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To tell her he probably only wants sex

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Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:09

My friends been on 5 dates with a guy, they went for dinner every time. He paid 3 times. She’s paid the last two. Anyway, her first issue was, she said she really likes him. He insists he’s enjoyed it enjoying getting to know her. He talks about the fact that a connection with another person is important and that he’s really enjoying dating her and loves they have a great chat and “loves getting to know her” but then he’s said stuff to her like “you do have a fantastic bum” obvs they kissed and apparently he was grabbing a feel. He said “I think there’s a lot of sexual chemistry between us” she said “look I’m not after just sex. I need an emotional connection first” he then said “I completely agree I need to be able to emotionally connect first before I had sex. And when I say that I mean it should happen in its own time naturally. Whether that’s date 10/20 or more” Then he said stuff to her later “of course it would be great to know you in other ways too” she said “I’m in no rush” he said “I’d never push for it. It’s just whenever it feels natural I’m still having a lovely time getting to know you first when we go on dates” etc etc.

she keeps asking me if all he wants is sex and I said I have no idea. The only way she would know is if she ever does get intimate with her. I asked what she talks about on dates. She said it’s not sex it’s work and values etc.

It’s tricky for me to say really? Like should they really even bring up sex at this point. I said he may just be trying to get into your knickers. And he’s not being that subtle about it either.

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PossumintheHouse · 10/03/2024 13:13

They’ve been on five dates, he fancies her and wants to have sex, it’s not exactly a surprise, is it?
She’s said not yet, he’s accepted that, and it sounds like they both want to keep dating. What’s the issue here?

Cazpar · 10/03/2024 13:14

Why have you started multiple threads on this?

Mummame222 · 10/03/2024 13:16

how invested you are in this is a bit weird.

it doesn’t sound like all he wants is sex. They are going on dates because they fancy each other and he’s let that be known.

not sure what the issue is.

GRex · 10/03/2024 13:16

I think some people don't much like sex, so get a bit funny about others wanting sex. It's actually really normal for people dating to be attracted to each other and want sex; if they don't then they actually shouldn't be dating! Fine for her to wait, but him fancying her doesn't mean that's all that he wants and it really isn't your place to say so when you know nothing about him nor their dates.

GalileoHumpkins · 10/03/2024 13:19

Why would you date someone you don't want to have sex with, that would just be a waste of time.
Wind your neck in about his intentions when you have no idea what you're talking about.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/03/2024 13:19

If I had been on 5 dates with someone and really fancied them, I would want to sleep with them to but happy to wait if they are not comfortable.

If two people are sexually incompatible, it's difficult to fix so I would prefer not to waste time.

I don't see it as me using men for sex. They are willing participants.

You also seem far too invested in her choices.

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:21

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/03/2024 13:19

If I had been on 5 dates with someone and really fancied them, I would want to sleep with them to but happy to wait if they are not comfortable.

If two people are sexually incompatible, it's difficult to fix so I would prefer not to waste time.

I don't see it as me using men for sex. They are willing participants.

You also seem far too invested in her choices.

I’m just protective of her. Her ex cheated on her and threw everything back in her face. She turned around to this guy and said “maybe one day you might have the privilege of having sec with me but it’ll take a bit more time it’s not that easy”

i think she’s scared of being hurt and comes to me to cry and I’m scared of offering her bad advice

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GRex · 10/03/2024 13:24

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:21

I’m just protective of her. Her ex cheated on her and threw everything back in her face. She turned around to this guy and said “maybe one day you might have the privilege of having sec with me but it’ll take a bit more time it’s not that easy”

i think she’s scared of being hurt and comes to me to cry and I’m scared of offering her bad advice

Is the man she's dating her ex? No. So stop getting over-involved, it really is not your business.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/03/2024 13:25

You can't control this.

He might be a good guy. He might be an asshole.

He might end things after sex. He may not.

I don't think anyone should ever think sleeping with some is a guarantee of anything.

If anything, the longer she puts it off, the bigger a deal it becomes and the more devastated she'll end up if it doesn't work out.

Dating, with the assumption every time, that this is the last man you'll ever date is a recipe for disaster.

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:27

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/03/2024 13:25

You can't control this.

He might be a good guy. He might be an asshole.

He might end things after sex. He may not.

I don't think anyone should ever think sleeping with some is a guarantee of anything.

If anything, the longer she puts it off, the bigger a deal it becomes and the more devastated she'll end up if it doesn't work out.

Dating, with the assumption every time, that this is the last man you'll ever date is a recipe for disaster.

Agreed. But she doesn’t have to offer it up on his terms does she. She can just do it when she’s good and ready surely?

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Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:27

GRex · 10/03/2024 13:24

Is the man she's dating her ex? No. So stop getting over-involved, it really is not your business.

No nooo not her ex.

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anareen · 10/03/2024 13:30

5 dates and he is already pushing a boundary she has expressed? No no.

Saymyname28 · 10/03/2024 13:32

Its perfectly normal for someone to be attracted to someone and thinking about having sex with someone that they're actively dating. Sex is a pretty important part of an adult relationship.

poetryandwine · 10/03/2024 13:33

I think you are scared of offering advice for good reason.

It sounds as if he likes her, possibly a lot considering they’ve had only five dates. Wanting to have sex but being patient about it makes him sound nice, insofar as we can judge - and that isn’t very far.

Good men aren’t ‘a dime a dozen’ as Americans say. Your friend will need to look back on this time and feel that she made the right decision. If you offer advice and she gets it wrong she is likely to blame you.

Perhaps suggest counselling?

Saymyname28 · 10/03/2024 13:35

She turned around to this guy and said “maybe one day you might have the privilege of having sec with me but it’ll take a bit more time it’s not that easy”

I really don't think that's a healthy mindset and I'd be quite insulted in his shoes. Sex is not a gift she's giving him, it's not something he has to earn, it's not something he is trying to take from her. Sex is something normal, healthy, couples do together for mutual pleasure and I'd have zero interest in a relationship with someone who thought I needed to earn that.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/03/2024 13:35

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:27

Agreed. But she doesn’t have to offer it up on his terms does she. She can just do it when she’s good and ready surely?

That's not way I said at all.

She can and should do everything exactly as she chooses.

My point is there's no guarantee how it will work out either way.

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:37

Saymyname28 · 10/03/2024 13:35

She turned around to this guy and said “maybe one day you might have the privilege of having sec with me but it’ll take a bit more time it’s not that easy”

I really don't think that's a healthy mindset and I'd be quite insulted in his shoes. Sex is not a gift she's giving him, it's not something he has to earn, it's not something he is trying to take from her. Sex is something normal, healthy, couples do together for mutual pleasure and I'd have zero interest in a relationship with someone who thought I needed to earn that.

She said it jokingly. I don’t think she means it in a bad way. She said it because she shut the convo down the night before. Then he raised it again the day after. She obvs wants to have sex with him too but isn’t ready to rush it at all.

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DanielGault · 10/03/2024 13:38

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:21

I’m just protective of her. Her ex cheated on her and threw everything back in her face. She turned around to this guy and said “maybe one day you might have the privilege of having sec with me but it’ll take a bit more time it’s not that easy”

i think she’s scared of being hurt and comes to me to cry and I’m scared of offering her bad advice

I know you mean well, but she's not a kid and you're not her mother. She needs to make her own mistakes and learn from them. FWIW I don't think he sounds off.

Helfs · 10/03/2024 13:40

Why are you questioning if they should even be talking about sex?

They've been on 5 dates and are, I assume, adults?

This is some Mary Whitehouse weirdness

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:43

Helfs · 10/03/2024 13:40

Why are you questioning if they should even be talking about sex?

They've been on 5 dates and are, I assume, adults?

This is some Mary Whitehouse weirdness

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Not questioning it😂she keeps coming to me and asking “do you think this is just for sex” and I’m like. “I have no idea I don’t know the guy. Give me some idea of what he’s like” this is what she gave me.

Also, it’s fine to want to have sex. But I think there’s a fine line between that and pushing it constantly.

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/03/2024 13:45

I think this whole thread is a little off.

Personally, I think if an adult needs so much advice on whether or not they should have sex or not, then they aren't actually mature enough to have sex.

It's a personal devision that should never need outside influence.

GalileoHumpkins · 10/03/2024 13:45

If he really is pushing it constantly and she doesn't like it then she should release him back into the wild. Why is she continuing to see someone who makes her uncomfortable?

Helfs · 10/03/2024 13:45

Lilllypad11 · 10/03/2024 13:43

Not questioning it😂she keeps coming to me and asking “do you think this is just for sex” and I’m like. “I have no idea I don’t know the guy. Give me some idea of what he’s like” this is what she gave me.

Also, it’s fine to want to have sex. But I think there’s a fine line between that and pushing it constantly.

You did question it

’like should they even be bringing up sex’

PieAndLattes · 10/03/2024 13:46

They’re getting along well. He fancies her and he’s flirting with her. That’s completely normal in any new relationship. If she fancies him then there’s no reason they shouldn’t have sex if they both want to. It’s better to find out fairly quickly whether they’re sexually compatible rather than have some long drawn out courtship only to find he can only get in the mood if she’s dressed in an avocado onesie or some such nonsense.

jellyfishbubbles · 10/03/2024 13:47

Is this really about your friend or is it you? Are you the "friend"?

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