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Husband lied about vaping…again

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ScottCheggg · 15/03/2024 14:44

I posted about a month ago (although have since NC) about my husband secretly vaping for about 18 months. I wasn’t as bothered by the vaping itself as the fact he completely gaslit me when I could see the smoke vapour and also smell it. He made me feel like I was imagining things every single time. The final time I’d caught him, he was doing it in our 8 year old’s bedroom which I found distasteful.

Anyway, I received some advice on how to handle it, so I was very calm about it and said I absolutely didn’t expect him to quit as I know it’s an addiction, but I didn’t want him to do it in the house as our children have previously commented on the hazy smoke so they’re absolutely noticing it too. Above all, I said I didn’t ever want him to be dishonest again, so not to be silly and promise something he couldn’t deliver. He insisted he was horrified with himself and was going to quit.

Fine…except I got home the other day and the utility room was filled the familiar haze and smell. I couldn’t believe it, and I calmly asked him if he’d been vaping again. He said no repeatedly. I kept going because I KNOW what I saw. He tried to blame it on the tumble dryer etc. He finally gave in and told me.

I just feel like such a mug because he has broken my trust again. He fully acknowledged that I was understanding about it and made it easy for him to just carry on and not need to lie.

We’ve been married 11 years, 2 lovely children, but I have lost a lot of respect for him for lying. I asked if there was anything else he’d kept secret and he admitted that before we got married he had done coke behind my back several times. For personal reasons, this has really upset me, despite how long ago it happened.

I feel conflicted because he’s been so good at portraying this hard-working good man, but he obviously has a dark side and I just feel blindsided. He’s booked relationship counselling but I don’t even know if I should bother. His lying has shown a massive lack of respect. Should I cut my losses?

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Maray1967 · 15/03/2024 21:09

Starspangledrodeopony · 15/03/2024 21:05

He’s vaping in his kid’s bedroom and lying about it. Thats fucking rank. As is vaping.

Well said. The number of posters on here who don’t seem to think there’s an issue with him vaping in the house is astounding.

There was a thread the other day by someone who wants to vape in hotel rooms and didn’t think there would be an issue.

Starspangledrodeopony · 15/03/2024 21:10

ScottCheggg · 15/03/2024 20:08

Ok I’m wrong 👍

You’re really not wrong. People (presumably people who smoke or vape) are really gunning for you for some reason. He’s a liar and he’s vapes in his kid’s room. You’re not wrong for wanting him to vape outside and think of he’s a lying prick.

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 15/03/2024 21:12

Maray1967 · 15/03/2024 21:01

Not a chance. No one vapes in my house, no one. If DH mysteriously turned into an idiot who did this it would be game over.

Ok. You'd divorce your husband over a vape. Good to know.

I'll pray that no vegetable glycerine puts your marriage asunder.

Ghentsummer · 15/03/2024 21:12

livingwithamigraine · 15/03/2024 19:17

Its just a vape tell him to smoke it outside simple.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Let it go.
Your not his mother hes not 12.
Or if you're so unhappy file for a divorce maybe he can get it right with someone else.
🙄

Oh ffs, she did tell him to vape outside. If you cant even be bothered to read the OP's posts why bother posting? He agreed he would no longer vape inside but has since continued to.

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 15/03/2024 21:16

Maray1967 · 15/03/2024 21:09

Well said. The number of posters on here who don’t seem to think there’s an issue with him vaping in the house is astounding.

There was a thread the other day by someone who wants to vape in hotel rooms and didn’t think there would be an issue.

What issue do you think there would be if someone vaped in a hotel room? I'm curious.

Ghentsummer · 15/03/2024 21:19

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Monkeyrules · 15/03/2024 21:23

I wouldn't like someone lying to me. Why does he vape indoors? Is he too lazy to go outside or do you think he likes upsetting you intentionally. Both traits aren't particularly nice in a person.

Does he try to sabotage you in other areas of your life? If not, I suspect its the addiction that's making him behave this way not that he's intentionally trying to upset you. Until he is able to give up, the vaping will always take priority over you. Only you know how much it means to you.

I'd probably trust your gut instincts. No one here has enough knowledge of your husband to judge him fairly.

DottieMoon · 15/03/2024 21:39

teabooks · 15/03/2024 17:04

Giving up smoking is not easy as a none smoker would say it is.
Vaping is much better so what would you want him to do smoke or try and stop with vaping.
You cant be telling a grown man what to do he`s an adult.
What has happened in the past stays there you cant change it you either move forward or pond on it for the rest of your life.
Just tell him you want to vape do it outside. (problem solved)
But him having to hide things from you makes one wonder are you a drama queen do you go on and on with the same thing over and over.
Maybe he feels its best not to say somethings as he dont need it thrown in his face every time you have a fall out.
Vaping in the childs room is big no no but you can talk about it so it dont happen again.

Did you even read OP's post?

She has done exactly what you said. Told him she doesn't expect him to give up and its up to him. Just don't do it in the house and don't lie about it. Which he did again!

Icepinkeskimo · 15/03/2024 21:45

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PostItInABook · 15/03/2024 21:47

You don’t trust him anymore. That’s the issue.

If the trust is gone it’s extremely hard to get it back. You have to decide whether it’s worth it to try. For me, it isn’t. I would not stay with anyone who had done things to lose my trust.

Pleasebeafleabite · 15/03/2024 21:47

Maray1967 · 15/03/2024 21:00

Maybe - but I’m having a hard time imagining why someone would do this. OP hasn’t told him he has to stop, just that he can’t do it in the house. He’s disgusting and he deserves a bollocking.

Maybe it was raining that day

PostItInABook · 15/03/2024 21:48

@Icepinkeskimo You’re being a complete nob on this thread. Move on.

Ghentsummer · 15/03/2024 21:54

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Nope, still you who can't read. Neither of us mentioned addiction. And given the rant in your post it's clearly not me who needs to calm down.

BrokenWing · 15/03/2024 21:56

My dsis's dh constantly lied to her about minor things, nothing big but irritating.

Counselling brought out for them something along the lines of (can't remember in detail as it was frankly tedious the way the pair of them went on when they were younger, and it was years ago) that even though she "permitted" him to do things the fact she believed it was her right to permit him to do things like he was a teenager and were his choice as an equal adult, and also even when she permitted him he knew she was judging and disapproving of him and he was acting up against the perceived control as a fingers up to her. He admitted in the counselling he was "scared" of her because she was too domineering/wouldn't let things go/always got her way/agreed with her just to get out of the disagreement as she would not let it go or see his side.

Relationship counselling might be the way to go, but you need to be open, as it won't just be problems on his side.

The coke if he did now would be a deal break for me as I have zero tolerance for illegal drugs. Vaping, he is a grown man, he gets to make his own choices.

Calmdown14 · 15/03/2024 22:09

I think most people would be put out if they found their previously non smoking husband vaping in their kids bedroom. However cook they like to be on Mumsnet.

It's a change in behaviour and seems an odd thing to take up as an adult if you didn't smoke.

Do you think perhaps he was at least an occasional or social smoker and you just didn't know?

I can see how you'd lose respect for someone trying to pretend it's a tumble dryer. It isn't about the vaping so much as if he can lie so easily about this, what else is there.

But don't make hasty decisions. See if you can talk properly. Is something else going on like extra stress at work which is leading to this?

Icepinkeskimo · 15/03/2024 22:19

Ghentsummer · 15/03/2024 21:54

Nope, still you who can't read. Neither of us mentioned addiction. And given the rant in your post it's clearly not me who needs to calm down.

Actually thinking about it, not one person posting their opinion on this subject will have any influence/answer/solution that the op will follow.
By the way I am perfectly calm, I do not get hysterical over a vape, unlike some that I could mention.
Neither would I consider posting about this “problem” a second time…

saltinesandcoffeecups · 15/03/2024 22:51

I think I remember round 1 of this…

@ScottCheggg what do you want from this thread?

Do you want people to tell you to LTB?
Do you want people to tell you you are right and he is wrong?
Are you bored and want to stir everyone up about vaping?

I think I said this in the last thread… but I’ll say it here just in case.

Either the vaping is a dealbreaker or it’s not -figure it out and stay and accept or divorce him
Either the lying is a dealbreaker or it’s not -figure it out and stay and accept or divorce him
Either you’re happy with or not -figure it out and stay and accept or divorce him

What you clearly can’t do is change him… for the love of all that’s holy…quit trying.

QueenBitch666 · 16/03/2024 00:51

He's a lying knob. Suck his dummy outside away from your children or he's binned
Why are men so fucking useless Hmm

Maray1967 · 16/03/2024 09:57

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 15/03/2024 21:12

Ok. You'd divorce your husband over a vape. Good to know.

I'll pray that no vegetable glycerine puts your marriage asunder.

Yes I damn well would!!
But I won’t need to - because he’s not selfish!!!

What is so hard to understand about vaping in a house being disgusting? In this case he vaped in the child’s bedroom!!!

Maray1967 · 16/03/2024 10:00

My uncle whom I loved dearly smoked all his adult life. He tried several times to give up. Not even trying vaping worked for him.

Did he smoke in his own home? Not since the 7Os, I think. Did he smoke in my house or anyone else’s he visited? No. He always smoked or vaped outside - raining or not.

Emily1583 · 16/03/2024 10:05

He needs to meet you halfway. It's no longer a secret. He can keep the vape but he must not use it indoors. Sounds a reasonable compromise on both sides.

mamacorn1 · 16/03/2024 10:08

He has lied and tried to gaslight you. These are the issues here, so forget the vaping.
can you live with a liar ? This is the question you need to ask yourself.

WandaWonder · 16/03/2024 10:09

No vaping indoors I totally get

Everything else you are not his mother if he wants to vape that is up to him

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 16/03/2024 10:14

ScottCheggg · 15/03/2024 20:08

Ok I’m wrong 👍

You're not wrong.

He vaped in his kids room!
His kids say they hate it
You say you hate it
He leaves clouds of chemical smog in the house
He agreed to go outside as the whole rest of the household hates it, then didn't
He lies, over and over and over again.
He has no respect for you or your children

I couldn't get past the lying and disrespect.

DrJoanAllenby · 16/03/2024 10:21

Smoking can be an addiction.

Vaping appears to be the lazy person's half arsed attempt to give up without having to give up.

I couldn't be with anyone so weak willed and pathetic.