there - loads of sources saying it's much better than smoking others saying it's as bad or worse. All the alleged health issues they can cause but no definitive studies as they've not been around long enough.

So I guess I'm wondering if you vape, why? What does it bring you? And do you worry about the health impact?

... and lithium ion batteries, in the hands of children. These are unstable and dangerous when wet or damaged.

Children can't buy a packet of cigarettes online, nobody can, but anybody can access and purchase vapes online and from dodgy outlets selling counterfeits; those places will happily sell them to children.

I do. I thought it would help me with my 20 a day smoking habit. And it did, but only by replacing it with another habit, it's just a different thing to need to quit now.

I was an "invincible" (stupid) 15 year old who definitely wouldn't get addicted when I first smoked. I don't understand why anyone would start either as an adult.

Yes that's an issue
As is under age drinking etc, the same as smoking was when I was young. I started smoking at 12
But there needs to be a way that adults can vape, the same as adults can choose to drink or smoke without being penalised because unscrupulous shops are selling to children

No, I wouldn't want my child vaping. I also wouldn't want them driving a car, going to nightclubs, or drinking alcohol. But I don't feel like a hypocrite for doing those things because I'm an adult.

Do you seriously never do one single thing that's bad for your health? You live the perfect life of pure asceticism?

vaping is such an unknown and we have heard all sorts of stories of potential problems that I’m not convinced it’s a reasonable alternative to something else or as a stand-alone habit that you have picked up.
However
Its worth mentioning that it can’t be singled out as a baddy unless we also acknowledge the many bad health habits people have
such as
Drinking Alcohol
Eating meat
Eating processed meats and fatty foods et al
The above all cause cancers, heart disease and all manor of illnesses.

Vaping is just another bad habit amongst many and whilst it may be considered it affects others too, re the smell etc. burning flesh in a restaurant or bar is no less offensive and probably more to some.

Better to take up a healthy habit like a sport or walking. Keep away from all the nasties or cut down, at least, on all bad habits.

The other thing about vaping is it looks bloody ridiculous. I always feel embarrassed for people doing it.

I don't vape for the sake of pleasing you.

Shit…you’re right. 🫤 I’m going to stop immediately.

Judgemental nonsense. Wales is a bloody nanny state as it is. Look into popcorn lung to understand what you have spouted. Want to ban cheese? Chocolate, alcohol, kebabs, the list is endless. People don’t realise the NHS is still supported by smokers.

Nicely put. People don’t also realise that raising stress levels in the body causes your immune system to lower, I was actually told to put off stoping smoking by my rheumatologist during my mothers illness as he thought it would be counter productive. I now vape.
People adding ‘what example does it set for your children’ it’s not illegal at 18, so don’t allow them until then. I have a greater issue with children being indoctrinated by their parents into religion. Physical addiction is far easier to overcome than mental ones.

I smoked £300 a month, 10 years ago, vaping now costs me £25 a month, buy in bulk and use discount offers. I enjoy it actually.

This! People with them on a cord round their neck look like they have dummies?

So glad that so many people on here think it's minging. It fucking stinks and it is so antisocial.

dare i say it…. I also find it weird that an adult, a parent no less, would go from never having smoked to picking up a vape and taking the conscious decision to just start.

Yes, weird. 🤷

your older two are starting seniors soon… so 11?

* I just use it in the evenings. In the evenings when the kids are in bed I will have it in the living room while watching tv*

So they are holed up in their rooms all night, guaranteed every night?

They will smell it.

Odd you think that you could get away with vaping only in the evenings with 11/12 year olds.

No need to put vapourised propylene glycol in my lungs from a weird electric steam dummy.

I relax through exercise: go running, hot shower, feel amazing AF for hours afterwards.

There’s a documentary on bbc about vaping at the minute. Research is on going of course but it’s not just water and a couple of other bits you are breathing in and I can’t see how that is anything than bad for you. I also feel people vape more often so more as it’s very handily always there and easy to access not like having to go outside to smoke.

While it was great initially for smokers to wean off nicotine some vapes have just as much cigs. Watching kids and young adults potentially feck up their lungs is so worrying not really understanding there could be a long term risk.

I come from a family of smokers whose health has been destroyed by smoking with awful Lung diseases.

Hate vaping. It does look ridiculous and very low class, which people on here will no doubt jump on but it does. Like adults or teenagers sucking a dummy. I don’t know anyone in my group of family / friends that does it. And I have a huge
friend group spanning several countries. I have moved around a lot. Medical evidence is starting to show that it’s not benign and is a health risk and increases cancer risks. Better than smoking. But better to do neither. Smoking doesn’t look as ridiculous but I don’t know any smokers now either. Everyone gave up.

It does look ridiculous and very low class, which people on here will no doubt jump on but it does.

The thing is about people like yourself saying it looks ‘low class’ is that it’s loaded with the idea that you believe yourself to be a ‘better class’ of person simply for not having this particular habit. Describing anyone as ‘low class’ in this day and age is really low class in itself, what in particular makes a person ‘low class’ in your eyes beyond making a personal decision to vape?

Yes because obviously people who vape don't also do that
I have a nicotine addiction, it's not my means of relaxing, I use cleaning and exercise to relax

@TheNewDeer they are not 'holed up' in their rooms, they go to bed between 8-9 like normal children lol. I dont lock them away against their wishes so I can vape. Jesus the lengths some people will go to here.

They don't smell it and they don't know about it, I'm not confident of much since the research is still so minimal but I am confident about that.

For the pp who said it's 'low class' 😂😂 not a concern for me as I don't do it outside of the house so other peoples options on how it looks are not an issue. However if I did, other peoples opinions would be very low down on the list of concerns. Never bothered myself too much with what others think.

I do wish I was more like the poster who gets the same sort of buzz from running. Sadly exercise has never achieved that kind of high for me.

No, I don't vape - only proper cigarettes are worthwhile to me. Aside from that, I would rather the devil I know with smoking related illnesses, than the unknown of vaping - vaping has only been a thing for the last 20 years, if that - it isn't long enough to assess the health effects.

This is a viewpoint I struggle to understand. I worry that the demonisation of vaping is to blame here.

I know someone who smoked all through a pregnancy because she thought better the devil she knows. But one devil absolutely contains carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, tar, and other toxic chemicals.

I'm not comparing you to someone who smokes during pregnancy and I'm not judging you. It just really worries me that people would rather smoke cigarettes. There would have to be a very serious revelation about vaping for me to conclude that it was worse than smoking. There's some pretty stiff competition for it to win that race.

I think the demonisation of smoking plays more of a part. It isn't that vaping is worse for you than smoking, it's that it's an unknown quantity - as smoking once was. My grandmother, in the 1940s, was advised to take up smoking by her doctor as an antidote to war nerves.

Smoking is far from the only thing that is bad for your health or risky that some people do on a daily basis, but it's been hugely singled out over the last 20 years.

Dementia/alzheimers is the leading cause of death in the UK at the moment. As someone watching my (non-smoking) father go through this, I'd rather die of a smoking-related illness before that stage.

I've never been pregnant (my choice) so thankfully never had to consider that issue.

Never bothered myself too much with what others think.

Then why have you posted? I don't care whether people vape or not, no skin off my nose. It's your body, your health.

I do care that this product is being so heavily marketed to children though. That is everybody's business and since the government has shown scant regard in allowing this product to enter the UK without any sort of restriction, it's worth mentioning and lobbying for protection for children. If adults are sad about that, it's just too bad. Children can't consent.

The posters bleating on about banning cheese and so on are just deflecting. I hear fear whenever I see 'othering'. Cheese doesn't have lithium battery attached, isn't addictive (however delicious), doesn't have the myriad other dis-benefits either. I don't care what nonsense you post.

so you get your vape out at 9pm
and they never come out of their rooms for any reason once gone to bed
and definitely never smell it
and what happens when they start to go to bed later? they’re 11/12? secondary school in september, that 8/9pm bedtime will be later

op be realistic. give up now before you are addicted or dave the reality that pretty soon at least two of your children are going to discover both their parents vape