Deliveroo driver bit off a man's thumb

[Lovelyemma]

I searched and I couldn't see a thread about this.

Aibu to think that there must have been a bit more to this story? I am in no way condoning violence. It was on GMB this morning.

The victim said that his pizza didn't arrive, he saw a pin dropped up the street on the deliveroo app and went out to find the driver. When he found her she refused to hand over the food without the code. At which found he says that she attacked him.

When promoted he did say that he'd pushed the woman and his hand had gone inside her helmet at which point she bit his thumb off.

He has since split up from his partner.

Again, in no way am I condoning violence certainly not on this level, but think there is a bit more to this than a completely unprovoked attack.

If it was a man that did it to a woman would you insist there must be more to the story?

Again, in no way am I condoning violence certainly not on this level, but think there is a bit more to this than a completely unprovoked attack.

based on what, exactly?

Yes I thought this too. Apparently she had her helmet on. I can imagine this may have been in defence but who knows.

Why do you think there's more to it?

Because in the interview he said that it was a completely unprovoked attack.

When prompted he said that he pushed the driver, and his hand ended up inside her helmet at which point she bit him.

oh i saw it too , but couldn't fully understand what happened and why is that driver not in prison after such brutal attack

Because he admitted in his interview that he pushed her and his hand went inside her helmet.

I thought the same OP and looked for any detail on line - I couldn't understand how his thumb had got inside her helmet without him touching her head in some way and as he admitted being very angry assumed he had tried to hit her. I guess because she was the one who hurt him she ended up being prosecuted but I'd imagine it was self defence at the time. I'd have thought the same if it were two men fighting, before the whole "women commit crimes too you know!" brigade descend on me.

Didn’t she plead guilty? So there isn’t actually more to it, she admitted the charge and accepted the case put forward against her.

I can't get past the fact she bit his thumb off! That is quite some bite she has.

It says on the deliveroo app you give the code after you've been handed the food. I guess she didn't know it was him as she wasn't outside his house. Why not just show his phone to her to prove it's his? How did his finger go inside her helmet? You wouldn't put your hands anywhere near someone's mouth surely.
I'd say to have bitten the finger clean off is a bit implausible, though human jaws are strong. You'd think they bit his finger and he withdrew it rather than they literally ate it? I wonder if he actually got his pizza (extra topping lol) in the end or just a credit.
All sounds bizarre. Did the driver get charged with gbh or whatever?

oh was he violent? so he attacked her and she bit finger off ?

Gross!

What if he was HIV+!

You can't just go biting other people's thumbs off!

I watched him on GMB this morning and I have to say something did seem off to be honest, I don't know what but I did get a feeling there was more to it than what he was saying. .Just a feeling though and I could be totally wrong. He said as a result of whats happened him and his partner split up and hes now lost his home and can't work, not sure why that would cause them to split up, they must have been having problems before this. It all seemed very 'please everyone feel sorry for me and pay me attention' kind of thing. He didn't seem totally truthful when he was asked how his hand got in her mouth, he said she asked him for the code, he responded saying he didn't have the code and said if you give me the food then I will go and get the code and then she just attacked him and so he pushed her away and his hand ended up inside her helmet and that's why she bit it. hmmm not sure that I believe that. She admitted to biting his thumb but I would say there was something that happened before that to warrant her biting him. I've seen he seems to be doing the rounds on other news shows and doing interviews saying his debts are now mounting up. From what I saw this morning they have used part of his toe to rebuild his thumb, I don't think his whole thumb was taken off just part of it. To be honest it looked like a normal thumb to me and he was bending it I noticed with no problems. Call me cynical but he seems a bit of a chancer to me.

Not going to link to the article but I don't think he attacked her.

She did plead guilty. I suppose ultimately to bite someone's thumb off you'd have to be using extreme force.

Was it entirely unprovoked or an element of self defence.

When I say I wonder if there was more to it I mean that the headlines make it seem as though she bit him completely unprovoked.

Hangry.

He said he briefly raised his hand near her helmet and he forgot the phone at home so couldn't show code .

And she pleaded guilty

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68558464.amp

Yes, he pushed her away when she tried to attack him.

People always want to believe there is ‘more to the story’ when something like this happens because you don’t want believe that people can actually behave like this for no good reason. But I’m afraid they absolutely do. I’ve witnessed some absolutely gobsmacking incidents of unprovoked or vastly disproportionate violence in my time and have also been a victim of it. I also used to work in the criminal justice system and it’s not at all uncommon for serious acts of violence to happen in ridiculously low-level disputes. For example, I once sat in on the trial of a woman who had glassed a total stranger in the back of the head because he told her to leave him and his sister alone. She had taken a shine to the sister and kept trying to squeeze herself between the sister and the brother as they sat at the bar. Eventually the man said “Will you just fuck off”, she walked away and then ten minutes later she smashed a glass into the back of his head. She wasn’t even drunk. Just dangerous.

This is exactly how I felt. Think you'd have have to have watched the interview.

Even if she pleaded guilty, mitigating factors (e.g. if he had been trying to hit her) would be taken into account at sentencing.

It's entirely possible for her to be guilty, but there to also be more to the story which would explain a light sentence.

I'd bite anything that came within distance if I was being assaulted - but we don't know the whole story do we

@KreedKafer oh yes I can well believe that. I've witnessed it and been on the receiving end.
I know what you mean about not wanting to believe it though.

Something just seemed, not quite as it was being told.

I saw it on the news yesterday and it was very sympathetic towards the victim, as it sounds horrific and there was a lot of blood.

BBC article says his thumb was severed and he had to have part of his big toe grafted onto the stump:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68558464

Actually I think @Lovelyemma is right to wonder if there was more to this than an unprovoked attack. Once you get past the horror of a woman severing a man's thumb with her teeth, think about the circumstances in which one person's mouth and another person's hand would be in close enough proximity to be able to bite the hand. He if had his hands down by his sides she would have had to bend down to bite his thumb. Or pick up his hand and put it to her mouth. Does that sound likely?

I could understand biting an ear, if two people of similar height are tussling and one person latches onto the nearest protruding body part. But biting someone's hand? It needs to be close to the other person's mouth in the first place. Which sounds like it was, because he put his hand up to her helmet.

That's not to say that biting hard enough to severe a finger is justified. But a lesser bite in self defence could be. It will be interesting to see how the sentencing (due in May) reflects the judge's opinion of the severity of the wound.