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To ignore son's claims about not being able to hear?

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SpinningTopps · 17/03/2024 07:05

Ds is 5 and has started to say he can't hear properly. He says he thinks he is deaf. But if I whisper he appears to hear everything I say. I think his hearing is fine.
I've looked into children's hearing tests and it seems you need a referral which seems a step too far.
AIBU to just assume all is fine or can you have hearing loss where you can hear whispers but other things are affected?

OP posts:
SpanThatWorld · 17/03/2024 16:54

SpinningTopps · 17/03/2024 15:27

I'll clarify again that I'm not a negligent mother who just ignores her son. I'm not teaching him that he's not being listened to, I haven't told him I don't believe him.

Since January I have:
Pushed and pushed for an autism referral which has been accepted.
Taken him to the doctors 4 times for various illnesses, one of which was an ear infection. He's been on antibiotics twice in this time. We've been to A&E about his breathing rate.
Have got the doctor monitoring his weight because we're worried about his eating.

So I'm not negligent. It just feels like it's one more thing and whilst I've been right about everything so far it feels like whenever I go in it's a 'back again?' Type of thing.

But I have taken note of everyone's comments and will get him a referral.

He's absolutely flying at school, brilliant phonics knowledge and is 'greater depth' with reading. Everything to me indicates his hearing is fine but I do think there might be a processing problem. Which I now realise I can get checked but probably not until he's 7.

I'm very aware of overstretched services so didn't want to waste resources.

You won't get an APD investigation until you have established that his hearing is within normal limits.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 17/03/2024 22:40

SpinningTopps · 17/03/2024 09:49

I tried whispering to him in the car and he heard fine even with noisy car sounds. So I thought that was a good test.

Nosiy car or busy classroom isn't an issue for me. Again whispering only checks one specific bit of hearing and isn't a conclusive test. The issue may be certain frequencies or it may be intermittent. Talking to someone in a busy shop or restaurant is an issue for me as is hearing the TV in a busy show. I have no trouble hearing the kids whispering things to each other in the back of the car. Id get a test done to rule it out and get his ears physically checked by a GP to rule out things like wax and glue ear if that's something GP can check for. Maybe he can hear fine and its just an excuse or happens when he's zoned out, but hearing is too important to just leave it because he can hear a whisper.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 17/03/2024 22:55

SpinningTopps · 17/03/2024 15:27

I'll clarify again that I'm not a negligent mother who just ignores her son. I'm not teaching him that he's not being listened to, I haven't told him I don't believe him.

Since January I have:
Pushed and pushed for an autism referral which has been accepted.
Taken him to the doctors 4 times for various illnesses, one of which was an ear infection. He's been on antibiotics twice in this time. We've been to A&E about his breathing rate.
Have got the doctor monitoring his weight because we're worried about his eating.

So I'm not negligent. It just feels like it's one more thing and whilst I've been right about everything so far it feels like whenever I go in it's a 'back again?' Type of thing.

But I have taken note of everyone's comments and will get him a referral.

He's absolutely flying at school, brilliant phonics knowledge and is 'greater depth' with reading. Everything to me indicates his hearing is fine but I do think there might be a processing problem. Which I now realise I can get checked but probably not until he's 7.

I'm very aware of overstretched services so didn't want to waste resources.

As PP said you'll need his hearing checked before you can get APD looked into.

A lot of the posts, especially talking about the whispering sounded like you were just being dismissive and not taking this seriously. This post sounds like you're a bit overwhelmed and you need to take a moment before you jump back in and that's ok. Having ND kids, therapy, getting diagnoses, its a marathon not a sprint. It's important you look after your own physical and mental health so you can get your DS the things he needs. If you need to not think about it and take a bit of a break then do that.

Howdidtheydothat · 18/03/2024 00:02

Pleeeease OP, make sure that his hearing is assessed alongside autism. There is a recent history of NHS misdiagnosis related to hearing problems and autism. National deaf childrens society is a fab resource for advice.

Rinoachicken · 18/03/2024 08:06

Try not to think of it as ‘one thing after another’ - think of more like you are currently at the stage of collecting all the puzzle pieces to help you understand the nature your sons difficulties.

Both my DS’s are autistic and it was the same with both of them - many many varied and different appointments, seemingly unconnected issues which actually all then made perfect sense when it came time for their ASD assessments - constipation, hearing differences, eating, weight, it all was part of the bigger picture.

SpinningTopps · 19/03/2024 19:23

To update: I spoke to the GP. It turns out he had had a hearing test at school a few weeks ago (which I had been completely unaware of).

He had it recorded that his hearing is all as it should be. Bit embarrassing to be told he's just had a hearing test!!

Perhaps just a processing issue in noisy environments and part of the bigger picture. I'll keep an eye on it over the coming months / years.

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iLovee · 19/03/2024 19:51

That's great news! At least now you know 🙂

TamanTun · 19/03/2024 20:15

That's good that you've eliminated that, now you know what you are dealing with. Good luck, keep advocating for him Flowers

Sharptonguedwoman · 19/03/2024 20:46

Singleandproud · 17/03/2024 07:18

Your child has told you something get him checked out. What's the worst that can happen if you book a GP appointment andit turns out to be nothing? Your son is young and possibly doesn't have the actual words to describe what is wrong with his hearing.

Has he had any ear infection? I find my hearing is always dulled for quite along time after having one but there are lots of other reasons.

I also get problems with one of my ear tubes and it can get blocked and dull my hearing, it feels just like when your ears pop when flying

This. Always start with the obvious, please take your son to the GP so any physical barriers to hearing are identified before even thinking about other diagnoses. I'm baffled that you'd hesitate to check.

itsgettingweird · 19/03/2024 21:04

It's interesting he's just had a test.

I'm wondering if he's made a connection somewhere about "hearing test" and "trouble hearing" and has connected dots and convinced himself he can't hear properly so he had a test?

My ds is autistic and that's the sort of tangent and random conclusion he'd make of things as a child 👀😂🙄

Daffodilsandtuplips · 19/03/2024 21:11

Get him checked, My dd didn’t show any signs of having hearing problems until she was 6, one of her teachers called me to tell me she thought dd was having troubling with her hearing. She was referred to the hospital audiology dept for more in depth tests and a scan.
Shes totally deaf in one ear. We think nerve damage from mumps caused it. She contracted mumps before she had the vaccine.
I wear hearing aids, I didn’t think I needed them until I actually got them fitted.

Cupofteaandbiscuits · 19/03/2024 21:55

Had this recently with DS. His turned out to be an ear infection in one ear. He can hear perfectly now the infection has gone. I’m sure the GP wouldn’t mind seeing your DC. just tell the GP what you’ve told us x

Mumdiva99 · 20/03/2024 07:06

Horaced · 17/03/2024 08:12

Unfortunately there is no check any more. I had my child checked just before school because he still couldn't say certain sounds. It was very quick and easy to organise via the health visitor (guess would be GP if your child is 5). All children used to get checked as a matter of course so it's not at all unreasonable to ask for a check if there's any doubt. Taking away universal screening was reliant on the fact parents would pipe up if there was an issue - it is to be expected there will be a number of referrals, even though many will end up showing the child's hearing is fine.

They are definitely checked in our area. The nurses were in yesterday doing rechecks.

She said that they are noticing a massive increase in both rechecks and then referrals. This will no doubt translate into increased waiting times for ENT appointments.

L96F · 20/03/2024 08:01

SpinningTopps · 19/03/2024 19:23

To update: I spoke to the GP. It turns out he had had a hearing test at school a few weeks ago (which I had been completely unaware of).

He had it recorded that his hearing is all as it should be. Bit embarrassing to be told he's just had a hearing test!!

Perhaps just a processing issue in noisy environments and part of the bigger picture. I'll keep an eye on it over the coming months / years.

I really would still push for a full audiology referral and get a full hearing test. Like I said in my post the school hearing test never picked up my son’s hearing issues. Like I said I’m my post his hearing was bad and needed hearing aids

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