Is he a CF, or am I a PF (petty f-r!)

[Noshowlomo]

Hi all,
Just need to know am I BU before I knock on his door. We’ve lived our house 2 years, and we are at the top of the street in a cul de sac. I’ve attached a photo with my drive and neighbours so you know whose house belongs to who. We’ve got a weird wall a tiny bit of garden area that you can see in the photo, (highlighted with yellow) which is near the pavement. I hate that wall, and want to knock it down and build something else in the summer, but I digress.
Next door down ALWAYS put their bin and bags outside my brick wall, so therefore outside my garden/house. Now I know the pavement is the pavement, and I don’t own it, but he could easily put it outside his own house and wall (highlighted blue). It really bugs me! He will put his bin and bags at the front and around the side if he has more. Last week we got there first with the bin and bags but his food bin was there and I added mine, and later he moved my food bin to add his recycling bags. We had LOADS of recycling bags last week as we’d had a kids party at home, so he put his recycling bags on ours!
It’s peeing me off! It looks like we put out loads of rubbish, and if he’s got stuff they won’t collect in his bags then they’d be left outside our house!
Bags get collected Friday, and there is now, Monday, a bag been left outside in the last 2 hours! I know you can get fined for putting bags out early, and whilst I didn’t see him out this bag out I am 99% sure it was him.
Neighbourly relations are otherwise fine, we get on, but he is known for being a bit cheeky. My friend describes him as an odd bod as she’s known the family years.
So, is he a CF - YANBU
or am I just a PF - YABU

I imagine that he thinks that as the wall borders his garden, just not at the front, it is perfectly fine. That is what it looks like to me anyway.

As it is, it wouldn't bother me particularly, unless the bins are overfull, bags split etc., in which case I might discuss it with him. It's not a hill I would be prepared to die on if I got on OK with my neighbour generally.

If he's leaving his bins out too long/putting them out too early, then I think I would just make sure my own bins are numbered, so it's obvious that if they are un-numbered they are not yours.

Wait, so is the red brick wall yours? And the piece of grass I can see to the LEFT of the red brick wall is yours too? The sloping path down to the pavement - is that yours or his?

It’s hard to see from that photo, so the wall by the white is his, then it’s his driveway, then it’s our wall, weird patch of tiny garden and that (horrible) brick wall which runs with the pavement.
The wall doesn’t border his garden, its borders mine.
@UneTasse yes that’s ours too. It’s such an odd patch, but it’s ours on the deeds. Where I have written “his” that’s his driveway. Anything to the right in the photo is ours

I would say that until you move the wall, there's not a lot you can do without seeming petty.

You can knock the wall down yourself. It's small enough, and would be a satisfying afternoon, if you can get your DH to pick up all the bricks after to take to the dump. Can you afford a fence/new wall before the summer?

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@UneTasse id love to knock it down, it does my head in, and I’d like to make more of a wall between the gardens and make that weird patch look nicer, whilst still putting a fence or something up (as otherwise people may think it’s part of the pavement. Won’t be before summer though

I think you need a hobby.

If it's your wall then knock it down, what's the problem? Seems a bit of a drama over nothing.

I have exactly the same with my next door neighbours, leaving their bins in front of a wall in front of my garden, it drives me mad. It means my bins can’t go in front of the wall and have to go over my drive and I usually leave before they’re collected so they’re in my way, whereas the neighbours go nowhere. I’m hoping that when I knock down the wall they’ll stop and actually put them on their own driveway.

i will join you in your pettiness and celebrate it 😁

It’s not the wall that’s the issue, it’s that he’s putting his bin, recycling bags and food waste outside someone elses house. Is that normal? Would you care if someone was putting their bins and bags outside your house along side yours on bin day?

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It would be obvious to anyone with even half a brain cell, where the pavement is if the wall was removed.

The only solution I have is to move them back to his bit of the wall, sorry.

Is he putting his bags around the corner in front of your drive or is he putting them in front of the short bit of wall alongside his drive. If it's the former then he's being a CF, if it's the latter I wouldn't be too bothered.

This may be outing but whatevs!ok this is me standing by my house looking the other way, border is in red. You can see the weird patch behind the wall. But still, he’s putting all his rubbish out in front of it, and now even moving our rubbish to make room for him. We have nowhere else to put ours where as he has the other side which is outside his garden. I find it so odd (drive is due a jet wash!)

I think that would get on my (petty) nerves too.

It's not next to his property, it's on the other side of a walled-in strip of your garden! If it that wall were on the far side of his drive, rather than bordering a strip of herbaceous border, he'd not be particularly unreasonable, but putting it outside your property alongside your side garden is being a bit off.

In fairness to others, though, that first lower wall of yours is hard to spot in your photo.

Sorry, cross posted with your second photo. He's a CF.

So I'd probably let him put his rubbish out, then put mine in front of his house....

Move his rubbish onto his drive every time??

You are being a PF - sorry but you are

@Curioushorse @RandomMess both options I have thought of but wanted to check if I was the petty one before starting some kind of unnecessary bin war. Just pees me off. I hate that section and want it changed but its always full of his recycling bags which makes it worse

I'd just move his rubbish every time.

Hmm, I feel exactly the same way. Live in a corner block and our rear neighbour puts their bins out in front of our property at the very back rather than in front of theirs.

Of course I'd be incredibly petty complaining, but on the odd occasion there have been lots of cars parked on the side I have parked there in that spot and don't bother moving it (don't need to drive every day) and in Australia the rubbish is removed by trucks directly and if the truck arm can't reach the bins, they don't get collected, so the neighbours have to put their bins in front of their own driveway/property.

But it doesn't look like you can park there - or could you park half on the footpath and completely block it off?

On your first photo there is a car parked on the street alongside his bit of wall. Is that the norm? Is he putting the bins to your side to avoid the parked car/ blocking the pavement. Presumably cars don't park outside your bit of wall as its on a curved piece of pavement.

Some neighbours of mine had an argument about very similar situation and it all became very ugly so I would always urge caution when it comes to potential neighbour disputes.

I wouldn't risk bad feelings with neighbours over this.