Deliveroo driver bit off a man's thumb

[Lovelyemma]

I searched and I couldn't see a thread about this.

Aibu to think that there must have been a bit more to this story? I am in no way condoning violence. It was on GMB this morning.

The victim said that his pizza didn't arrive, he saw a pin dropped up the street on the deliveroo app and went out to find the driver. When he found her she refused to hand over the food without the code. At which found he says that she attacked him.

When promoted he did say that he'd pushed the woman and his hand had gone inside her helmet at which point she bit his thumb off.

He has since split up from his partner.

Again, in no way am I condoning violence certainly not on this level, but think there is a bit more to this than a completely unprovoked attack.

Yes it's really odd isn't it. I know people can attack other people without needing an excuse but this just seems very strange to me under the circumstances and him admitting his hand was inside her helmet, she may have been scared and just did the first thing that came to her mind to protect herself. Or maybe she has total anger problems who knows?. I just read in an article he was bed and couch bound for months after part of his toe was used to recreate the top half of his thumb. I mean, yeah its awful what happened but he seems to be really milking this tbh.

This woman must have had a big manly jaw if she could generate enough bite force to sever a man's thumb.
What's the perpetrator an actual woman or one of those women with a penis, testicles and a large powerful jaw ?

This thread is disgusting victim blaming.

I read it was reported that the customer had seen the delivery driver wrongly go to a nearby house instead of his so he’d run down the road to get it. I can imagine if you’re rushing to put your shoes on, you put your phone down while doing so and he forgot to pick it up in the rush so that’s why he didn’t have it for the code.

He said he’d told the driver he’d left his phone so didn’t have it and then said she’d started to swing for him. He pushed her away and she then bit his thumb off. He said she was shorter than him which is why his hand went inside her visor (assume it was open) when he pushed her away.

There was no mitigating claim from the driver that he had assaulted or threatened her and she was defending herself. She sounds extremely aggressive and a bit of a psycho to have bitten a piece of someone clean off! She shouldn’t have been walking the streets afterwards as a clear risk to others, god knows why she was let out on bail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13222473/amp/man-thumb-bitten-deliveroo-driver-pizza-row-injury-ruin-life.html

There’s also nothing to say that his partner left him because he was abusive himself, it states in the article that they split due to pressure of dealing with the aftermath, financial from the sound of it as he couldn’t work. A plumber can’t work without a thumb!

Obviously it’s the DM but it seems to have a clearer description of the incident than other reports. I don’t think he’s milking the incident at all. Why shouldn’t he tell his story now the case has gone to court? He’s lost a lot due to what she did and people should be aware of incidents like this.

This thread is awful and I bet if a man did this to a woman, most of the posts on here wouldn’t stand.

Rambling around the internet is spot on. The victim blaming here is awful.

It also says in that article that the customer realised she couldn’t find his address (from the tracker probably) so messaged her telling her where to go but she refused and insisted he go to her. That’s why he ran out of the house to go to her as probably worried what he wouldn’t get what he had paid for.

So it sounds like she was already being behaving badly before her even got to her. It wasn’t his fault she couldn’t do her job! A delivery driver should be able to deliver to the correct address.

Just thinking about this further, can you even imagine how traumatising it must be to see a piece of your body being bitten off right in front of your face off by another human??!! Seeing it in her mouth (it must have been in her mouth as she bit it off), spit it out on the ground, or did she swallow it as they had to use his toe for reconstructive surgery?

The blood spurting like a bloody fountain. Must have been like a horror film replaying in his head.

The guy was probably traumatised for ages and then having to go through the stress of waiting for a court case as well as financial problems due to losing his livelihood. That would have been hard on any relationship.

Some of the posters on here should be ashamed of themselves.

YABVU.

She pleaded guilty and nothing was offered in mitigation for her actions which presumably she would if he'd attacked her first.

In any case, biting a thumb in self defence might be reasonable, but biting it clean OFF?!

I cam imagine she felt very, very unsafe as a woman.
She shouldn't have bit off his thumb, but he put his hand inside her helmet and pushed her. Not on.
I ultimately side with her I think.

He put his hand out to keep her away from him. His finger happened to go into her helmet and she bit the finger off.

but you think she was the one in the right?

Uuuurgh, the whataboutery and victim blaming!

My brother was bottled in the head by a psycho bitch in a bar. I was there, none of us had any prior contact with the woman. It was noisy, she was shouting something to my brother to attract his attention, but as we didn't know her, we didn't pay any mind to her, not thinking she was addressing my brother.

She was frustrated with being ignored apparently, so just came over and smashed a bottle over his head.

The whole thing ended up on facebook and there was bunch of (mostly) women engaged in all this yada yada, 'there must be more to this', 'he clearly knew her and did something to her prior', etc. Later on the bitch herself admitted that she was off her head, never seen my brother before, and was simply annoyed about something.

Rabid assholes exist. Yes, it's much more often men than women, but not always.

A visor can be lifted on a moped/motorcycle helmet so she could've bitten him this way.

Do people not realise also that the Deliveroo driver had rented out his moped to this woman (apparently quite a common thing to do), but this then means it gets harder to get Deliveroo involved with this case?

That's the article I saw too but didn't want to link as is DM and I know MN hates DM.

I believe the man, the woman sounds like (and looks like) a complete psycho, I highly doubt he attached her and his injury which she hasn't denied is totally beyond the scope of what you'd normally do in self defence? Or am I being naive here? I see Deliveroo/Uber Eats drivers round here all the time, driving fast, all with L plates on and the odd one has a confrontation (happened a few weeks ago) on a cul de sac around the corner from a high street where a lot of the restaurants are, that was actually quite scary as it's a cut through for local residents and two or three men were squaring up to each other. They usually just wait there for their next jobs. I know a friend of mine who lives in a house there and she says it's not nice that they hang around there as they make her feel uncomfortable as a younger mum.

I still can't fathom how it's possible to bite off part of an adult man's thumb! Then apparently she just spat it into his partners hand?! Ugh. I wonder why they couldn't reattach it though?

I can understand why he felt imprisoned in his house-the foot takes a hella long time to heal so he had to stay inside with his leg elevated to give himself the best chance of his foot healing from the amputation I guess. And maybe from the stress of all that he split up with his partner, it happens. Just a very odd story though!

What if SHE was HIV positive

Also the above "What if SHE was HIV positive"

Regarding risk if there was thought to be any they could go on PEP to reduce the chance of contracting HIV.

If one of them was HIV+ they would have to have a high viral load and not be on medication. Also there would need to be a reasonable amount of blood to blood transmission eg the person doing the biting would have to be actively bleeding as well as the person bitten. Otherwise this would be unlikely - the virus does not do well when mixed with saliva as enzymes in it damages the receptor rendering it unable to infect.

From his own account it sounds like he attacked a woman and she bit him in slef defence. His hand was inside her helmet, clearly not for any good reason.

Edit, read a different posters info on it. People are crazy, sounds just like two people scrapping over pizza. She can't give him the pizza without the code, she's probably been driven crazy by people treating her like shit trying to scrape a living together every day and snapped.

This is what happens when people are barely managing to survive, the world goes crazy.

His own account, where he said that she started punching and kicking him so he tried to push her away and she bit him?

No it sounds like she attacked him and he put his arm out to defend himself.

even the woman involved didn’t try to say he did anything wrong yet some women on here are still so sure that it must always be the man to blame they will blame him anyway!

Possibly not as the rates if violence by men against women are massive compared to the other way round. So you're not in anyway comparing like with like.

I saw the BBC interview and she looked like a scary woman well able to look after herself



Tbf pleading guilty doesn't mean a great deal. It's worked out as a probability and whether you are likely to be found guilty then you'd lose the discount.
Even those poor post masters pleaded guilty knowing they weren't in order to be spared prison and the advice they were given.