Page 35 | Neighbour using my drop kerb!

mykerb · 2024-03-12T20:54:16+00:00

A new family have moved in next door - not attached we are a row of two semi's each and so on.. I have a driveway and a dropped kerb. So it goes my drive, pavement and then the dropped kerb. My next door neighbours have a make shift drive (from previous tenants) but NO dropped kerb, it doesn't help that their neighbours have 4 cars and two permanently parked outside their garden so the new neighbours have nowhere to park except down the road because of it but again not my problem! They have started driving over my drop kerb to park in the make shift drive, I have started parking on my dropped kerb to make a point of it and I did block them in, to which the woman politely asked if I could move my car so she could reverse out, I told her I don't appreciate her using the kerb to park in, to which she replied that she is going to be getting the curb outside hers dropped but it will take a while due to getting planning permission etc and it's hard to walk down the road with 3 kids and a newborn so it's just been more convenient, but she won't do it again if it bothers me. Tbh she hasn't had a chance to park there again as I have started parking in front of my drive, on my dropped kerb but my sister has said I'm being petty for no reason and making her life harder and it's not a big deal! And it's really irked me because now I don't know if I'm being unreasonable or not!

Rosscameasdoody · 14/03/2024 20:09

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 16:46

Okay, I'm going to repeat this one more time before I start to bang my head against a brick wall.

The neighbour's driveway is immediately adjacent to the OP's driveway. Therefore, the neighbour isn't driving across the pathway any more than the OP does to get into her driveway.

What the neighbour is doing is NOT illegal, so I kindly suggest YOU get your facts right.

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Depends on whether the pavement needed to be reinforced for the weight of a car. If so, and the bit leading to the neighbours’ driveway hasn’t been, then it may damage it.

Humphhhh · 14/03/2024 20:12

mykerb · 12/03/2024 21:03

Not really, it just irks me how they use my kerb to angle themselves into their "driveway"

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It is honestly beyond petty. So what if you paid for it.

Be a better person.

Rosscameasdoody · 14/03/2024 20:15

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 16:27

Yes, it most definitely is. Are you seriously suggesting that wheelchair users/parents with prams, for example, aren't allowed to use it? Utter nonsense. It is perfectly fine for the neighbour to use it to access their driveway which is directly adjacent to the OP's, meaning that they're literally driving straight over the pavement as the OP and everyone else would.

And your quote from your local council says absolutely nothing to support your argument so I don't understand why you've posted it.

It does, however, state "It is an offence under Section 184 of the Highways Act 1980 to gain vehicle access to a property or land without a constructed vehicle crossing. For example, by using a normal footpath or verge."

And "Unauthorised vehicle crossovers can cause damage to the pavement and present a danger to pedestrians. This includes driveways without a dropped kerb, and dropped kerbs that were not constructed by us."

Well, the neighbour ISN'T driving over a verge or raised kerb, she's using the dropped kerb which is perfectly legal! Good grief.

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Can’t be arsed with this any more. No one has mentioned prams or wheelchairs - we’re talking about cars. Even in the face of council rules you’re still arguing. If the neighbour is driving over the bit of the pavement in front of her own drive which hasn’t been reinforced to take a car, they will
potentially damage it. And that is enforceable. The council will hold them liable for the repair costs.

puzzledout · 14/03/2024 20:17

@Rosscameasdoody so glad you can't be arsed with it anymore! 🙌

Sage71 · 14/03/2024 20:23

Wow you would sooner see her struggle up the road with three kids and a newborn. Your sister is spot on. Hope you are never in a difficult situation relying on a little kindness from someone else temporarily.

Lollipop81 · 14/03/2024 20:24

How on earth could this possibly bother you. I can’t believe you won’t let them do it 😂😂 I think your been pretty petty, I don’t think I would even notice if my neighbours were doing this, I certainly wouldn’t care 😂😂😂 why would you be so difficult.

MrsGrubtec7 · 14/03/2024 20:25

mykerb · 12/03/2024 21:03

Not really, it just irks me how they use my kerb to angle themselves into their "driveway"

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So you had the option to help out a neighbour by allowing her temporary use of the dropped kerb but you are choosing to let her walk down the road with 3 kids and a newborn in tow because it “irks” you? Wow. She’ll remember that whenever you might need a bit of a helping hand. FWIW I don’t think paying to have the kerb dropped means you have sole rights to it. You should apologise and offer your neighbour a bit of support.

Balloonhearts · 14/03/2024 20:35

Jesus. That's so petty I'm embarrassed for you 🤣

DotAndCarryOne2 · 14/03/2024 20:46

puzzledout · 14/03/2024 20:17

@Rosscameasdoody so glad you can't be arsed with it anymore! 🙌

Yes, why not applaud. A poster talking sense and backing it up with evidence has been shouted down with half arsed arguments and chased off the thread because what they’re saying doesn’t gel with the batshit world of MN, where it’s perfectly fine to break the law because you have kids. Well done.

Ydkiml · 14/03/2024 20:52

Your poor neighbours living next to you . It’s not your curb . I think you love the control .

theilltemperedclavecinist · 14/03/2024 20:57

@Rosscameasdoody If the neighbour is driving over the bit of the pavement in front of her own drive which hasn’t been reinforced to take a car, they will
potentially damage it. And that is enforceable. The council will hold them liable for the repair costs.

Old neighbour has been doing this for thirty years. And this section of pavement is about to be dug up for a dropped kerb. So no problem?

Alwaytired44 · 14/03/2024 20:58

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 12/03/2024 21:12

Wrong - you pay good money for a dropped kerb we always have them widened if there is already one. The dropped kerb does belong to the resident - trust me bud

Here where we live - we can have our dropped kebs designated as no parking/blacking - we don't need to do that but people living near the station half a mile away have done that and call over the CEO's when their driver is blocked or encroached upon

OP - you are more than petty. She was nice to you, a rare thing these days as so many people feel entitled

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The dropped kerb definitely does NOT belong to the resident. The resident is paying for the kerb to be dropped not the kerb itself. The kerb continues to belong to the council.

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 21:15

Rosscameasdoody · 14/03/2024 20:15

Can’t be arsed with this any more. No one has mentioned prams or wheelchairs - we’re talking about cars. Even in the face of council rules you’re still arguing. If the neighbour is driving over the bit of the pavement in front of her own drive which hasn’t been reinforced to take a car, they will
potentially damage it. And that is enforceable. The council will hold them liable for the repair costs.

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The majority of pavements don't need reinforcing when a dropped kerb is installed and considering the old neighbour has been driving over it for years it seems like your arguement is seriously flawed.

Anyway, you literally haven't made any sense whatsoever throughout this thread so it's pleasing to read that you can't be bothered with it anymore.

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 21:21

DotAndCarryOne2 · 14/03/2024 20:46

Yes, why not applaud. A poster talking sense and backing it up with evidence has been shouted down with half arsed arguments and chased off the thread because what they’re saying doesn’t gel with the batshit world of MN, where it’s perfectly fine to break the law because you have kids. Well done.

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Well, firstly, @Rosscameasdoody hasn't talked any sense whatsoever and certainly hasn't backed it up with any evidence at all. On the contrary, all they've done is waffle utter nonsense.

And, secondly, no laws are being broken by the OP's neighbour.

nanamoo · 14/03/2024 21:42

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 14:17

Why would anyone need to ask you to use a dropped kerb?

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Maybe because the dropped kerb is right outside OP's house and the neighbour has to partially drive over their drive to access their garden, sorry pretend drive. It's common courtesy & the neighbourly thing to do, to ask before you use something and not just assume that you can use it.

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 22:00

nanamoo · 14/03/2024 21:42

Maybe because the dropped kerb is right outside OP's house and the neighbour has to partially drive over their drive to access their garden, sorry pretend drive. It's common courtesy & the neighbourly thing to do, to ask before you use something and not just assume that you can use it.

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The fact that the dropped kerb is outside OP's house is completely irrelevant. It's part of a public highway and therefore owned by the local council, NOT the OP. If the neighbour was encroaching onto OP's driveway that would be a different matter because that's OP's private property.

Thankgodforwine · 14/03/2024 22:05

I think YANU
but for everyone saying you don't own the pavement etc, op might own the pavement and kerb, i have up to the middle of the road in my title deeds

BIossomtoes · 14/03/2024 22:11

Thankgodforwine · 14/03/2024 22:05

I think YANU
but for everyone saying you don't own the pavement etc, op might own the pavement and kerb, i have up to the middle of the road in my title deeds

So does the council send you a bill for maintenance?

Thankgodforwine · 14/03/2024 22:15

BIossomtoes · 14/03/2024 22:11

So does the council send you a bill for maintenance?

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I'm hoping my council tax covers that

CagneyAndLazy · 14/03/2024 22:16

Thankgodforwine · 14/03/2024 22:05

I think YANU
but for everyone saying you don't own the pavement etc, op might own the pavement and kerb, i have up to the middle of the road in my title deeds

That would have to be an unadopted road and in that case OP wouldn't be paying the council to drop the kerb.

CagneyAndLazy · 14/03/2024 22:17

Thankgodforwine · 14/03/2024 22:15

I'm hoping my council tax covers that

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Why would council tax cover it if you own it?

Thankgodforwine · 14/03/2024 22:18

CagneyAndLazy · 14/03/2024 22:17

Why would council tax cover it if you own it?

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Who knows....just hoping 😂

WestLondonmumfromtheNorth · 14/03/2024 22:22

DagenhamDanny · 14/03/2024 22:00

The fact that the dropped kerb is outside OP's house is completely irrelevant. It's part of a public highway and therefore owned by the local council, NOT the OP. If the neighbour was encroaching onto OP's driveway that would be a different matter because that's OP's private property.

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If it has a white line and someone parks over it then you call the council and they issue a parking ticket, as they are blocking a driveway. Eventually you can get a vehicle towed.

You can park any vehicle, as you’re not going to get yourself issued with a ticket. So it kind of is your kerb (even though the council earn money from your pain). I’m certainly claiming it as mine since I paid the council £1200 10 years ago!

Tryingmybestadhd · 15/03/2024 01:12

You are being petty and a bad neighbour.

Tatumm · 15/03/2024 01:21

Wow, 35 pages about a dropped kerb. Hasn’t anyone got anything better to do?