To think that Labour have just shot themselves in the foot?

[Redrosetat]

https://twitter.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1768647056111861760?s=19&t=wqgtbWPG_X1xZDMhuF871A

‘Just now Labour MPs prevented debate on a new law to protect children and single sex spaces.

Instead they used parliamentary time to discuss ferret name choices.

@Keir_Starmer is terrified of debate on safeguarding & his MPs actively work to ignore the concerns of constituents’

There is more if you need it?

So why hasn't the Government timetabled it?

You’re right to look into who and why this is happening.

And these AIBU tend to fill up this way but 75% are yanbu even if posting with the usual backlash is not appealing

Because like migration if they actually did something about it, they would have to find something else to go on and on about for the daily hate.

This was the mistake they made when leaving the EU.

I'm confused is this the same Liz Truss who had a PMB today?

If it was so important to her couldn't she have sorted this whole thing out in 2020?

Is that your gracious way of conceding that she didn't actually support self id? 🙄

😂

Re funding - check out Angela Eagle....

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2023/06/22/angela-eagle-mp/

I think if Labour are getting the blame for choices made by the Government as a sort of proxy government we should go the whole hog.
Have an election - then you can blame Labour for the state of everything even stuff that did or didn't happen under the Conservatives.

Disgusted with Labour today and they have lost my vote.

I bet they’re heartbroken.

What do you think would have happened of the Bill had been heard?

This is interesting.

The Telegraph understands that Ms Badenoch, the equalities minister, had wanted to back large sections of the Bill but was prevented from doing so by Cabinet colleagues.

Gillian Keegan, the Education Secretary, and Victoria Atkins, the Health Secretary, had raised concerns with the legislation.

Government sources denied claims that some Tory MPs had been urged to keep talking on the earlier private members’ Bill, which was about the import of dogs, cats and ferrets.

Well, that is very interesting. Thanks blossomtoes.

I can well believe this. Badenoch takes no shit when it comes to the rights of women and girls - it makes the weedy, TWAW type of Tory upset. Keegan is another useful idiot who is unable to define what a girl actually is.

From the Times last year

“Keegan supports the idea of “safe spaces” for biological women but says the guidance does not need to legally “define what a girl is”. Rather it should set out how individuals can be supported.”

The really interesting bit is that the Cabinet didn’t back it.

So it turns out that Badenoch is more interested in maintaining her ministerial salary than following her beliefs when those beliefs conflict with long established government policy.

#typicalTory

I understand that is due to donors and lobbyists.

Yep. Blame Labour instead of her own colleagues. It is a bit weedy.

Too woke to take responsibilty for her own actions if you ask me.

Then you are very easily influenced or a true blue Tory for whom all the grifting and lies mean nothing...

I assume there are Labour supporters who think they have ‘u turned’ on gender in which case why not encourage clarity?

Others may feel they are pro gender still and actively back Labour’s gender stance and not want it to become clear for whatever reason

Either way it’s better for women to hear what Labour think re gender

You've been on these threads long enough to know exactly what they think.

We will make sure that nothing in our modernised gender recognition process would override the single-sex exemptions in the Equality Act. Put simply, this means that there will always be places where it is reasonable for biological women only to have access. Labour will defend those spaces, providing legal clarity for the providers of single-sex services.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/24/labour-will-lead-on-reform-of-transgender-rights-and-we-wont-take-lectures-from-the-divisive-tories

A self-identification system to allow transgender people to legally identify as their chosen gender without a medical diagnosis is not the “right way forward”, Sir Keir Starmer has said.

The Labour leader....also said that in his view “a woman is an adult female, so let’s clear that one up”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-labour-woman-anneliese-dodds-b2382675.html

What more clarity do you want?

You don't believe them, so nothing they say will ever be good enough.

Of course not.

I know you are loyal and satisfied with their stance I and others are not.

I want direct questions not hiding behind waffle. You can bow out if you have enough, I don’t.

@AdamRyan nails it. The posters constantly going on about Labour being 100% in the grip of the trans movement will never believe anything they say - and that is only going to make the rest of us think they have other reasons for posting endless swathes of these threads. My question, given what has been posted above, is: Would anything convince you?