No one to sign DD’s passport renewal!!

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Trying to renew DD’s passport and we have no one to sign. I could ask my manager but she hasn’t known me for 2 years and I wouldn’t want to put her in that position to lie for us.

I have 2 friends both SAHM, DH doesn’t have anyone he can ask the person he did ask doesn’t have a passport.

What on earth do we do?

I have so many people I could ask at work as I’m a HR professional but I haven’t know them two years.

'Someone with standing in the community' means someone who has something to lose by fraudulently counter-signing a passport application. So members of professional bodies, a pub licensee, a teacher for example, fall into this category.
I do a skilled job with no responsibility and so I don't. I know because I was asked to counter-sign a passport application. I asked my friend to go away and check and sure enough I didn't make the grade. A scaffolder (unless they own their own business) or a dinner lady wouldn't be able to sign either. Because doctors and teachers often don't now sign (and I fully understand why!), it is becoming increasingly difficult for some people to get passports.

How would you suggest revising? The list is already very broad.

I asked my DDs head teacher at her old primary school, as she had only been in year 7 a few months when I needed it renewed.
They happily did it.

I would see if any of her current or old teachers have an email address and ask them.
Most would be more than happy to help.

I also qualify to sign as a registered member of a professional body. I'd still only sign for someone I know on a personal basis. I wouldn't sign for a client, even a returning one I'd known for the required length of time.

I think it's more likely to be a school rule, they're still on the list as a profession if they want to do it for a friend.

They do need to be careful, one of our teachers had to go to court after signing one for someone who wasn't who she thought they we're.

I do an admin job and have signed successfully. Not a member of any professional body. The scaffolder and dinner lady are totally worth a try.

I thought the advice changed it didn't need to be a registered professional anymore just someone you knew for a period of time.

So a friend or neighbour

Or ask one of her teachers

Last resort GP but they usually charge for this service.

That's not true. They can if they want to or can charge a fee for it.

But a school would have verified ID for a child on their roll.

You do if their appearance has changed significantly. Just renewed my daughter's, she was not quite 1 in the original passport and is now 8, so obviously she looks a bit different these days and had to have her ID verified.

Remember the list is just guidance. I asked my friend who is a Carer to sign my husbands and it was fine. My husband is a Civil Servant so can also sign them, I can I think too as I have a professional role.

Midday supervisors have DBS definitely good standing in the community too. I'd go with her if she has a passport

(Dinner ladies often called midday supervisors now)

Do any of the scaffolders or similar type of jobs have a registered company? If they operate independently they might.

I don’t think a dinner lady can. Only certain professions

Did she go to nursery? Could you email the manager?

The list of people allowed to sign is a list of suggestions, not an exclusive one.

It is not limited to professions as repeatedly posted on the thread.

A dinner lady would have good standing in the community.

Yeah - found it a pain in the arse. You are signing that you have known the parent for 2 years, but kids in Year 7 were asking me, so obviously I hadn't even know the child for 2 years and I had only met the parents once a parents' evening. They wouldn't accept this and were grumpy - told me they were only asking at school because the GP charged a fee.

Actually I was relieved when they said you had to give your own passport details (this was on a paper form handed back to the child, so yes the child and parents would have seen this) because when my passport expired I could honestly say I couldn't do it. Even then I was accused of lying because obviously I must have a passport.

Under 12s need a countersignature

As someone who countersigns many passports PLEASE do it online.

OP has already said shes doing it online

Nonsense. If that was the case no under 2 year olds could have passports

Bank Manager, lawyer , teacher at child's school ,religious leader, other medical professional, accountant, estate agent ?

A friend who is a teacher or GP can. Teachers can't do it for their own students or GPS for their patients