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People who move from job to job but are never happy. What causes it?

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peashootsalad · 11/03/2024 13:12

I have had a friend for 2 years. During the time I’ve known her she has persistently changed jobs and I think has had at least 5 (I’ve lost count). The jobs have been in different fields but the issues she’s had are similar. She starts off happy for a few weeks, then starts to complain about how things are run, how incompetent everyone is, she’s the only one who’s any good etc. She gets quite obsessive about it and rants on about how awful it is to anyone who’ll listen. Anyone else know anyone like this? It intrigues me.

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taxguru · 12/03/2024 07:32

It also can be self perpetuating, because when you've worked in a few different places, you see what works and what doesn't etc., so when you move to a new employer, and see them doing things inefficiently, you do want to influence change for improvement, especially when the people in the new firm have never worked anywhere else so don't know how things are done (for the better) in other firms.

The job where I decided I wanted out within the first week was a small 2 partner firm where both partners had never worked anywhere else - both had left school and gone there (different times) and just stayed and eventually became managers and then took over as partners when the previous partners retired. Not only that, but lots of the staff had worked there for decades too and some had never worked anywhere else. Not only was it hard to look on as working practices were antiquated, they didn't even have computers (this was in the 90s!), still using typewriters and carbon copy paper, etc., it was all one big "clique" with the staff all knowing each other very well, making me feel like an outsider, lots of "private" jokes between them etc. I half expected to find a Bob Cratchit lookalike in the basement writing ledgers with a quill pen! I knew I'd never be able to change anything and that I'd end up stagnant like them, so for my own sanity started to apply elsewhere so at least I had something to look forward to whilst I bided my time there, and how right I was as it didn't get any better in the few months it took me to escape!

Quethemusic · 12/03/2024 07:37

Yep, was going to say ADHD too. I get bored easily and need constant stimulation. I'm self employed now and get to work with several different teams on different sites which keeps things interesting for me. I actually left my last paid job because I just couldn't tolerate certain colleagues going on and on and on about their kids/partners all day long. Who pooped/woke/ate when. Every.single.day.
I don't do well with small talk at the best of times but It drove me insane.

Icedoatlattelove · 12/03/2024 07:40

I've recently been diagnosed with with adhd. Although this isn't really my experience I have been told this is common in people with adhd.

Teateaandmoretea · 12/03/2024 07:57

It probably needs pointing out to her that most people don’t love work. They do it for the money.

Freckles81 · 12/03/2024 09:34

Mumkins42 · 11/03/2024 21:35

I don't think there is anything wrong with people having issues conforming to the mundane work structure. Some corporate sectors are truly miserable and I can't comprehend how everyone isn't up in arms about the way we live tbh.

Don't feel guilty or ashamed, maybe you just haven't found a sector that you can feel passionate about yet. I grew up in an army family and could never imagine staying in the same job more than 3 - 4 years. Quite telling.

I think an Army upbringing and the frequent relocations from country to country definitely programme you in a different way to say someone who has grown up in the same house for the first 21 years of their lives. My friends (uni and beyond) loved holidays but I have frequently packed cases and upped and left to live abroad, without looking back. Being back in the UK and 'settled' is really boring for me, much to my partner's bemusement.

I am forever throwing things away and 'decluttering', and also think this is a behaviour borne from needing to choose which of my toys and clothes to take with us as a kid! When you move that much, you just find it easy to let go of things, people, places....jobs.

I would actually love to know if more of us 'army brats' were the same!

Freckles81 · 12/03/2024 09:36

misssunshine4040 · 11/03/2024 19:48

@Freckles81 we had the same childhood and I too job hop and struggle to stay in one home and one job.

I am learning slowly that it pays off to just stick and tough it out. I don't have roots or a "home town " but I feel I'm getting there and I'm currently in a role I've been in for a long time now and I like it.

I am always on indeed looking for more though.....

Interesting; we army kids seem to struggle with staying put.
I like that you ahve pushed through and found it better to stick it out.
I need to do this!

Freckles81 · 12/03/2024 09:41

ArsMamatoria · 11/03/2024 20:06

@Freckles81 I couldn't cope as a teacher either, and have tried out several different, unrelated jobs - and that's without having experienced what you have in the way of adverse experiences. I do have ADHD (symptoms of trauma can align with symptoms of ADHD).

I hope you do manage to find the right kind of support. I just want to send you a huge, virtual hug and say you have nothing, NOTHING to be ashamed of. X

Thank you for your lovely reply x

Teaching is not for the feint hearted, that's for sure! I hope you find something in which you can thrive and that treats you better than teaching (which has always felt like an abusive relationship to me. The highs are amazing but my god the lows are so bad).

Am considering retraining as a Social worker or finding a completely different field in which I can be self employed. One day something will stick I hope!

Big hug back at ya x

phoenixrosehere · 12/03/2024 09:56

I change jobs and/or start seeking a new one once I’ve learned everything, do it well, and there is no other progression. My favourite jobs were the ones where there was spontaneity and I wasn’t just sat somewhere or standing for hours doing the same thing every work day.

However, I have also left jobs due to poor/bad managers and wasn’t going to continue to be treated poorly even more so when I was surpassing targets and doing well.

Startingagainandagain · 12/03/2024 10:11

''@phoenixrosehere

However, I have also left jobs due to poor/bad managers and wasn’t going to continue to be treated poorly even more so when I was surpassing targets and doing well.''

Exactly. I always perform well, do a good job and do more than my official JD to help the organisation.

In return I always get taken for granted because I work part-time and I have a disability.

Without fail my last employers have all tried to remove agreed flexible arrangements (home working) although this was the one and only perk of the job and it allows me to stay in work as a disabled person...so I have to find something else.

Employers also need to have a good look as to why employees leave after a year or two in the job.

Being part time or/and disabled often means you are treated less favourably that the rest of the staff and almost forced out.

Orangeandgold · 12/03/2024 13:49

It’s definitely internal.

could be boredom. Could be negative self talk. Could be talking themselves out of things. Could be not seeing opportunities. Could be having a big vision to do something else but the job won’t allow it. Could be not knowing themselves enough to know where they fit in but if you keep moving around I don’t know how the skill sets develop.

I had a friend like this and it ended up being ADHD. I do not think this is limited to that though. It can have a lot to do with personality and work ethic too.

AdultFemaleWoman · 12/03/2024 17:36

You always leave bad management not bad jobs. I'm leaving mine soon as one person is making everyones life worse.
I've made sure the next one in will be as argumentative as the one I'm leaving. There will be fireworks but it's their own doing

TesticularHeft · 12/03/2024 20:17

I had two jobs in just under 4 years and I hated parts of both of them. I wasn't at my best as I'd been made redundant from the place I thought I'd work forever and it broke me a little. After hating the second place I started to wonder if I was the problem and I thought long and hard about it. I now have another job (so technically 3 in 4 years) but this one is amazing. The company is great and I'm not planning my retirement at 42.

Sometimes you're the arsehole but actually, a lot of work places take advantage, grind you down and treat you like absolute shit while promoting incompetence and we shouldn't be putting up with it because there are so many other opportunities out there. If we need to hop a bit, we should.

I'm not sure what the correct rate is tho... if this place wasn't amazing I'd definitely be thinking it was me.

trekking1 · 14/03/2024 17:04

taxguru · 12/03/2024 07:13

That was me. I'm a perfectionist and simply can't tolerate incompetence, poor systems, etc. Probably due to being ND. I always started a new job full of enthusiasm, puts lots of time/effort in, way above the requirements, and the became disillusioned and frustrated being "trapped" by the surroundings as I'd want to change things, do things in a more efficient way, get ever more annoyed by colleagues who would be slow or make mistakes, etc. I usually stayed 1 to 2 years, but often would be looking for new jobs after a few months, in fact the "worst" was when I started looking for a new job within the first week! Despite all that, I never had a day of unemployment, not even after leaving school, as I left on a Friday and started work on the Monday. Even when I've had enough and start looking for new jobs, I always stayed there, doing the job to an acceptable standard (although I'd stop going the extra mile and just "cruise" like the other staff). Even in jobs I was generally happy with, I'd be forever changing things like moving desks - I just couldn't settle! When you spend 35-40 hours of the week in one place doing the job, I think you need it to be "right" for you - maybe part time working isn't as bad??

My "cure" was going self employed and starting my own business, which I did 25 years ago. I chose my own office to rent, bought all my own equipment, chose my own client base, set up my own systems, etc., and it's been ultra efficient, and in those 25 years I've changed very little - my desk is in exactly the same place with the same view! I have software that I choose myself so works for me, along with a self-built database as none of the off the shelf databases did what I wanted, so I taught myself and wrote my own. It's so liberating not to be told what to do by bosses (often incompetent) or having to work alongside people who don't pull their weight or be constrained and struggling with dysfunctional software or unreliable equipment. I'm 60 now, but would happily carry on working for another 10/20 years, just as long as my physical and mental health enable it, as my working environment is perfect for me and I no longer have that same urge for change that I suffered when working for others.

I do think that those who are ND can really struggle with people and systems who they think aren't efficient/competent/reliable - they're just not programmed to "sit back and think of England" when it comes to the workplace and put up with it and take the money.

You are life goals! I really want to start my own business but I don't know how or what

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