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No one to sign DD’s passport renewal!!

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Pinkloveheartpjs · 15/03/2024 08:45

Trying to renew DD’s passport and we have no one to sign. I could ask my manager but she hasn’t known me for 2 years and I wouldn’t want to put her in that position to lie for us.

I have 2 friends both SAHM, DH doesn’t have anyone he can ask the person he did ask doesn’t have a passport.

What on earth do we do?

I have so many people I could ask at work as I’m a HR professional but I haven’t know them two years.

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Sgtmajormummy · 15/03/2024 11:35

From .gov.uk
I sent a letter of attendance from her school. Easy Peary.

No one to sign DD’s passport renewal!!
MuggleMe · 15/03/2024 11:37

Dinner lady employed by an outside catering company or the school? Could be local authority employee/civil servant technically if school.

YouHaveAnArse · 15/03/2024 11:39

I've been getting the paperwork together for my Irish citizenship application, and the range of people who can countersign your documents is even narrower, and they either need to have known you (or have known someone who has known you) for ten years. GPs won't countersign in our area, I see a different dentist every time I go, the 'professional' people I have known for that long and could easily ask (magistrate, senior civil servant) aren't listed occupations, no kids so no headteacher etc, not religious so no priest etc. And you can't pay someone to notarise it, either. It's annoying as heck.

If you're in an area like mine where GPs won't countersign and you don't have, basically, middle-class friends as per the list of approved countersignatories for a UK passport, I can see it being an issue. It's happened to people before https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/16289833.passport-hitch-hits-blackburn-dementia-mums-final-holiday/

Passport hitch hits Blackburn dementia mum's 'final holiday'

TWIN sisters could be denied a vitally important trip of a lifetime after struggling for months to get their passport applications approved.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/16289833.passport-hitch-hits-blackburn-dementia-mums-final-holiday

Maxwellfatcat · 15/03/2024 11:41

Who signed her first passport OP?

Katiesaidthat · 15/03/2024 11:46

Wonderpig · 15/03/2024 10:57

I think it feels hard to be in this position because it's kind of embarrassing to admit to not having a big enough social network to facilitate this.

I think the passport agency is probably not strict about the profession of the person, provided you are obviously a UK national. I reckon in reality anyone with a job and a passport will do.

Really? My boss signed for mine, he is a lawyer, but American. No one queried it.

Crochetablanket · 15/03/2024 11:47

I think that asking schools is a bit much tbh - they have enough to do without parents chasing signatures. Same with GP. Surely you must have know someone for more than two years? Previous work colleagues? Friend of your DP? Childhood friends?

Sgtmajormummy · 15/03/2024 11:50

Not RTFT so I didn’t see the age of the child. DD is 16+ so her passport renewal was from Child to Adult Passport. Maybe not so difficult.

I found the process very straightforward
EXCEPT
they only give you the information step by step.
So OP, you may be worrying about nothing. Try starting the online process and see how far you get.

  1. Name, DOB, previous passport number
  2. Acceptable photo uploaded.
  3. Payment.
  4. Application number given by passport office.
  5. List of documents above (one only)
  6. Check your application online using the application number at point 4.
You send that document- original only and the old passport by sign-for delivery. They receive and accept your document. 3 (in our case) days later they send you the new passport.

THIS IS FOR RENEWAL.

kindletimeisfinetime · 15/03/2024 11:51

Pinkloveheartpjs · 15/03/2024 09:04

I’ve just rang the passport office and they have said her teacher can? I didn’t think that was possible so I will ask.

My friends partners have “normal jobs” scaffolders

I've signed for my pupils loads!!

kindletimeisfinetime · 15/03/2024 11:52

Zonder · 15/03/2024 10:11

I've been signing passports for 30 years and never once had a call about it!

I've had two calls in the time I've been doing it- 25 years now

DaisyHaites · 15/03/2024 11:57

Dewdilly · 15/03/2024 09:17

But lots of people - perhaps the majority - won’t know people like that from school.

I went to a school that was failing so badly that it was closed down three years after I left. In an impoverished area, I know of at least 10 people off the top of my head who are accountants, teachers, doctors, nurses, business owners or managers. I would imagine most year groups at school produce at least a handful of people who can sign passports.

JonVoightBaddyWhoGrowls · 15/03/2024 12:00

Your SAHM parent friends can sign. It's fine. My SAHM friend who was a teacher signed for DS. They don't have to be actively or currently employed.

Basically, the signatory needs to be someone who can be checked out as being legit. So quite frankly, someone who has paid taxes, has a British passport etc is fine.

viques · 15/03/2024 12:03

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/03/2024 10:20

Why though? It's a nice thing to do for someone that has no ill effect on you, unless the remote possibility of a phone call is too much for you. Your attitude seems incredibly high and mighty.

I gave up signing when the regulations changed and you had to include your own details, including passport details. I really didn’t want to be giving personal information to parents.

AnnaMagnani · 15/03/2024 12:14

Why would a dinner lady friend not be fine? She would be 'in good standing in her community '

Citrusandginger · 15/03/2024 12:16

Whereareallthemillionaires · 15/03/2024 10:29

It’s worth pointing out you don’t need to know them for 2years your dd needs to.

Do you go to church as a vicar or priest could sign also.

The counter-signatory for a child passport is confirming that they have known the parent fir two years. Not the child. It's why many schools have advised Teachers not to sign, unless they know the parents socially.

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 12:21

VickyEadieofThigh · 15/03/2024 10:34

Secondary teachers teach hundreds of children. Being asked constantly to do their passports AND their family members is a pain. It DOES have "an effect" because the requests are never-ending. Often, we haven't known the kid for 2 years and really don't know their parents and they get VERY arsey when we point this out and say we cannot do it.

Nothing "high and mighty" about it, mate.

Exactly. I once refused to sign for a renewal for a parent I'd met for the first time three months previously. She was very annoyed about it having sent her son in with the paperwork.

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 15/03/2024 12:23

My hairdresser signed mine 🤣🤣🤣

cerebuswannabe · 15/03/2024 12:24

I've just renewed my son's passport online and didn't need anyone to sign anything.

UnbelievableLie · 15/03/2024 12:24

I wouldn't fixate on the "profession" bit, none of ours were ever signed by anyone other than an unrelated adult that we knew for some time. Job didn't matter.

QforCucumber · 15/03/2024 12:24

viques · 15/03/2024 12:03

I gave up signing when the regulations changed and you had to include your own details, including passport details. I really didn’t want to be giving personal information to parents.

you don't give the parent the info,

I've just (yesterday) done DS1 renewal and DS2 first passport, I input friends email address - they email a link to friend who inputs her own info, name DOB and passport number. tick a box and confirms she has known me for 2 years and another confirms that kids pics looks like them. Then I get an email notification to say she has completed it.

BertieBotts · 15/03/2024 12:25

Unemployment benefits, I mean.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/03/2024 12:25

Pinkloveheartpjs · 15/03/2024 08:49

Teachers and GP’s not allowed to anymore

When did become unable to sign? Some schools stopped it because of CF parents making demands instead of asking. Also you have to have known the child or the parents for two years and this doesn't always apply. I have often signed for friends.

Dibblydoodahdah · 15/03/2024 12:25

Whereareallthemillionaires · 15/03/2024 10:26

Any one of these. As an example, I should say they’ve left out a lot eg architect, lawyer judge. Generally it’s a qualified professional
Id pop into the school and ask dcs teacher to sign assuming they’ve known your dc for 2years.

Solicitor and barristers are both listed. UK lawyers will be one or the other as will judges.

ilovesooty · 15/03/2024 12:26

ClaudiaWankleman · 15/03/2024 10:49

You aren't the go to for students' parents passport signatures. It's simply not true that all your students ask you, on a never ending basis, to sign their parents' passport renewals. Not only because almost all adult passport applications don't require countersignature, but also because most adults will have someone else to ask.

Also, I don't believe they 'get arsey' with you on this never ending basis. Not least because no teachers have that kind of communication with parents - there's no face-to-face or phone communication. It's homework planners, email or the annual parents evening.

High and mighty.

Just one unpleasant incident like I had was quite enough. I had to put up with a lot of pleading from the child at the time as well, and it wasn't his fault. However you've made up your mind about it, evidently.

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/03/2024 12:27

@viques you give the school address and phone number.

Dibblydoodahdah · 15/03/2024 12:27

cerebuswannabe · 15/03/2024 12:24

I've just renewed my son's passport online and didn't need anyone to sign anything.

Presumably your son is 12 or above. It’s only under 12’s that need to be countersigned.

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