Is he a CF, or am I a PF (petty f-r!)

[Noshowlomo]

Hi all,
Just need to know am I BU before I knock on his door. We’ve lived our house 2 years, and we are at the top of the street in a cul de sac. I’ve attached a photo with my drive and neighbours so you know whose house belongs to who. We’ve got a weird wall a tiny bit of garden area that you can see in the photo, (highlighted with yellow) which is near the pavement. I hate that wall, and want to knock it down and build something else in the summer, but I digress.
Next door down ALWAYS put their bin and bags outside my brick wall, so therefore outside my garden/house. Now I know the pavement is the pavement, and I don’t own it, but he could easily put it outside his own house and wall (highlighted blue). It really bugs me! He will put his bin and bags at the front and around the side if he has more. Last week we got there first with the bin and bags but his food bin was there and I added mine, and later he moved my food bin to add his recycling bags. We had LOADS of recycling bags last week as we’d had a kids party at home, so he put his recycling bags on ours!
It’s peeing me off! It looks like we put out loads of rubbish, and if he’s got stuff they won’t collect in his bags then they’d be left outside our house!
Bags get collected Friday, and there is now, Monday, a bag been left outside in the last 2 hours! I know you can get fined for putting bags out early, and whilst I didn’t see him out this bag out I am 99% sure it was him.
Neighbourly relations are otherwise fine, we get on, but he is known for being a bit cheeky. My friend describes him as an odd bod as she’s known the family years.
So, is he a CF - YANBU
or am I just a PF - YABU

Just put your rubbish outside his house?

You have my sympathy. I live in a cul de sac and my neighbour always leaves her bin outside my half of our joint garden making me look like the lazy arse who doesn't take the bin in. DD has started moving it to the nighbours half and I suggest you do the same. Shift the neighbours rubbish back to his house over and over again til he gets the message.

@PlimplePlop sometimes his family park there, but no one ever parks on the pavement in this street, it’s quite wide and loads of drives and room so no need. Everyone else puts their bins on the pavement outside their house.

@PlimplePlop and sometimes the neighbour up does park there, but that’s another thread … 🤪

Agree with a PP, just put your rubbish in front of his house instead, hopefully he'll get the message after a couple of weeks

Put your rubbish outside his house.

Talk about pratting about, 'put your rubbish outside his place' yeah, all childish and stupid advice. When you can afford to knock the wall down, and sort out your drive way. I really couldn't be bothered with this but would say something to him in the mean time.
No point having a massive fall out over rubbish and recycling bags.

I agree with putting your rubbish on in front of his house!

If he then moves yours move his!

Put yours in front of his house.

Yeah, it would bug me too.

This would also drive me mad.
I'd possibly be ok if it was just the morning before collection but any earlier than that I'd be petty too.

What do you think his justification could be?
It's not parking on the pavement.
Could he see the bin bags from his window?

@RedDoughnut he definitely can’t see the bins or bags, as there is a wall, so I have no idea.
There are no dramas otherwise, all our neighbours are lovely, just this one thing is so weird to me.

It looks like you are on a bit of a hill? Is he worried they will roll away?

If he's an ok sort of person I'd be juvenile enough to be on alert and have a full bag just inside my front door and fly out the moment I saw him
and say
hello Brian, why are your bags on my side of the drive and not yours? Are you throwing away something dodgy?
Followed by a Mumsnet tinkly laugh.

@RedDoughnut there is a hill, the street is quiet long and steep, but everyone else down manages it. I don’t know why. Asserting his dominance?! No idea. I’ve let it slide, but that moving my food waste bin that was outside my wall to make room for his bags really peed me off!

Put your rubbish outside of his house.

If the binmen leave leave any bags as they're contaminated either sling them infront of his house or contact the council and report him for fly tipping.

That would annoy me too!

I wouldn’t want to start a battle so wouldn’t move anything outside his house but id be knocking the wall down and planting up your bit of garden overnight.

I'm fairly very passive aggressive so I would be moving his stuff back to in front of his house each time.

Let him come and ask you what's going on.

That little wall is certainly unique looking. Haha. I think all you can do is politely ask if he would mind placing his bins along his own boundary. If he carries on you might need to move them to his side until he gets the message.
I had a neighbour once who used to put their bins all the way along my railings, even though their house was double the size so plenty of space to go along their own railings. I complained and then they dumped two sacks of used cat litter outside my front door in retaliation. Charmers they were.

@BobbyBiscuits thats awful! 😮 what did you do after that?

That wall has got to go! 😩

This wouldn’t personally bother me.

In my street some of the neighbours put their bins and food waste together in one place on a piece of path. You don’t know whose extra bags belong to who. It’s outside my house, but I don’t use it so I’m not bothered.

The bin men have never objected.

This has reminded me though of my sister and her neighbour. They had a tug of war over bins. He put them outside her wall, she put them outside his wall and he put them back. It went on for a year. She was renting and has moved now. We sometimes think about driving past on bin day to see where his bins are!

I would definitely just move it in front of his house. If he moved it back, I’d go and ask why he’s putting it there. This round drive me mad too!

@Noshowlomo I played the long game. Put in an objection to their planning application when they were selling. My new neighbours love me as it meant they got the house for several thousand cheaper. Lol. No more bin dramas.

I’d move his bins so they’re blocking his drive, but I’m petty like that.

I just can't imagine caring where my neighbours put their bins on bin day. Grouping them together makes it easier for the collectors surely.

Putting stuff out early is irritating but if it's a one off I'd assume he's going to be away and had no one to ask. If putting it out early is a common thing then I think it's fine to ask him to put it outside his own house.