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Is he a CF, or am I a PF (petty f-r!)

109 replies

Noshowlomo · 18/03/2024 16:41

Hi all,
Just need to know am I BU before I knock on his door. We’ve lived our house 2 years, and we are at the top of the street in a cul de sac. I’ve attached a photo with my drive and neighbours so you know whose house belongs to who. We’ve got a weird wall a tiny bit of garden area that you can see in the photo, (highlighted with yellow) which is near the pavement. I hate that wall, and want to knock it down and build something else in the summer, but I digress.
Next door down ALWAYS put their bin and bags outside my brick wall, so therefore outside my garden/house. Now I know the pavement is the pavement, and I don’t own it, but he could easily put it outside his own house and wall (highlighted blue). It really bugs me! He will put his bin and bags at the front and around the side if he has more. Last week we got there first with the bin and bags but his food bin was there and I added mine, and later he moved my food bin to add his recycling bags. We had LOADS of recycling bags last week as we’d had a kids party at home, so he put his recycling bags on ours!
It’s peeing me off! It looks like we put out loads of rubbish, and if he’s got stuff they won’t collect in his bags then they’d be left outside our house!
Bags get collected Friday, and there is now, Monday, a bag been left outside in the last 2 hours! I know you can get fined for putting bags out early, and whilst I didn’t see him out this bag out I am 99% sure it was him.
Neighbourly relations are otherwise fine, we get on, but he is known for being a bit cheeky. My friend describes him as an odd bod as she’s known the family years.
So, is he a CF - YANBU
or am I just a PF - YABU

Is he a CF, or am I a PF (petty f-r!)
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Thementalloadisreal · 18/03/2024 21:49

Ariela · 18/03/2024 17:10

I'd just move his rubbish every time.

Yeah just move it back to outside his own house

Annielou67 · 18/03/2024 22:05

I would go and knock on the door. Check nicely that he knows that is your land and then ask him nicely to put his bins by his own wall.

pontipinemum · 18/03/2024 22:18

Are his bins up the top of his drive? Is just the easiest way to walk it down? Or does he come out the front door and walk right past his wall?

I think it might annoy me especially if it's your only space to leave your bins

TheSoundThatIWasHearing · 18/03/2024 22:38

Start putting your bins outside his house. If he challenges you, just say you have to do it as he is taking up the space outside your house.

Cornishclio · 18/03/2024 23:03

Doesn't that mean his bags are blocking part of your driveway if you park right near the bit adjacent to his and the wall round the extra bit of garden?

He is a CF putting his rubbish out so early. Also a CF to put beside your wall rather than in front of his. I would be tempted to move his rubbish bins and recycling to outside his house until he gets the message. Say you don't want to look at them all week.

HappiestSleeping · 18/03/2024 23:14

That area lens itself really well too having the wall next to the road taken down, a higher fence next to the neighbours drive, the bit at the front removed, and then the whole thing made into a bin store for you.

slippedonabanana · 19/03/2024 00:16

Putting out bin bags days early is completely unreasonable. He must have no shame to make people look at that on the street.

Noshowlomo · 19/03/2024 11:45

Thanks all. 64% of voters think he’s the CF, so maybe Im not being petty. Just what to do next. (Really don’t want neighbour disputes but also know that CFs act the way they do because they rely on others not challenging them or saying anything!)

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HappiestSleeping · 19/03/2024 11:47

HappiestSleeping · 18/03/2024 23:14

That area lens itself really well too having the wall next to the road taken down, a higher fence next to the neighbours drive, the bit at the front removed, and then the whole thing made into a bin store for you.

*Lends

Codlingmoths · 19/03/2024 11:50

I’d just move his stuff. And do a big number on my bins. Do that for a month or two and if he doesn’t get it you can either have a polite word or move it to the middle of their drive instead, since they could not possibly not realise you are moving their rubbish from in front of your property.

moonfacer · 19/03/2024 11:58

He's a knobber, don't let him get away with it.

qotsa · 19/03/2024 12:03

I feel like the high, pillared bit of wall on the little garden patch should be the other side. Then the area would be perfect for bin storage on your land too. Seems odd that way round, although I can see there is a low wall at the far end.

qotsa · 19/03/2024 12:07

I would just speak to him in a friendly way and say the ONLY place you have to put your rubbish is there so please could he put his alongside his own wall as otherwise you don't have enough space. Thanks. Have a great day Grin It would definitely bug me too, but, it's public land realistically and getting on the wrong side of neighbours is an awful situation to be in.

Noshowlomo · 19/03/2024 12:17

@qotsa i agree, I’d like to raise that wall, and then put a small little fence where the ugly wall is, but much smaller than it is now, but still clear that it’s part of our garden. Put some nice plans in as well.
Exactly, otherwise everything is great and we all get on.

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woahhhh · 19/03/2024 15:26

qotsa · 19/03/2024 12:03

I feel like the high, pillared bit of wall on the little garden patch should be the other side. Then the area would be perfect for bin storage on your land too. Seems odd that way round, although I can see there is a low wall at the far end.

I wonder if previous people built the little wall to hide the bins from their side. Weird not to have a proper wall running down the boundary too. That weird small ledge instead

Noshowlomo · 19/03/2024 15:40

@woahhhh there is a proper boundary wall- you can see it in my second picture. That little wall is part of the original wall that was built when the house was built about 40 years ago. There used to be a garden and no drive then

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Noshowlomo · 20/03/2024 12:45

Bags are normally put out tomorrow, so let’s see..

Thanks for all your input

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Noshowlomo · 20/03/2024 17:39

UPDATE- for anyone who cares (and I totally understand if you don’t!😂)

The bag that I was 99% sure he put out Monday, was 100% him. My husband put it behind our wall on that weird patch as didn’t want it outside our house before collection day. Next door has just now put his own big bin outside HIS wall and moved the bag from the patch out onto the street in front of our front wall and put his food waste bin there as well. I shouted to my husband and he went out (neighbour still out) and said “oh that’s your bag is it. I moved it as we can get fined for having bags out too early” and neighbour said “I was having a funny moment and forgot what day it was”. Raging at husband for not saying “we thought someone had dumped it outside OUR house/wall” Anyway full steam ahead now for getting rid of god awful wall and putting up something nicer with a taller boundary and a nice big sign that says our house number where he sticks his food big. Petty and passive aggressive !

and it’s still a day early, collection isnt until Friday.
Thanks for listening…

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Noshowlomo · 18/04/2024 16:58

Im back. I came home today, and as per photo attached, he has stuck a LOAD of cardboard boxes against our wall for collection. You can see some of it poking over onto his drive. Any wall and area that I’ve coloured red and to the left of that in the picture is ours (and we’re still planning on doing something with that useless horrible looking area) but am I within my rights now to put stuff all in front of his wall. We have no room to put all our bags at the front, and quite honestly he’s got about 12ft of wall he can put all his stuff against!
Grrrr

Is he a CF, or am I a PF (petty f-r!)
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thinkfast · 18/04/2024 17:03

Knock on his door:
"Hi neighbour. There's a load of cardboard dumped against our wall. Do you know who left it there? Oh, it's you? Could you move it please as it's on our wall. Thank you."

BIossomtoes · 18/04/2024 17:07

but am I within my rights now to put stuff all in front of his wall.

If you could be arsed. I couldn’t and it would make me laugh if I was him.

NeverEnoughPants · 18/04/2024 17:09

If theres no room outside your wall, you absolutely should put stuff outside his. Why wouldn't you?

kaben · 18/04/2024 17:20

he is being a bit unneighbourly, but it seems the reason is that if he put it outside his wall, there's a car parked there and the pavement would be blocked.

Noshowlomo · 18/04/2024 17:23

@kaben the car is on the road and the pavement is clear. He’ll put his black bin there later, but his bags, food waste, garden waste, anything for scrap man, always go outside our wall. I don’t understand it ! Others down the street put their stuff outside on the pavement so there is no issues with space

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Mountainpika · 18/04/2024 17:26

Drive needs a jet wash?
Do it just as he comes out and dumps his rubbish by your wall......