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To not understand the fuss about this photo?

194 replies

beeonmybonnett · 11/03/2024 13:39

Why is it all over the news about the Princess of Wales’ photograph being “manipulated “ (I assume that means it was photoshopped)

Am I missing something or have the media just lost the plot? It’s a photo? Who cares if she made some changes to it? I’m not sure how that makes our lives any different. Quite frankly, I find it absurd that this is even being given airtime when there’s much more important issues to be concerned about e.g. Gaza/Israel, Ukraine and cost of living!

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MassageForLife · 11/03/2024 14:57

CarrieHain · 11/03/2024 14:55

I think Kate has sadly passed away but they're still claiming for her expenses.

Are you for real??? 😂

Maybe they are quickly slimming down and training up and growing the hair off a lookalike... 🤫🤔😆

OneMoreTime23 · 11/03/2024 14:58

beeonmybonnett · 11/03/2024 14:26

If Catherine wishes to edit her photo what’s wrong with that? I once got a photo taken with my family around the table at a family dinner, I got my DD to use a face editing app on her iPhone to make my teeth look whiter as they looked a bit off, that edited version was then the photo that we sent to the family afterwards.

I didn’t tell anyone the photo had been edited and I doubt they’d care if they knew

The edits around her face and fingers are a lot more than whitening some teeth.

I couldn’t personally give a toss what is going on with the RF, but am a keen photographer and just amazed that they put that pic out!

Catbumfomo · 11/03/2024 15:00

If Catherine wishes to edit her photo what’s wrong with that? I once got a photo taken with my family around the table at a family dinner, I got my DD to use a face editing app on her iPhone to make my teeth look whiter as they looked a bit off, that edited version was then the photo that we sent to the family afterwards.I didn’t tell anyone the photo had been edited and I doubt they’d care if they knew

woman from Barnsley thinks her lived experience is comparable to the future Queens.

Kate did not muck around with a bit of photoshop and send it out to the world’s press.

There must be some thinking going on…..surely

Tandora · 11/03/2024 15:05

MagentaRocks · 11/03/2024 13:54

Agree too. Kate has been unwell, there is mass speculation so she put out a photo. Can’t seem to do anything right. People should just leave them alone. If there is some news then I am sure they will share it when they are ready.

A photo that’s apparently fake!

Deliadidit · 11/03/2024 15:07

But what is it that people think has happened, is happening with Kate? I obviously have a crap imagination. I just don’t get it 😄

Saschka · 11/03/2024 15:09

People have worked themselves up to believe Kate is seriously ill or dead. This photo was meant to prove she’s fine. Discovering it’s been edited, potentially to insert an old picture of her into a photo she wasn’t in originally, is obviously massive news. It has backfired ridiculously, to the point that it looks deliberate (what other bad news are they trying to deflect from).

I suspect she’s just ill and looks rough (she looked terrible in the car photo) and they edited together some old pictures to stop people harassing her. They would have been much better off saying nothing.

Uptospeed · 11/03/2024 15:12

If Catherine wishes to edit her photo what’s wrong with that?

Nothing particularly. But some people think something has happened to her and there’re trying to cover it up.

Changingplace · 11/03/2024 15:20

InBedBy10 · 11/03/2024 13:47

YANBU Every photo in the media and the large majority of photos on line are edited/photo-shopped in some way.

People are being hysterical about this. Some of the comments I've seen are ridiculous.... this is massive news.... this will expose the monarchy... this proves xyz... 🙄

People really need to get a grip.

Photos put forward as news sources aren’t edited - just because someone edits a photo they put on Instagram doesn’t mean that same photo will be published by a reputable media source , hence Reuters/PA etc killing the image.

Reputatationally to be a trusted news source they will have guidelines to follow to ensure what they publish is factual, that’s not the same as a celeb posting any old photoshopped image on their social media.

It’s important that news sources stick by their own guidelines especially these days when so many images can be altered so significantly. It’s about press integrity, especially when some areas of the press are much less trustworthy.

EverybodyLTB · 11/03/2024 15:21

People getting back to the hysteria now she’s been spotted in Windsor. That’s so obviously a desperate PR move as well, seeing as she’s somehow avoided the press up until now. Why anyone wants, or expects, anything from the royal family absolutely baffles me. They want privacy, they want to be public figures, as part of an institution that is built on obfuscation and entitlement. I really don’t know what the screeching mob expects or feels they deserve.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 11/03/2024 15:31

It was a photo that was so visibly altered that it fanned the flames of speculation, to the point some people now claim it's Catherine's head on another woman's body.

It was a very foolish decision on the part of the Palace, and they need to hire a better photographer, who can adequately use photo-editing software. And no, I don't believe it was Catherine, touching as it is to imagine that William and Catherine take and edit their photos. Far more likely that they've hired someone incompetent, who comes from the right social circle.

naturesform · 11/03/2024 15:36

beeonmybonnett · 11/03/2024 14:26

If Catherine wishes to edit her photo what’s wrong with that? I once got a photo taken with my family around the table at a family dinner, I got my DD to use a face editing app on her iPhone to make my teeth look whiter as they looked a bit off, that edited version was then the photo that we sent to the family afterwards.

I didn’t tell anyone the photo had been edited and I doubt they’d care if they knew

Are you seriously drawing a comparison here 😂

SonyaBoot · 11/03/2024 15:47

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tittybumbum · 11/03/2024 16:40

It is NEWS AGENCIES who have pulled the picture. Not tabloid press.

Most news organisations follow their own strict guidelines on the use of manipulated photographs, only using them when accompanied by an explanation that the image has been changed from the original.

News agencies, such as AP, therefore make a commitment to their clients that their photos are accurate and not digitally manipulated.

AP's rules only allow "minor adjustments" in certain circumstances, including cropping and toning and colour adjustments, as well as the removal of dust on camera sensors. It says changes in density, contrast, colour and saturation levels "that substantially alter the original scene" are not acceptable.

The pictures have to be accurate otherwise imagery of war, political events and other important world events could be manipulated to change the narrative.

Of course this is just a family picture but it has to fit the guidelines. There are no exceptions otherwise the rules are pointless

MikeRafone · 11/03/2024 16:43

It’s not the photograph itself but the politics surrounding it between the royal family and the press

This in part has been Prince Harry’s beef with the whole system and relationship between press and different fragments of RF

you take this story and keep quiet on this one, so then if your food to us we’ll scratch your back

SOBplus · 11/03/2024 16:49

They presented the photo as news and it was faked, therefore it is massively wrong. If it hadn't been presented to show Kate was doing well, then it wouldn't have been news related and therefore she could do whatever she wanted in faking it. It was the duality of the message that caused the issue. Kim Kardashian can do whatever she wants in presenting images as they aren't news, however, if her publisher showed a photo of her after a car accident to prove she was okay then the same rules would apply, no faking it as a news photo.

tittybumbum · 11/03/2024 16:55

For what it's worth I'm pretty sure she's had a face lift. That's about the only thing I can think of that leave you unable to be seen in public for 3 months. The swelling takes this long to be barely noticeable. The immediate swelling goes in 3-4 weeks but one looks puffy for a good few months.

They made such a massive song and dance about it being abdominal^^ surgery that my immediate thought was 'it's not abdominal surgery'

Not much else would keep her not just off work but completely invisible for this long.

That doctored picture was thrown together to make it look like she looked normal at Mother's Day which is after the surgery. It's scared herring. She'll come out after Easter looking fresher and they'll say she's fresh after having her long break.

The only other photos are:
A) in the car with sunglasses on being driven by carol. Kate looks bloated and not at all like her. Some people even questioned if it was her
B) today's car shot of them leaving Windsor where she is studiously looking the other way at a brick wall.
Contrast to other photos of her smiling out of the car.
Why would she not smile and wave. She's been hidden away. Normal people knowing the world is looking would smile and wave to reassure people. You can do that even if you feel shit. Yet here she is turning her head as far away as possible.

There is no reason she wouldn't show her face in a car. Smiling without sunglasses.

It's her face people. She's had work on her face.

Hadjab · 11/03/2024 17:04

beeonmybonnett · 11/03/2024 14:26

If Catherine wishes to edit her photo what’s wrong with that? I once got a photo taken with my family around the table at a family dinner, I got my DD to use a face editing app on her iPhone to make my teeth look whiter as they looked a bit off, that edited version was then the photo that we sent to the family afterwards.

I didn’t tell anyone the photo had been edited and I doubt they’d care if they knew

There's nothing wrong with editing a photo to make yourself look better in it, but this photo has been manipulated, not edited. Let's take a deeper dive into what some may consider an outlandish theory - that Kate's head has been pasted onto a seated body, which may or may not be hers. Assuming it is hers, why would they need to do that? Assuming it isn't hers, then why lie?

It's all to feed a narrative, well several in fact:

  1. that Kate is absolutely fine. Then why not issue a statement to that fact, rather than faking a photo?
  2. that the RF are as strong now as they were when QEll was alive. Well clearly they aren't as KC is ill, PoW is also 'ill' and Camilla has booked it, packed it and fucked off to sunnier climes
areyoutheregod · 11/03/2024 17:09

theres so many threads on this already... it was not edited, it was manipulated to a point that the agencies would not use it, they drew a line.

MoisturiseYourMoose · 11/03/2024 17:09

I couldn’t get it less. Truly. I’m baffled by the whole thing.

A bit of photoshop on a family photo is not even remotely similar to real misrepresentation in the media or inaccurate reporting in the news.

It’s a bloody portrait. Back in the day I’m sure royalty asked for a bit of flattering truth bending when someone painted them.

PuttingDownRoots · 11/03/2024 17:14

FFS. If something was seriously wrong with Kate or she had passed away would her children be in school?
After the mistakes handling Diana's death and the then children William and Harry?

Changingplace · 11/03/2024 17:21

tittybumbum · 11/03/2024 16:40

It is NEWS AGENCIES who have pulled the picture. Not tabloid press.

Most news organisations follow their own strict guidelines on the use of manipulated photographs, only using them when accompanied by an explanation that the image has been changed from the original.

News agencies, such as AP, therefore make a commitment to their clients that their photos are accurate and not digitally manipulated.

AP's rules only allow "minor adjustments" in certain circumstances, including cropping and toning and colour adjustments, as well as the removal of dust on camera sensors. It says changes in density, contrast, colour and saturation levels "that substantially alter the original scene" are not acceptable.

The pictures have to be accurate otherwise imagery of war, political events and other important world events could be manipulated to change the narrative.

Of course this is just a family picture but it has to fit the guidelines. There are no exceptions otherwise the rules are pointless

Completely agree, it’s actually quite worrying that so many people have such little concept of how press guidelines operate in order to maintain a level of accuracy and trust outside of the tabloid world.

In this day and age when images and videos can so easily be altered it’s more important than ever that respected news sources maintain their standards.

Causewerethespecialtwo · 11/03/2024 17:24

The press are furious that the RF won’t give details on what surgery Kate has had and why. They are hounding them and will cause a fuss over lots of nothing, lots of negative press, scare tactics, stoke ridiculous conspiracy theories etc, until the palace back down and give them the sordid details they want. Awful bullying.

RicePuddingWithCinnamon · 11/03/2024 17:27

A suspicious person might say that the fuss of the photo is to distract us from the COL crisis, babies being murdered in the war, the NHS dying etc

It’s me - I am the suspicious person.

clarepetal · 11/03/2024 17:27

InBedBy10 · 11/03/2024 13:47

YANBU Every photo in the media and the large majority of photos on line are edited/photo-shopped in some way.

People are being hysterical about this. Some of the comments I've seen are ridiculous.... this is massive news.... this will expose the monarchy... this proves xyz... 🙄

People really need to get a grip.

This.

Theunamedcat · 11/03/2024 17:30

If the news agencies were so concerned about phot9 shop why did they print the heavily edited pap shot of her in her car? The original one was grainy pixilated as hell suddenly this distorted and smooth photo is all over the place of course it looked nothing like her

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