Deliveroo driver bit off a man's thumb

[Lovelyemma]

I searched and I couldn't see a thread about this.

Aibu to think that there must have been a bit more to this story? I am in no way condoning violence. It was on GMB this morning.

The victim said that his pizza didn't arrive, he saw a pin dropped up the street on the deliveroo app and went out to find the driver. When he found her she refused to hand over the food without the code. At which found he says that she attacked him.

When promoted he did say that he'd pushed the woman and his hand had gone inside her helmet at which point she bit his thumb off.

He has since split up from his partner.

Again, in no way am I condoning violence certainly not on this level, but think there is a bit more to this than a completely unprovoked attack.

Meh, he fucked around and found out!

Zero sympathy for someone who got so aggressive over a fucking pizza that he put his hand anywhere near a woman's face,

@SaveMyArchitrave I'm glad you've said that because I was a bit reluctant to.

Of course it doesn't mean there aren't women who can be violent for no reason, or that a man deserves to lose his thumb. Just that it is more unusual for a woman.

Also as I previously said, I cannot imagine my dh getting into an altercation with a delivery driver over a pizza.

She attacked him and he raised his hand to her helmet in an attempt to push her off him.

All these man hating loons saying he put a hand to a woman's face should be ashamed of themselves.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68558464.amp

'Jenniffer Rocha, 35, attacked the customer in December 2022 near his home in Aldershot in Hampshire.' - She attacked him. He was trying to defend himself.

It's a horrible situation for both parties, which should have been avoided. I blame the company.

Deliveroo need to protect their brand more and with it, their drivers. Subbing allows untrained, unregulated people to deliver 'Deliveroo's product' who then panic and react with extreme violence to provocation. Their drivers should be trained for these situations and which WILL arise when dealing with the public. Back up support should be a panic button away too.

While they're at it, they might insist on a basic level of cleanliness for their delivery bags too. The ones I see in takeaways are grime and bacteria City. I'd rather trek out and pick a takeaway up myself after seeing them.

Was waiting for someone to say man haters.

The article in the Mirror says she was facing trial for grievous bodily harm with intent but she admitted grievous bodily harm without intent, which was accepted.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/deliveroo-driver-admits-biting-customers-32394366

Explanation of the two, and whether the use of force in self defence is "reasonable":
https://www.jdspicer.co.uk/site/blog/crime-fraud/what-is-gbh-with-and-without-intent

Another article said the delivery order was worth £57, so not 'just' a pizza.

Am I dreaming that I read he was trying to get her helmet off, or did I just make that up? But it would make a lot of sense.
My ds said apparently biting off a finger is comparable to biting through a carrot, it’s just our reflexes that normally make it not possible…

He just had to go back home and get his phone for the code, it’s all very odd to say the least.

His hand went inside her helmet?

I’d want to know how/why that happened before I had any sort of opinion

Could be anything from he was genuinely just trying to push her off and his hand ended up there by accident, to he was trying to attack her face/throat and she bit in self defence

Don’t think we know enough

Why would a man have his hands so near to a woman's face, in a dispute, as a stranger to her?

Also, wow, it is very hard to bite a thumb right off.
I know this from personal experience, as when I was being hit and strangled, I bit down as hard as I could on my attacker's thumb and only succeeded in fracturing it.

Yes we don't know enough. I'm certainly not saying age is completely innocent and he deserved it. Because I don't know.

I just felt that the interview was 'off' he was definitely trying to gloss over the details in order to be the victim.

She not age.

Am I dreaming that I read he was trying to get her helmet off, or did I just make that up? But it would make a lot of sense.
My ds said apparently biting off a finger is comparable to biting through a carrot, it’s just our reflexes that normally make it not possible…

The exact events don't seem clearly reported. Either a reporter wasn't present in court or perhaps the case wasn't fully outlined in court because the defendant accepted the lesser charge at the beginning of the trial. Presumably fuller details are given to the judge to decide on sentencing?

I'm now spending more time than I ever imagined on thinking about the mechanics of biting off part of a finger. Urgh. I suppose if your teeth happen to clamp onto the joint between the bones then it's possible to severe the ligaments in between the bones. But if you clamp onto a bone, you couldn't bite through an actual bone?

I might never be able to bite on a raw carrot again.

The only thing I can say is that this woman must have some hellishly sharp teeth.
Future boyfriends, take note 😂

You don't push someone away by their mouth.

A lone woman is very unlikely to attack a man over a delivery code 🙄

Women don't leave nice,innocent, family men because they have been attacked.

Same old, same old.

The comments on the GMB story on Facebook are interesting.

Most people are saying there's more to it. People are pointing out them at the driver has probably been robbed before. He approached her in the street away from the address demanding the food without any proof.

Lots of people questioning how his hand got inside her helmet.

He also said in the interview that he'd been imprisoned in his home for 6 months as a result of the attack.

I'm a bit surprised that she pleaded guilty. I hope she had proper legal advice.

Was he trying to gouge her face in some way? Force his hand down her throat to suffocate her, something along those lines and so her immediate defense was to bite down?

Yes. And that's why you shouldn't leave young dc near rabbits. They have been known to bite off fingers.

Perhaps she had those metal teeth like the villain in James Bond.

I take it as being she attacked him, so he was retaliating/defending himself by shoving her away and she got hold of his thumb.

Don't think it seems very complicated?

I think the most likely scenario is that in the altercation he grabbed her visor to pull it off.

I thought exactly the same. It did not really add up. It was not a clear account, seemed a bit fudged. And if he was the victim of a violent unprovoked attack how come his partner split from him as a result- he said it was as a result of this attack where apparently he was the victim.

Yes definitely. I think if I had just read the story I would have been on his side but after watching him on GMB and on other news outlets , there is something not quite right with him. He said he couldn't pick his child's crayons up off the floor with that hand, as soon as he said that I thought bullshit. The camera was zoomed in on his hand and he was bending the thumb no problem. I think she wouldn't give him the food without the code and he kicked off and it got heated and his hand ended up in her helmet in her face and she bit it. I could be totally wrong but a lot of people seem to be thinking the same thing in comment sections about this story.

Never knew that! Oof.