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AIBU for getting sick of friends baby voice?

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Itsmekate · 20/03/2024 02:21

Name changed as this is outing.

My friend of many years has always been quirky and that’s why I love her, she’s over 40 but still has a silly side and is very reluctant to grow up! Even her children get embarrassed sometimes at her immature behaviour but she just doesn’t give a fuck what anyone thinks.

Some examples of her behaviour are: skipping round supermarkets singing, wearing very bright clothing often covered in glitter and unicorns, finding it funny to fart in meetings and blame someone else, giving people silly nicknames, playing practical jokes etc…
Her teenagers love her to bits but often have to tell her to grow up and remind her that she has friends her own age when she wants to join them when they go out of friends visit the house.

I know this makes her sound like a nightmare but she’s an amazing friend in every other way and puts everyone before herself, other then these quirky behaviours she’s loyal, great company, reliable and trustworthy. She’s had a lot of tragedy in her life which I think has caused her to regress and why I worry I’m being unreasonable.

Recently she’s started talking in a baby voice and changing her words to childish ones, she’ll say things like here come the nee naws, I got an ouchie, I need to go do a wee wee, my wanna do it, and in a whiney voice “that’s minnnnne” or “I don’t wanna gooooo”
She had to go to an important meeting and asked me to go as support but I had to tell her to get a grip when she span on a swivel chair saying “wheee watch me!”

I have mentioned this a few times and she gets defensive and says it’s just a bit of fun, her children are older teens but she copies things her young nieces and nephews say.
Her children have begged her not to do this and my partner refuses to go out with us after she was behaving like this in public. Her parents have told her to grow up and she just laughs and calls anyone who criticises boring, the more people comment the worse it gets.

I know this sounds absolutely ridiculous and people will think I’m making it up, but it’s actually getting ridiculous because I’m starting to hate spending time with her, I feel terrible saying I’m embarrassed by my friend but an adult skipping round Tesco wearing a unicorn backpack and singing silly made up rhymes just attracts attention and I hate people staring at her and judging her, it makes me feel protective as well as embarrassed.

WIBU if I tell her that people don’t see her as this young fun person she thinks she is and that it’s making me cringe or should I just hope she’ll eventually either take on board what people are saying and hope it passes? If it’s making her feel better about growing older then should I be interfering? She’s not hurting anyone and doesn’t do it all the time - but it is becoming more frequent and I’m scared it’ll become an ingrained habit.

If anyone asks her age or date or birth she tells them she’s 18 and even if it’s being asked for an important reason (like a hospital appointment) she refuses to back down until they just go along with it. I think most people are humouring her assuming she’s mentally ill and I don’t feel that’s the case. I think she’s just recently turned 40 and completely in denial but I’m hoping as she gets used to it the behaviour will stop.

I wondered if anyone else knows someone like this and how they handled it? I don’t want to lose my friend but it’s difficult having a serious conversation with someone who answers serious questions like “did you get your car fixed?” With
“No brum brum is still poorly and has to go to car hospikal”
Its getting increasingly difficult not to get frustrated and angry.

She has no husband or partner because she wanted to wait until her children were grown up and moved out so they never had a step dad they didn’t like or a blended family. This is an example of the selfless person she is, her children’s father has seen this side of her but just says it’s nothing to do with him and it’s not causing any harm to the kids and she’s just a bit batty.

OP posts:
Ger1atricMillennial · 21/03/2024 01:26

She might be sick, or she might be a self-centered person who only wants attention. The fact is that it is affecting you, and I am not surprised.

I guess you could just ignore her when she is behaving in that way, and let her choose how she responds, but this would be exhausting.

Ger1atricMillennial · 21/03/2024 01:28

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 20/03/2024 20:11

I agree - please don't dull her sparkle OP

Farting in meetings, and running around an office chair are not sparkle.

KomodoOhno · 21/03/2024 01:34

Ger1atricMillennial · 21/03/2024 01:28

Farting in meetings, and running around an office chair are not sparkle.

This.

RogueFemale · 21/03/2024 01:40

Early onset dementia perhaps? Or has she suffered any extreme trauma such as loss of a child? Her behaviour is regressive and retreating into a 'safe' space of long ago childhood. I would encourage her to see a therapist.

OooScotland · 21/03/2024 01:48

Many will disagree but this is how I see it.

I know you don’t want to believe it but if this is all true (it is very hard to believe), this person is mentally unwell. Likely, as others have said, a form of ptsd dating back to childhood and perhaps now exacerbated by peri menopause.

I’d not be seeing her, at least in public, until she agrees to get a medical / psych assessment.

If she cuts you off for insisting on this as a condition of your friendship you have to let her go. You cannot help her, and you cannot, for your own sanity, be around this undiagnosed illness long term.

ilovebreadsauce · 21/03/2024 01:48

I think it makes her think of a time in her life she felt safe and secure, possibly before some emotional trauma.
I think it is quite shameful , when her so called friends won't be seen with her in public

Itsmekate · 21/03/2024 02:09

Bit of an update…

After reading all the comments l decided to have a proper open chat and address it.

I don’t think it’s mental health issues and if I call her with a real problem she is patient and understanding without a trace of silliness. She knows when it’s absolutely inappropriate to behave like that and it wouldn’t be appreciated.
I have professional experience dealing with mental illness and I don’t think she would be able to turn it off and on.

The refusing to give her age in serious situations is annoying because 9/10 the person asking laughs along politely. The conversation is usually something like this
can you give your name please? “Jane Smith”
How old are you? “18?”
Really?!
“Oh do I not look 18? Don’t disappoint me, it’s obvious I’m not a day older!”

The person asking usually laughs along and humours her and then eventually she does sigh and say “ohhh ok if you REALLY insist” then whispers her age quietly a few times so you can’t hear then eventually says it audibly.

If they don’t laugh along or humour her she gives her age but pretends to sulk or says her birth certificate was wrong. It’s not delusional behaviour it’s just attention seeking and I assume wanting reassurance that she looks young?

The farting in meetings is a similar thing, she’ll let out a fart and then look round in fake shock and blame someone else, people generally laugh which encourages her, if they don’t she sees it as them having no sense of humour.
She tried it in front of my partner once and farted and blamed him, he was absolutely disgusted (he would never fart in front of anyone himself it’s not because she’s a woman) and she apologised and never did it again.

We went for a walk and had a long talk where I said she’s an amazing friend and most of the time is genuinely funny but I was finding some of her behaviour frustrating - mainly the baby voice and talk. I said it’s one thing to be inhibited and not care what people think but the childish talking and words were doing my head in and I was worried it was becoming a habit. She was quite offended and embarrassed when I said it wasn’t cute for a 40 year old to talk about bic bics (biscuits) and nee naws.

It was an awkward conversation and she disagreed when I said no one found it funny but must have asked for other opinions because she didn’t say much but then called me later and admitted that I was right and others had admitted they didn’t appreciate it. She laughed at herself and said she didn’t realise she was coming across as such a dickhead which is great because now there is no awkwardness between us and we can laugh about it. I’ve agreed to point it out if she slips up.

Thank you to everyone that commented and advised me to talk to her, I think I’ve got through to her and it’s going to stop. It was nice to hear that there are others out there as well!
I don’t want her to suddenly change into someone else and I can cope with the clothes and the skipping - sometimes I skip along! I’m just glad there will be no more baby talk and constantly having to ask for translation. I was tempted to post screen shots of text messages but that would have been very outing and cruel, I didn’t want to poke fun at her I wanted genuine advice.

OP posts:
Itsmekate · 21/03/2024 02:16

I just wanted to add for the people who commented on the unicorn backpack not being so bad…

I changed a few details so it wasn’t outing and the backpack was one of them. It’s not a unicorn but it is designed for very small children.
I just thought I’d add this as I don’t want to put anyone off who has a unicorn one or is tempted to go and buy one 😂.

OP posts:
SpringtimeBunny · 21/03/2024 03:25

WhatWhereWho · 20/03/2024 04:12

If her behaviour is getting worse it suggests something could be wrong. She's either just someone who enjoys acting out and the attention it brings or she's unwell. She sounds exhausting and given that she does not seem to care about the impact she has on her kids and other people does not sound that nice.

I do not understand why you are around her. Encourage her to get some help if it's necessary or refuse to be around her because she behaves like this. If she is unwell she needs help if she's just being an attention seeker she needs people to stop encouraging it -which you are. If you care as much as you then be honest with her and distance yourself if she refuses to act like a grown up.

Because she is a good friend and cares about her, what sounds like long term, friend's wellbeing ConfusedHmm

pinkmushroom5 · 21/03/2024 05:24

grinandslothit · 20/03/2024 04:31

She sounds fun.

If this was a man, everybody would be going on saying how fun and eccentric he is.

There are plenty of grumpy miserable people around and people put up with it, but somehow a woman who has decided to be light-hearted and fun has something wrong with them and needs to be told off.

If you don't like her, don't hang out with her anymore. I'm sure there will be other people who want to hang out with her.

Insisting that your age as 18 on important documents/ appointments when you know that you are not really 18 is not just fun, eccentric and light-hearted. The concerns are nothing to do with her gender - this would be concerning behaviour for a male or female.

She has a mental health issue. Perhaps linked to recently turning 40 - it's hard to know. But this kind of behaviour is not normal and is beyond just being fun and eccentric.

Northernsouloldies · 21/03/2024 06:15

grinandslothit · 20/03/2024 04:31

She sounds fun.

If this was a man, everybody would be going on saying how fun and eccentric he is.

There are plenty of grumpy miserable people around and people put up with it, but somehow a woman who has decided to be light-hearted and fun has something wrong with them and needs to be told off.

If you don't like her, don't hang out with her anymore. I'm sure there will be other people who want to hang out with her.

No they wouldn't be saying if he was a man he's fun and eccentric.
It would be more a case of he's a fucking idiot.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/03/2024 06:36

I’ve just picked up your thread. You did really well with your friend. I hope this is now resolved… or at least she continues to agree to you pointing out her behaviour. You sound very patient and kind.

murphys · 21/03/2024 06:54

You're a good friend OP.

Is she on Tiktok a fair bit? Not sure why at one point I got on to the algorithm of people doing 'fun' stuff in public and gauging people's reactions. I was wondering if it may have started out this way, and then escalated as she likes the attention.

Let's hope she had taken in what you said and she realized she's been taking things too far.

Wastedagreatusername · 21/03/2024 06:59

jen337 · 20/03/2024 21:32

The world would be a terribly boring place without people like her.

I could totally live in a world where people did not fart in meetings and blame it on others. In fact, happily I do.

Wastedagreatusername · 21/03/2024 07:06

Seen your update OP.

so there we go. She’s crafted a personality and has mistaken people politely or awkwardly laughing along for them genuinely liking this personality and as a result she has grown it further and further.

We all craft personalities, some more obviously or consciously than others.

Well done for speaking to her about it.

Duechristmas · 21/03/2024 07:22

ChiefEverythingOfficer · 20/03/2024 19:29

Irreverence can be a coping mechanism. You mentioned she had been through some trauma.

I cope with my autism related anxiety by being silly. Silly songs, silly jokes, talking to animals in a funny voice. I wear mismatched clothes and sometimes odd socks. I whistle when really stressed and twirl my hair. Masking comes in many forms.

I modify / tone this down depending on the situation. I would NEVER embarrass my friends and family by doing this in public. My friends would describe me as quirky but I hold a senior exec position and can 'read the room.

I think her innate quirky nature is spiralling - possibly due to trauma. She is doubling down as her coping mechanisms kick in.

There is nothing you can do, but draw your own line in the sand i.e don't see her for a few weeks/months and be honest if she asks why. I don't think you can 'change' her. Rather she will change when confronted by the results of her behaviour such as the cooling of a dear friendship.

#edit spelling

Edited

It's all of this, it's OK to be silly, wear 'silly' clothes and do 'silly' things, but as an adult our skill is knowing the time and the place. In your early 20s you might still get away with it, your frontal lobe hasn't stopped developing, but as a middle aged person reading the room is important.
I would suggest GP, counseling and either support or space.

bradpittsbathwater · 21/03/2024 07:41

Glad the conversation went well op. She's icky to have you. You must have had the patience of a saint to put up with that behaviour.

Spudthespanner · 21/03/2024 08:04

She had to go to an important meeting and asked me to go as support but I had to tell her to get a grip when she span on a swivel chair saying “wheee watch me!”

😂

Jesus suffering Christ

Dontblameitonsunshine · 21/03/2024 08:29

I think serious mental illness has developed from what was originally a bad habit that she used as a coping mechanism. I think you should do an intervention and get her to the doctor

Dontblameitonsunshine · 21/03/2024 08:33

Aww I’ve just seen your update op. You’re a very good pal. I think you’ve really done her a good turn by being honest. It’s still a bad habit but I think it was well on its way to slipping into mental illness. Irreverence and childishness as a coping mechanism

Suffolker · 21/03/2024 08:35

It’s great that you were brave enough to talk to her about it honestly, and it sounds as though (thankfully) she’s taken it on board. People who ‘don’t give a fuck’ about what others think are generally not nice to hang out with and incredibly self centred. Before seeing your update I was only going to comment that for someone who you consider to be genuinely caring and a good person, and who has supposedly always put her children first, how does she not understand that her behaviour is affecting (and embarrassing) them? Well done for speaking up.

SJP85 · 21/03/2024 08:36

Being someone bipolar myself, it sounds like she's having a manic episode especially with you saying it has got progressively worse. The hardest part is she probably doesn't realise what she's doing it abnormal and you might have to contact MH services behind her back for advice on what to do.

PossumintheHouse · 21/03/2024 08:45

Itsmekate · 21/03/2024 02:09

Bit of an update…

After reading all the comments l decided to have a proper open chat and address it.

I don’t think it’s mental health issues and if I call her with a real problem she is patient and understanding without a trace of silliness. She knows when it’s absolutely inappropriate to behave like that and it wouldn’t be appreciated.
I have professional experience dealing with mental illness and I don’t think she would be able to turn it off and on.

The refusing to give her age in serious situations is annoying because 9/10 the person asking laughs along politely. The conversation is usually something like this
can you give your name please? “Jane Smith”
How old are you? “18?”
Really?!
“Oh do I not look 18? Don’t disappoint me, it’s obvious I’m not a day older!”

The person asking usually laughs along and humours her and then eventually she does sigh and say “ohhh ok if you REALLY insist” then whispers her age quietly a few times so you can’t hear then eventually says it audibly.

If they don’t laugh along or humour her she gives her age but pretends to sulk or says her birth certificate was wrong. It’s not delusional behaviour it’s just attention seeking and I assume wanting reassurance that she looks young?

The farting in meetings is a similar thing, she’ll let out a fart and then look round in fake shock and blame someone else, people generally laugh which encourages her, if they don’t she sees it as them having no sense of humour.
She tried it in front of my partner once and farted and blamed him, he was absolutely disgusted (he would never fart in front of anyone himself it’s not because she’s a woman) and she apologised and never did it again.

We went for a walk and had a long talk where I said she’s an amazing friend and most of the time is genuinely funny but I was finding some of her behaviour frustrating - mainly the baby voice and talk. I said it’s one thing to be inhibited and not care what people think but the childish talking and words were doing my head in and I was worried it was becoming a habit. She was quite offended and embarrassed when I said it wasn’t cute for a 40 year old to talk about bic bics (biscuits) and nee naws.

It was an awkward conversation and she disagreed when I said no one found it funny but must have asked for other opinions because she didn’t say much but then called me later and admitted that I was right and others had admitted they didn’t appreciate it. She laughed at herself and said she didn’t realise she was coming across as such a dickhead which is great because now there is no awkwardness between us and we can laugh about it. I’ve agreed to point it out if she slips up.

Thank you to everyone that commented and advised me to talk to her, I think I’ve got through to her and it’s going to stop. It was nice to hear that there are others out there as well!
I don’t want her to suddenly change into someone else and I can cope with the clothes and the skipping - sometimes I skip along! I’m just glad there will be no more baby talk and constantly having to ask for translation. I was tempted to post screen shots of text messages but that would have been very outing and cruel, I didn’t want to poke fun at her I wanted genuine advice.

Well done, OP. Sounds like a good outcome...

But I have to ask: did you flag up the farting??

grinandslothit · 21/03/2024 08:52

Well done OP.
...goes off to spin in my office chair

FangsForTheMemory · 21/03/2024 08:52

It sounds like attention seeking, pure and simple. The baby voice is something she’s started because other things have got less effective. I would spend less time with her.

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