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Why don't people just stop drinking?

139 replies

PassingStranger · 20/03/2024 19:44

Just read two crimes that were caused by alcohol.
One a speeding drunk driver, took a car and smashed Into another car on the road killing people.

Did they really think they were going to be able to negotiate the roads properly while drunk and speeding?

Another one a vile bully of a man attacked and killed his wife while he'd been drinking and she died.😱
Now two children have been left without their mum and dads in prison.
I'm sure we can all think of other crimes where drink was involved.

When are people going to stop?
Why do they need to drink all the time (sake).🙄

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 22/03/2024 22:20

WalkingonWheels · 21/03/2024 11:17

I agree, OP.

Drinking alcohol is not a disease. It is a CHOICE. No one holds someone down and pours alcohol down their throats. Cancer is a disease. ALN is a disease. Drinking alcohol is not, and it's disgusting to compare it with actual diseases.

I find people who drink alcohol a bit thick, really. None of the people I associate with are drinkers, and we aren't boring, loud, aggressive, embarrassing people, as are most drinkers.

The state of the NHS would be entirely different if alcohol didn't exist. I strongly believe that alcohol-related injuries/illnesses should be paid for by the patient.

Yes, drinking alcohol is a choice, but addiction is not. And addiction is an illness.
No one chooses to be an addict. Sadly, I have lost a few friends over the years due to addiction. They were all told to stop drinking, or it would kill them... and it killed them. Their addiction had that much of a grip on them, and believe me, no one chooses that.

I can't be on board with people having to pay for treatment for alcohol related issues. Food addiction is a thing. Would you be ok with people having to pay when their obesity lands them in hospital too? Or people who self harm?
A lot of hospital admissions would be avoided if people just stayed in bed and did nothing.

Auburngal · 22/03/2024 22:27

Sometimes on wombling group picks, we do laybys, major roads (not motorways) and industrial estates.

We are shocked and disgusted in the amount of alcohol containers - cans and bottles we find.

One of the main things we find are Polish beers in Polish - bought from an Eastern European shop. Yet in Poland they have zero tolerance to alcohol when driving.

Watched Motorway Cops and similar programmes and I remember one Polish lorry driver had about 60 cans of strong Polish beer - unopened and opened in his cab.

Auburngal · 22/03/2024 22:29

Many people they don't know when to stop.

Imamumgetmeoutofhere · 22/03/2024 22:33

An addiction is just that, an addiction. You cannot just stop. In fact, with many addictions going cold turkey, unless you are monitored very very closely, can make you seriously unwell or even kill you.

People do not want to carry on doing the things they are doing. They need help not judgement!

MeinKraft · 22/03/2024 22:41

The companies making the booze want us to drink too much of it, that's how they make their profits. You have people sitting in the pub spouting shite about things like the Covid vaccine and they refuse to be sheep and take something so harmful to their body yadda yadda ...while pouring a literal poison produced by a massive, morally questionable industry down their throats.

hopsalong · 22/03/2024 22:50

Most people who drink too much aren't addicts. (I say this as the daughter of an alcoholic.)

Most people just enjoy drinking and occasionally drink far too much and do stupid things.

Some people drink habitually and heavily, but they are also often clever and secretive about the addiction and don't go out driving cars at night.

WalkingonWheels · 24/03/2024 01:25

XenoBitch · 22/03/2024 22:20

Yes, drinking alcohol is a choice, but addiction is not. And addiction is an illness.
No one chooses to be an addict. Sadly, I have lost a few friends over the years due to addiction. They were all told to stop drinking, or it would kill them... and it killed them. Their addiction had that much of a grip on them, and believe me, no one chooses that.

I can't be on board with people having to pay for treatment for alcohol related issues. Food addiction is a thing. Would you be ok with people having to pay when their obesity lands them in hospital too? Or people who self harm?
A lot of hospital admissions would be avoided if people just stayed in bed and did nothing.

Putting the alcohol into your body in the first place is a choice. If they didn't choose to do that, they wouldn't become addicted. It's not an illness and is really insulting to suggest so, especially to people who have actual illnesses that they haven't caused.

Not all obesity is caused by overeating. How would you prove it?

I also think that there should be a charge for smoking and drug related treatment etc too. People who knowingly choose to do things to hurt themselves should have to pay. Leave the NHS to treat people who aren't destroying themselves by consuming things that are illegal or known to cause serious damage to a human body.

WalkingonWheels · 24/03/2024 01:27

Imamumgetmeoutofhere · 22/03/2024 22:33

An addiction is just that, an addiction. You cannot just stop. In fact, with many addictions going cold turkey, unless you are monitored very very closely, can make you seriously unwell or even kill you.

People do not want to carry on doing the things they are doing. They need help not judgement!

When genuinely ill people cannot get the help they desperately need, I certainly judge those who choose to make themselves ill. We could all sit here and get addicted to something if we chose to, but we don't.

KattyBoomBoom95 · 24/03/2024 01:35

If we were going to choose our actions on the outcome of two people out of many millions then it'd be much more logical to ban cars too as they kill a lot of people.

KattyBoomBoom95 · 24/03/2024 01:37

WalkingonWheels · 24/03/2024 01:25

Putting the alcohol into your body in the first place is a choice. If they didn't choose to do that, they wouldn't become addicted. It's not an illness and is really insulting to suggest so, especially to people who have actual illnesses that they haven't caused.

Not all obesity is caused by overeating. How would you prove it?

I also think that there should be a charge for smoking and drug related treatment etc too. People who knowingly choose to do things to hurt themselves should have to pay. Leave the NHS to treat people who aren't destroying themselves by consuming things that are illegal or known to cause serious damage to a human body.

Hmm, but many ailments could've been possibly prevented with the right lifestyle choices so it's a slippery slope. If somebody chose a sedentary desk job and never exercised would they pay extra for back surgery etc?

Glow22 · 24/03/2024 03:36

Magnastorm · 20/03/2024 19:51

My god, you've cracked it.

All addicts should just immediately stop being addicts. Problem solved.

Most of them don't even try though. There's lot of support out there but most of them don't even try.

I can understand that more for alcoholics who drink daily, but there's plenty of problem drinkers who don't drink daily and they could absolutely be taking steps to try to stop themselves from drinking in the future but instead they just don't bother.

Maybe they'll make a token effort if their partner wants to leave them, but that's more manipulation than anything else.

Glow22 · 24/03/2024 03:40

XenoBitch · 22/03/2024 22:20

Yes, drinking alcohol is a choice, but addiction is not. And addiction is an illness.
No one chooses to be an addict. Sadly, I have lost a few friends over the years due to addiction. They were all told to stop drinking, or it would kill them... and it killed them. Their addiction had that much of a grip on them, and believe me, no one chooses that.

I can't be on board with people having to pay for treatment for alcohol related issues. Food addiction is a thing. Would you be ok with people having to pay when their obesity lands them in hospital too? Or people who self harm?
A lot of hospital admissions would be avoided if people just stayed in bed and did nothing.

Many problems drinkers don't have an addiction to alcohol in the sense that alcoholics would have an addiction.

But yet they choose not to get help to try to stop them from drinking in the future. They know how they behave when they drink but yet they risk causing harm every time they drink because they don't want to give up that buzz, even if it is infrequent.

cerisepanther73 · 24/03/2024 05:31

I know someone who has had 7 children put into Foster care and two adopted out through alchol demons ,

she sleeps around and binge drinks massively

she tried to take tablets to end her life i helped her toke her to hospital

VestibuleVirgin · 24/03/2024 06:36

Flaming biscuits, the Temperance brigade are out in force here! Have you all taken The Pledge?
No drinking, no activity which may cause you to be hospitalised, no smiling...

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